Anonymous wrote:ATS has 542 students. McK has 757. At least according to APS, ATS has 4 trailers, McK has 8. It's more than bursting at the seams and lost its field too, after years of construction. And didn't gain an extra music or art or gifted teacher to account for the extra enrollment. Those are facts too.

Anonymous wrote:ATS has a huge lot with room for trailers. You should be asking for renovations to accommodate more kids in gym and lunch.

Looks like Campbell is going to be screwed with more trailers RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PLAY YARD. So much for sports at that school. At least ATS will still have a decent play space to run around without running into a building.

Anonymous wrote:Excellent report in the Arlington Connection about overcrowding at Arlington Traditional School (ATS). For 2018 they are projected to have utliization at 121% of capacity.

121%! For ATS!!! And yet the School Board wants to go from four relocatables on the ATS lot to twelve. Even though the whole point of the traditional education model is that you don't have ANY relocatables on the lot .

People cry about McKinley's victimhood, but they're only at 113%. Henry is at 150%. Science Focus is at 128%, with Claremont at 130%.

People have overstated how McKinley has been harmed while schools like Nottingham and Discovery benefited. Well, Nottingham and Discovery are bursting at the seams. As is Tuckahoe. Even Jamestown, which schools kids who live in the most expensive real estate in the County, winds up OVER capacity.

I'm glad the Connection has inserted actual facts into this debate

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Anonymous wrote:Excellent report in the Arlington Connection about overcrowding at Arlington Traditional School (ATS). For 2018 they are projected to have utliization at 121% of capacity.

121%! For ATS!!! And yet the School Board wants to go from four relocatables on the ATS lot to twelve. Even though the whole point of the traditional education model is that you don't have ANY relocatables on the lot .

People cry about McKinley's victimhood, but they're only at 113%. Henry is at 150%. Science Focus is at 128%, with Claremont at 130%.

People have overstated how McKinley has been harmed while schools like Nottingham and Discovery benefited. Well, Nottingham and Discovery are bursting at the seams. As is Tuckahoe. Even Jamestown, which schools kids who live in the most expensive real estate in the County, winds up OVER capacity.

I'm glad the Connection has inserted actual facts into this debate

ATS is a choice school . You don't have to choose it.

Exactly. And the neighborhood schools have been able to work being much more overcrowded. If the ATS program doesn't unless it is at some perfect capacity, it should cease to exist. We don't have the luxury in the current and future growth environment.

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Anonymous wrote:Excellent report in the Arlington Connection about overcrowding at Arlington Traditional School (ATS). For 2018 they are projected to have utliization at 121% of capacity.

121%! For ATS!!! And yet the School Board wants to go from four relocatables on the ATS lot to twelve. Even though the whole point of the traditional education model is that you don't have ANY relocatables on the lot .

People cry about McKinley's victimhood, but they're only at 113%. Henry is at 150%. Science Focus is at 128%, with Claremont at 130%.

People have overstated how McKinley has been harmed while schools like Nottingham and Discovery benefited. Well, Nottingham and Discovery are bursting at the seams. As is Tuckahoe. Even Jamestown, which schools kids who live in the most expensive real estate in the County, winds up OVER capacity.

I'm glad the Connection has inserted actual facts into this debate

ATS is a choice school . You don't have to choose it.

Anonymous wrote:Excellent report in the Arlington Connection about overcrowding at Arlington Traditional School (ATS). For 2018 they are projected to have utliization at 121% of capacity.

121%! For ATS!!! And yet the School Board wants to go from four relocatables on the ATS lot to twelve. Even though the whole point of the traditional education model is that you don't have ANY relocatables on the lot .

People cry about McKinley's victimhood, but they're only at 113%. Henry is at 150%. Science Focus is at 128%, with Claremont at 130%.

People have overstated how McKinley has been harmed while schools like Nottingham and Discovery benefited. Well, Nottingham and Discovery are bursting at the seams. As is Tuckahoe. Even Jamestown, which schools kids who live in the most expensive real estate in the County, winds up OVER capacity.

I'm glad the Connection has inserted actual facts into this debate

Anonymous wrote:Every school in the county is fighting being overcrowded. Why should ATS be any different? Much of the criticism of ATS comes off as sour grapes. "Oh, poor us. My kid didn't get into ATS so now we're going to trash the program at every opportunity."

Renovations were on the table at one point, and the school accepted the idea. And then APS didn't have the money, so they pulled the proposal to renovate.

If the program moves, it moves. But the community is coming out against being moved way over into a far corner of the county because it would adversely affect the kids from other parts of the county. For example, moving to Tuckahoe would really disadvantage the South Arlington kids whose parents can't get there easily.

My original point was that all the schools are not the same size, so they don't all have the same capacity. Adding trailers to a school does not necessarily add capacity. Anyone who fails to understand that might need a refresher course on math.

Anonymous wrote:Every school in the county is fighting being overcrowded. Why should ATS be any different? Much of the criticism of ATS comes off as sour grapes. "Oh, poor us. My kid didn't get into ATS so now we're going to trash the program at every opportunity."

Renovations were on the table at one point, and the school accepted the idea. And then APS didn't have the money, so they pulled the proposal to renovate.

If the program moves, it moves. But the community is coming out against being moved way over into a far corner of the county because it would adversely affect the kids from other parts of the county. For example, moving to Tuckahoe would really disadvantage the South Arlington kids whose parents can't get there easily.

My original point was that all the schools are not the same size, so they don't all have the same capacity. Adding trailers to a school does not necessarily add capacity. Anyone who fails to understand that might need a refresher course on math.

Anonymous wrote:Adding trailers to a school does not necessarily add capacity. Anyone who fails to understand that might need a refresher course on math.

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Anonymous wrote:ATS parent here.

And part of the reason McKinley is overcrowded is because planning units asked to stay there instead of being moved to less crowded schools up North.

Sorry ATS parent-- this is wrong too. Facts aren't really an ATS thing, I guess. There were two Tuckahoe planning units that wanted to move together in 2014. They were both originally scheduled to move to Nottingham. Nottingham said they didn't have room for both and lobbied the School Board to move one to McKinley instead. No planning units were ever scheduled to move from McKinley to schools further north in 2014.

I even thought they asked to go back to Tuckahoe and were told "no." ATS needs to realize it sounds like a bunch of entitled spoiled brats. And ones that are paying no attention to the bigger picture statements coming from APS. Option programs are growing. Period. Either ATS does that where it is (which of course they don't want) or they move to a bigger building (which they also don't want).

Anonymous wrote:ATS has a huge lot with room for trailers. You should be asking for renovations to accommodate more kids in gym and lunch.

Looks like Campbell is going to be screwed with more trailers RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PLAY YARD. So much for sports at that school. At least ATS will still have a decent play space to run around without running into a building.

Anonymous wrote:ATS has 542 students. McK has 757. At least according to APS, ATS has 4 trailers, McK has 8. It's more than bursting at the seams and lost its field too, after years of construction. And didn't gain an extra music or art or gifted teacher to account for the extra enrollment. Those are facts too.

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Anonymous wrote:Excellent report in the Arlington Connection about overcrowding at Arlington Traditional School (ATS). For 2018 they are projected to have utliization at 121% of capacity.

121%! For ATS!!! And yet the School Board wants to go from four relocatables on the ATS lot to twelve. Even though the whole point of the traditional education model is that you don't have ANY relocatables on the lot .

People cry about McKinley's victimhood, but they're only at 113%. Henry is at 150%. Science Focus is at 128%, with Claremont at 130%.

People have overstated how McKinley has been harmed while schools like Nottingham and Discovery benefited. Well, Nottingham and Discovery are bursting at the seams. As is Tuckahoe. Even Jamestown, which schools kids who live in the most expensive real estate in the County, winds up OVER capacity.

I'm glad the Connection has inserted actual facts into this debate

Funny you call it a "report." It was clearly written by ATS parents. Good try to make it seem like real journalism.