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Anonymous wrote:Was the A team playing in the tournament? If not, then I don't see how it would be illegal, and I don't see why it would be bad sportsmanship to add one kid to the roster. Tournaments are a great time to experiment with different formations and lineups, and the spring is when clubs start making assessments about which kids should be moved up or down. If one of the B team players had to sit the whole tournament or lost significant playing time due to the guest player, that's uncool though.

Did you even read the thread?
One of the best players from the A team...this obviously wasn't about assessments, it was about winning.
And obviously, if there's an A team player playing all game, it means at least one B teamer lost out.

What?!?!? Playing a tournament to win?!?!?!?! That is crazy!

Well maybe someone with some knowledge about the rating system can chime in. I think it help the clubs over all rating. The more winning teams up and down the age group the higher the rating for the club?

There is no "club rating". There are however "GotSoccer points" but those are tied to the actual team and not the club based on tournament performance. These points are intended to be used for Tournament seeding purposes in order to have competitive and balanced brackets. The higher the poitns, the higher the rank the better the bracket for a tournament.

Ultimately there is no real advantage to chasing the points for "B" teams as at a certain point they will still never be placed in the same bracket as their A team counterpart.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was the A team playing in the tournament? If not, then I don't see how it would be illegal, and I don't see why it would be bad sportsmanship to add one kid to the roster. Tournaments are a great time to experiment with different formations and lineups, and the spring is when clubs start making assessments about which kids should be moved up or down. If one of the B team players had to sit the whole tournament or lost significant playing time due to the guest player, that's uncool though.

Did you even read the thread?
One of the best players from the A team...this obviously wasn't about assessments, it was about winning.
And obviously, if there's an A team player playing all game, it means at least one B teamer lost out.

What?!?!? Playing a tournament to win?!?!?!?! That is crazy!

Well maybe someone with some knowledge about the rating system can chime in. I think it help the clubs over all rating. The more winning teams up and down the age group the higher the rating for the club?

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Anonymous wrote:Was the A team playing in the tournament? If not, then I don't see how it would be illegal, and I don't see why it would be bad sportsmanship to add one kid to the roster. Tournaments are a great time to experiment with different formations and lineups, and the spring is when clubs start making assessments about which kids should be moved up or down. If one of the B team players had to sit the whole tournament or lost significant playing time due to the guest player, that's uncool though.

Did you even read the thread?
One of the best players from the A team...this obviously wasn't about assessments, it was about winning.
And obviously, if there's an A team player playing all game, it means at least one B teamer lost out.

What?!?!? Playing a tournament to win?!?!?!?! That is crazy!

Anonymous wrote:Was the A team playing in the tournament? If not, then I don't see how it would be illegal, and I don't see why it would be bad sportsmanship to add one kid to the roster. Tournaments are a great time to experiment with different formations and lineups, and the spring is when clubs start making assessments about which kids should be moved up or down. If one of the B team players had to sit the whole tournament or lost significant playing time due to the guest player, that's uncool though.

Did you even read the thread?
One of the best players from the A team...this obviously wasn't about assessments, it was about winning.
And obviously, if there's an A team player playing all game, it means at least one B teamer lost out.

Was the A team playing in the tournament? If not, then I don't see how it would be illegal, and I don't see why it would be bad sportsmanship to add one kid to the roster. Tournaments are a great time to experiment with different formations and lineups, and the spring is when clubs start making assessments about which kids should be moved up or down. If one of the B team players had to sit the whole tournament or lost significant playing time due to the guest player, that's uncool though.

Anonymous wrote:Our A players always play on our B team. They are in 2 different leagues specifically so they can do this. The girls will play 2 games in a day just to do this. The club cares about winning... not developing the B players with more time. Soemtimes the B players sit while the A players will play the whole game. it's terrible.

That is terrible. Wonder why the parents put up with that or sign up for that

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Anonymous wrote:Some tournaments - Discovery Cup, for example - don't allow a player to guest play for another team if the team to which s/he is officially rostered is playing in that tournament. So if both the A and B team are playing in a tournament, an A team player can't guest for the B team (or vice versa). I've never seen a rule that explicitly prohibits a "higher" team player from guest playing for a "lower" team. There are almost always rules that limit the number of guest players to 3-5 which I suppose helps prevent the scenario where all or most of a team is displaced by ringers.

Sometimes a sub/bench player from a top team will guest play with the second team to give them more minutes and a leadership role.

I've never heard of a club guest-playing their best player to help a second team win

. That seems like poor sportsmanship IMO, but probably not "illegal." I think the second team player who gets displaced by this guest player is the one who should be most pissed off.

I guess you've never played FCV. There top players always play on the 2nd team to help them win. I heard they were disqualified from a tournament last year for it.

A team players can play on the B team in tournaments. Only one thing would prevent this:
1. Actually being dual rostered within the tournament when both teams are in the same tournament.

Anonymous wrote:Some tournaments - Discovery Cup, for example - don't allow a player to guest play for another team if the team to which s/he is officially rostered is playing in that tournament. So if both the A and B team are playing in a tournament, an A team player can't guest for the B team (or vice versa). I've never seen a rule that explicitly prohibits a "higher" team player from guest playing for a "lower" team. There are almost always rules that limit the number of guest players to 3-5 which I suppose helps prevent the scenario where all or most of a team is displaced by ringers.

Sometimes a sub/bench player from a top team will guest play with the second team to give them more minutes and a leadership role.

I've never heard of a club guest-playing their best player to help a second team win

. That seems like poor sportsmanship IMO, but probably not "illegal." I think the second team player who gets displaced by this guest player is the one who should be most pissed off.

I guess you've never played FCV. There top players always play on the 2nd team to help them win. I heard they were disqualified from a tournament last year for it.

Our A players always play on our B team. They are in 2 different leagues specifically so they can do this. The girls will play 2 games in a day just to do this. The club cares about winning... not developing the B players with more time. Soemtimes the B players sit while the A players will play the whole game. it's terrible.

Sometimes an A-team player will guest with the B-team if the B-team is lacking at a certain position and the coach is looking for that A-team player to solidify things. Example, bringing a center mid or a center back to help keep things under control. If they're guesting an A-team goal-scorer, then they likely are trying to ensure some goals and wins for the tournament (if the goal-scorer doesn't choke).

Anonymous wrote:Frankly I don't think it is a big deal at all. I believe it is only because the second team is lack of player. If they really want to "cheat" and win, why not invite more first team players?

We didn't want to make it too obvious about what we were doing

Some tournaments - Discovery Cup, for example - don't allow a player to guest play for another team if the team to which s/he is officially rostered is playing in that tournament. So if both the A and B team are playing in a tournament, an A team player can't guest for the B team (or vice versa). I've never seen a rule that explicitly prohibits a "higher" team player from guest playing for a "lower" team. There are almost always rules that limit the number of guest players to 3-5 which I suppose helps prevent the scenario where all or most of a team is displaced by ringers.

Sometimes a sub/bench player from a top team will guest play with the second team to give them more minutes and a leadership role. I've never heard of a club guest-playing their best player to help a second team win. That seems like poor sportsmanship IMO, but probably not "illegal." I think the second team player who gets displaced by this guest player is the one who should be most pissed off.

Anonymous wrote:Frankly I don't think it is a big deal at all. I believe it is only because the second team is lack of player. If they really want to "cheat" and win, why not invite more first team players?

OP back.
The team was one player down from a full roster.

Frankly I don't think it is a big deal at all. I believe it is only because the second team is lack of player. If they really want to "cheat" and win, why not invite more first team players?

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Anonymous wrote:As a parent, I’d be more pissed that a guest player is playing on my kids team. it disrupts team chemistry and is kind of lame that a coach feels the need to do that.

If they were short players and invited him/her--okay. But, the it is usually rewarding a player from the lower team to play up that weekend. It's fairly shitty to have the star player, play down and it really sends a bad message for the kids on the lower team.

So you think the kids on the lower team were upset because they won the championship?