Anonymous
Post 03/14/2018 10:55     Subject: Re:My child got detention for walking out
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is it a one day detention? Just let the kid serve it proudly. Get home work done. Like you said, civil disobedience has consequences and that is okay. Your kid did the right thing and he or she knows that.


Yeah, I'm torn between the lessons. On the one hand, yeah, civil disobedience has consequences. On the other hand, I genuinely don't recognize the authority of the school to detain my child for this. Maybe not a hill worth dying on.


Why don't you recognize their authority? Because she walked out for a good reason that you agreed with? What if she had walked out for a reason you didn't agree with, or started protesting daily or something?

I would think she'd serve this detention as a badge of honor, and you ought to help her see it that way. If you ALSO want to send a strongly-worded statement to the administration expressing your disappointment and anget that they didn't accommodate the walkout or offer an alternative, that's a good plan, too.


What's the point of an "accomodated" walkout? It makes as much sense as a sit-in when you're invited to the dinner.


The point is facilitating the students' civic involvement, which some schools are doing. The stated reason for the walkout is to commemorate the Parkland victims and other victims of school shootings. In that narrow reading of the point of the walkout, it would be fine for schools to accommodate it, or to say they won't punish kids for it.

Kids are being asked to do this regardless, but there's no rule that says some schools can't also buck the system as a whole.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2018 10:54     Subject: My child got detention for walking out
She should do the detention. Civil disobedience is "disobedience" after all -- it means that you might face consequences. If you think those consequences are discriminatory/in retaliation for the content of her message, then go to your ACLU chapter.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2018 10:54     Subject: Re:My child got detention for walking out
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is it a one day detention? Just let the kid serve it proudly. Get home work done. Like you said, civil disobedience has consequences and that is okay. Your kid did the right thing and he or she knows that.


Yeah, I'm torn between the lessons. On the one hand, yeah, civil disobedience has consequences. On the other hand, I genuinely don't recognize the authority of the school to detain my child for this. Maybe not a hill worth dying on.


Why don't you recognize their authority? Because she walked out for a good reason that you agreed with? What if she had walked out for a reason you didn't agree with, or started protesting daily or something?

I would think she'd serve this detention as a badge of honor, and you ought to help her see it that way. If you ALSO want to send a strongly-worded statement to the administration expressing your disappointment and anget that they didn't accommodate the walkout or offer an alternative, that's a good plan, too.


What's the point of an "accomodated" walkout? It makes as much sense as a sit-in when you're invited to the dinner.


I am struggling with this, too. PP here. Also, I wanted the message that the children are sending to be made to the NRA, not the teachers. The teachers did nothing wrong, and should not be punished by having to wrangle children all day today. If the children were at the Capitol, that would be effective.


That would actually require some level of effort. People who "protest" today aren't interested in doing much more than changing their Facebook status, or taking a short break from school as long as there are no adverse consequences.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2018 10:54     Subject: My child got detention for walking out
Anonymous wrote:Cobb County, GA is giving students a 5 day suspension for a 17-minute walkout that doesn't leave school grounds.

That, I'd protest, but I'd also be proud of my kid for making a sacrifice to do what's right.


C'mon. No surprise here.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2018 10:53     Subject: Re:My child got detention for walking out
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Would you prefer the school give you the option of a one-day out-of-school suspension so it's not an "unlawful detainment"? Or are you just looking to get your kid out of any consequences? Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the schools that are giving kids a pass on this, but part of this kind of civic action is learning and weighing the consequences, so I think your child has been given a very valuable lesson here.


Who should determine the correct political issues for which schools give children a pass?


Any issue that involves children getting murdered at school should be allowed a "pass".
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2018 10:53     Subject: Re:My child got detention for walking out
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is it a one day detention? Just let the kid serve it proudly. Get home work done. Like you said, civil disobedience has consequences and that is okay. Your kid did the right thing and he or she knows that.


Yeah, I'm torn between the lessons. On the one hand, yeah, civil disobedience has consequences. On the other hand, I genuinely don't recognize the authority of the school to detain my child for this. Maybe not a hill worth dying on.


Why don't you recognize their authority? Because she walked out for a good reason that you agreed with? What if she had walked out for a reason you didn't agree with, or started protesting daily or something?

I would think she'd serve this detention as a badge of honor, and you ought to help her see it that way. If you ALSO want to send a strongly-worded statement to the administration expressing your disappointment and anget that they didn't accommodate the walkout or offer an alternative, that's a good plan, too.


What's the point of an "accomodated" walkout? It makes as much sense as a sit-in when you're invited to the dinner.


I am struggling with this, too. PP here. Also, I wanted the message that the children are sending to be made to the NRA, not the teachers. The teachers did nothing wrong, and should not be punished by having to wrangle children all day today. If the children were at the Capitol, that would be effective.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2018 10:52     Subject: Re:My child got detention for walking out
Anonymous wrote:Would you prefer the school give you the option of a one-day out-of-school suspension so it's not an "unlawful detainment"? Or are you just looking to get your kid out of any consequences? Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the schools that are giving kids a pass on this, but part of this kind of civic action is learning and weighing the consequences, so I think your child has been given a very valuable lesson here.


Who should determine the correct political issues for which schools give children a pass?
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2018 10:52     Subject: My child got detention for walking out
Cobb County, GA is giving students a 5 day suspension for a 17-minute walkout that doesn't leave school grounds.

That, I'd protest, but I'd also be proud of my kid for making a sacrifice to do what's right.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2018 10:51     Subject: My child got detention for walking out
My concern was that the school would invoke truancy perimeters, if the children left campus. NP here. Also, does the school not have in loco parentis status in the case of walk outs? i.e.: Is the schools' allowing the 17 minutes not an exception? Playing devil's advocate here.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2018 10:51     Subject: Re:My child got detention for walking out
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is it a one day detention? Just let the kid serve it proudly. Get home work done. Like you said, civil disobedience has consequences and that is okay. Your kid did the right thing and he or she knows that.


Yeah, I'm torn between the lessons. On the one hand, yeah, civil disobedience has consequences. On the other hand, I genuinely don't recognize the authority of the school to detain my child for this. Maybe not a hill worth dying on.


Why don't you recognize their authority? Because she walked out for a good reason that you agreed with? What if she had walked out for a reason you didn't agree with, or started protesting daily or something?

I would think she'd serve this detention as a badge of honor, and you ought to help her see it that way. If you ALSO want to send a strongly-worded statement to the administration expressing your disappointment and anget that they didn't accommodate the walkout or offer an alternative, that's a good plan, too.


What's the point of an "accomodated" walkout? It makes as much sense as a sit-in when you're invited to the dinner.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2018 10:50     Subject: My child got detention for walking out
This has been her battle from the beginning. Let it stay that way.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2018 10:50     Subject: Re:My child got detention for walking out
Would you prefer the school give you the option of a one-day out-of-school suspension so it's not an "unlawful detainment"? Or are you just looking to get your kid out of any consequences? Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the schools that are giving kids a pass on this, but part of this kind of civic action is learning and weighing the consequences, so I think your child has been given a very valuable lesson here.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2018 10:50     Subject: My child got detention for walking out
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The protests today mean more if students are disciplined.

Most colleges are accepting of it. Don't fight your kid's battles.


I guess I don't see this as fighting her battle. I have a bone to pick with the system itself.


So write a letter to the Superintendent about that. But don't make it about your kid. She knew the consequence and accepted it. Good for her.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2018 10:49     Subject: Re:My child got detention for walking out
Anonymous wrote:Yup, I would just tell the kid that the cause was worth the detention and let him/her serve. I do think the school is shitty for giving them detention though.


Why?
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2018 10:49     Subject: Re:My child got detention for walking out
In the 60's kids were proud to get in trouble. It's a mark of a good protest.