Anonymous wrote:You are kidding yourselves if you think AAP = GT.

Didn't they change the nomenclature to AAP from GT because it is not GT. Duh!

You are kidding yourselves if you think AAP = GT.

I imagine there are MANY more parent referrals in center schools than others. And so there are probably base school kids who may have been accepted but don't based on test scores and their parents didn't refer.

Our non-center school had 5% of students go with maybe 10% accepted (ballpark, but it's a small school and most people know each other).

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS's general ed program now caters to special ed and ESOL students. Unfortunately "gifted" is regular ed in many other districts.

I’m an outsider just reading about AAP here. I have to say, this is what it seems like to me. Seems like a colossal waste of money.

They actually did a study on whether or not to get rid of AAP level IV and one year it was about $2 million. Another year the cost was zero. The only extra cost other than testing is the bussing and that ended up amounting to a wash.

They could get rid of the testing and they could get rid of the Advanced Academic Resource teachers which both cost money, however those serve many children beyond just the LLIV program.

I keep saying this. All classes should be AAP. Spend the money on the testing process to find and train the best teachers. This way you can group kids based on their academic needs as determined by a placement test each year (school-specific) with the top kids getting "genius" level classes and the lowest being at the current gen-ed level.

What are you at McNair? Most grades have 2-4 classes.

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Anonymous wrote:About 20% at our high FARMS, Title I school. This means about 40% of the non ESOL, non FARMS kids are found eligible for AAP.

Wha abuts the ESOL and/or FARMS students that were also found eligible?

Very few were found eligible. I don't see why this is so surprising. Most of the AAP kids seem to be white or Asian and at least average socioeconomic status.

Anonymous wrote:About 20% at our high FARMS, Title I school. This means about 40% of the non ESOL, non FARMS kids are found eligible for AAP.

Wha abuts the ESOL and/or FARMS students that were also found eligible?

NP here- we go to a center school as well. The percentage of kids from 2nd to AAP third last year was insane last year, definitely higher than 32%.

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS's general ed program now caters to special ed and ESOL students. Unfortunately "gifted" is regular ed in many other districts.

I’m an outsider just reading about AAP here. I have to say, this is what it seems like to me. Seems like a colossal waste of money.

They actually did a study on whether or not to get rid of AAP level IV and one year it was about $2 million. Another year the cost was zero. The only extra cost other than testing is the bussing and that ended up amounting to a wash.

They could get rid of the testing and they could get rid of the Advanced Academic Resource teachers which both cost money, however those serve many children beyond just the LLIV program.

I keep saying this. All classes should be AAP. Spend the money on the testing process to find and train the best teachers. This way you can group kids based on their academic needs as determined by a placement test each year (school-specific) with the top kids getting "genius" level classes and the lowest being at the current gen-ed level.

You just contradicted your statement!

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS's general ed program now caters to special ed and ESOL students. Unfortunately "gifted" is regular ed in many other districts.

I’m an outsider just reading about AAP here. I have to say, this is what it seems like to me. Seems like a colossal waste of money.

They actually did a study on whether or not to get rid of AAP level IV and one year it was about $2 million. Another year the cost was zero. The only extra cost other than testing is the bussing and that ended up amounting to a wash.

They could get rid of the testing and they could get rid of the Advanced Academic Resource teachers which both cost money, however those serve many children beyond just the LLIV program.

I keep saying this. All classes should be AAP. Spend the money on the testing process to find and train the best teachers. This way you can group kids based on their academic needs as determined by a placement test each year (school-specific) with the top kids getting "genius" level classes and the lowest being at the current gen-ed level.

Anonymous wrote:About 20% at our high FARMS, Title I school. This means about 40% of the non ESOL, non FARMS kids are found eligible for AAP.

Such an intentionally provoking comment!

How did you do this math?

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS's general ed program now caters to special ed and ESOL students. Unfortunately "gifted" is regular ed in many other districts.

I’m an outsider just reading about AAP here. I have to say, this is what it seems like to me. Seems like a colossal waste of money.

They actually did a study on whether or not to get rid of AAP level IV and one year it was about $2 million. Another year the cost was zero. The only extra cost other than testing is the bussing and that ended up amounting to a wash.

They could get rid of the testing and they could get rid of the Advanced Academic Resource teachers which both cost money, however those serve many children beyond just the LLIV program.

Anonymous wrote:FCPS's general ed program now caters to special ed and ESOL students. Unfortunately "gifted" is regular ed in many other districts.

I think this is very school dependent. For starters, our school has less than 1% ESOL and very few FARMS. I have to go back to look at the special ed numbers but actually many kids in AAP are special ed too. We have a ton of 2E kids in AAP with IEPs, my child included. I also know the work my daughter is doing is not regular in other districts, at least not anecdotally. Whenever my child visits her cousins or our friends who have kids in the same grade, the parents are usually amazed at the work my DD is working on (she's always bringing homework or some project to work on because she stays having something due). I'm not suggesting your point isn't correct for some centers and Level IV base schools, but in FCPS AAP is very dependent on the school, principal and teacher. It's not one size fits all in the county.

Anonymous wrote:FCPS's general ed program now caters to special ed and ESOL students. Unfortunately "gifted" is regular ed in many other districts.

I’m an outsider just reading about AAP here. I have to say, this is what it seems like to me. Seems like a colossal waste of money.

It was 24% at our base school when my oldest was accepted.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, are all 32% center-eligible? Could it be that some of them are Principal placed?

No principal placement available in center schools

Except for the center schools that do have principal placements...