Anonymous
02/28/2018 12:14
Subject: Re:Can a 130 WISC save 120 scores and 10 GBRS?
I agree with the two previous posters, that AAP is not the end all, be all.
Anonymous
02/28/2018 11:37
Subject: Re:Can a 130 WISC save 120 scores and 10 GBRS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am surprised a 130 WISC wouldn't get a child in no matter the GBRS or other scores that are not IQ tests. It gets a child into Mensa but not FCPS AAP. Give me a break!
https://www.us.mensa.org/join/testscores/qualifying-test-scores/
OP here - I agee it should get a child in but apparantly FCPS rejects these kids. I am worried my child won't get in.
I just want to offer some very gentle advice. It is easy to get swept away with the need to get your child into "the best" school or program. I have had one in each (AAP and non-AAP). And for my AAP kid, he went to two different centers (b/c we moved within the county to reduce DH's commute).
I also had substantial interaction with classmates of my non-AAP kid b/c I was a scout leader. Most of the kids in that troop were not in AAP, although one was. I can tell you that now that those kids are finishing MS, the ones who were not in AAP, but had natural drive and curiosity, are doing JUST AS WELL as the kids in AAP. Even among the ones who didn't show all that much drive and curiosity as 3rd-5th graders, many are stepping it up in MS and are blooming at just the right time as they hit HS. My own child (the non-AAP kid) was literally just on the cusp of the pool. We didn't refer b/c we just assumed if she didn't make the pool, then she shouldn't be in it. For years, I regretted this.... (she was 99th percentile in the verbal section of CogAt.). But, now, I see how much the internal desire to learn dictates success. The kids who were her peers in gen ed (probably didn't do as well as she did on the CogAT) are stepping ahead of her in MS. Her personality or maturity just doesn't care about pushing ahead. Other kids have taken that cue and now are pushing themselves.
In regard to my other kid who has been at two centers -- I can tell you that there is a LOT of variability in the programs within the AAP center system. Just b/c your kid is in AAP does not mean that s/he is getting something so far and beyond what is happening in gen ed.
Having observed both kids and several different versions of FCPS elem. school, my take away is that my kids are inherently the same people they always were and the programs they have been in are far less important that what THEY have brought to the program/classroom. I can pretty much guarantee you that your child will NOT suffer or be irreparably scarred by not getting into AAP. I am grateful that my one child had AAP, but now that I have the perspective of looking back at each kid's experience and outcomes, it's so much more about the kid and less about the curriculum.
A child who doesn't do AAP is still 100% on track to fit-in in HS with kids who went to AAP.... IF that is what the child has the drive to do.
+1 People are acting like "getting stuck in Gen Ed" is a national tragedy. There are plenty of great teachers and kids in Gen Ed, including my daughter. I have no doubt she will succeed in life, with or without AAP.
Anonymous
02/28/2018 09:30
Subject: Re:Can a 130 WISC save 120 scores and 10 GBRS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am surprised a 130 WISC wouldn't get a child in no matter the GBRS or other scores that are not IQ tests. It gets a child into Mensa but not FCPS AAP. Give me a break!
https://www.us.mensa.org/join/testscores/qualifying-test-scores/
OP here - I agee it should get a child in but apparantly FCPS rejects these kids. I am worried my child won't get in.
I just want to offer some very gentle advice. It is easy to get swept away with the need to get your child into "the best" school or program. I have had one in each (AAP and non-AAP). And for my AAP kid, he went to two different centers (b/c we moved within the county to reduce DH's commute).
I also had substantial interaction with classmates of my non-AAP kid b/c I was a scout leader. Most of the kids in that troop were not in AAP, although one was. I can tell you that now that those kids are finishing MS, the ones who were not in AAP, but had natural drive and curiosity, are doing JUST AS WELL as the kids in AAP. Even among the ones who didn't show all that much drive and curiosity as 3rd-5th graders, many are stepping it up in MS and are blooming at just the right time as they hit HS. My own child (the non-AAP kid) was literally just on the cusp of the pool. We didn't refer b/c we just assumed if she didn't make the pool, then she shouldn't be in it. For years, I regretted this.... (she was 99th percentile in the verbal section of CogAt.). But, now, I see how much the internal desire to learn dictates success. The kids who were her peers in gen ed (probably didn't do as well as she did on the CogAT) are stepping ahead of her in MS. Her personality or maturity just doesn't care about pushing ahead. Other kids have taken that cue and now are pushing themselves.
In regard to my other kid who has been at two centers -- I can tell you that there is a LOT of variability in the programs within the AAP center system. Just b/c your kid is in AAP does not mean that s/he is getting something so far and beyond what is happening in gen ed.
Having observed both kids and several different versions of FCPS elem. school, my take away is that my kids are inherently the same people they always were and the programs they have been in are far less important that what THEY have brought to the program/classroom. I can pretty much guarantee you that your child will NOT suffer or be irreparably scarred by not getting into AAP. I am grateful that my one child had AAP, but now that I have the perspective of looking back at each kid's experience and outcomes, it's so much more about the kid and less about the curriculum.
A child who doesn't do AAP is still 100% on track to fit-in in HS with kids who went to AAP.... IF that is what the child has the drive to do.
Anonymous
02/28/2018 08:14
Subject: Re:Can a 130 WISC save 120 scores and 10 GBRS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope so. My DD has similar scores. The irony is her sister is in AAP and my DD can do her sisters homework (she does it too, not for her older sister of course). Denying her access will be nuts to me since I know she can do the work. Sadly, the Selection Committee has no way to know that. We will have to bite the bullet and go private if she is denied.
Why do you have to go private? Why not stay
If my child is going to be stuck in Gen Ed, she may as well at least not be 1 of 26 kids. The Private schools we're looking at offer smaller class sizes so at least she will get more individualized attention. No way I'm keeping my bright child in Gen Ed with that many kids in a classroom.
Anonymous
02/28/2018 07:39
Subject: Re:Can a 130 WISC save 120 scores and 10 GBRS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DD has a 10 gbrs, CogAt 127 composite, verbal 130, Quant 123, 120 Nonverbal. I think will be rejected, hoping for a good WISC.
Composite 127 is not bad at all. Hope your child gets in.
Thank you! It’s 85 percentile for fcps, and with gbrs of 10, I think both on bubble.
Anonymous
02/28/2018 06:41
Subject: Re:Can a 130 WISC save 120 scores and 10 GBRS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am surprised a 130 WISC wouldn't get a child in no matter the GBRS or other scores that are not IQ tests. It gets a child into Mensa but not FCPS AAP. Give me a break!
https://www.us.mensa.org/join/testscores/qualifying-test-scores/
OP here - I agee it should get a child in but apparantly FCPS rejects these kids. I am worried my child won't get in.
Private testing padding scores to just the minimum that might possibly be high enough to get into AAP
Anonymous
02/28/2018 06:33
Subject: Re:Can a 130 WISC save 120 scores and 10 GBRS?
I’m not sure. I hate to say this but mentally prepare to appeal.
Anonymous
02/28/2018 02:43
Subject: Re:Can a 130 WISC save 120 scores and 10 GBRS?
Anonymous wrote:I hope so. My DD has similar scores. The irony is her sister is in AAP and my DD can do her sisters homework (she does it too, not for her older sister of course). Denying her access will be nuts to me since I know she can do the work. Sadly, the Selection Committee has no way to know that. We will have to bite the bullet and go private if she is denied.
Why do you have to go private? Why not stay
Anonymous
02/28/2018 00:53
Subject: Re:Can a 130 WISC save 120 scores and 10 GBRS?
So one take away is that GBRS is the king right?
Anonymous
02/28/2018 00:02
Subject: Re:Can a 130 WISC save 120 scores and 10 GBRS?
Anonymous wrote:My DD has a 10 gbrs, CogAt 127 composite, verbal 130, Quant 123, 120 Nonverbal. I think will be rejected, hoping for a good WISC.
Composite 127 is not bad at all. Hope your child gets in.
Anonymous
02/27/2018 23:33
Subject: Re:Can a 130 WISC save 120 scores and 10 GBRS?
Anonymous wrote:I am surprised a 130 WISC wouldn't get a child in no matter the GBRS or other scores that are not IQ tests. It gets a child into Mensa but not FCPS AAP. Give me a break!
https://www.us.mensa.org/join/testscores/qualifying-test-scores/
OP here - I agee it should get a child in but apparantly FCPS rejects these kids. I am worried my child won't get in.
Anonymous
02/27/2018 23:26
Subject: Re:Can a 130 WISC save 120 scores and 10 GBRS?
My DD has a 10 gbrs, CogAt 127 composite, verbal 130, Quant 123, 120 Nonverbal. I think will be rejected, hoping for a good WISC.
Anonymous
02/27/2018 23:19
Subject: Re:Can a 130 WISC save 120 scores and 10 GBRS?
I am surprised a 130 WISC wouldn't get a child in no matter the GBRS or other scores that are not IQ tests. It gets a child into Mensa but not FCPS AAP. Give me a break!
https://www.us.mensa.org/join/testscores/qualifying-test-scores/
https://www.us.mensa.org/join/testscores/qualifying-test-scores/
Anonymous
02/27/2018 23:12
Subject: Re:Can a 130 WISC save 120 scores and 10 GBRS?
Anonymous wrote:I hope so. My DD has similar scores. The irony is her sister is in AAP and my DD can do her sisters homework (she does it too, not for her older sister of course). Denying her access will be nuts to me since I know she can do the work. Sadly, the Selection Committee has no way to know that. We will have to bite the bullet and go private if she is denied.
I feel for you- our eldest missed one question on each test and had a high GBRS- got in. Our youngest had the first test on a computer, and we know DC will just zoom through. Did ok- 120 but not the cut off for in pool. We decided to get a WISC after DC took the COGAT since we were worried DC's hurried test taking would not yield much better. We also did this since DC2 is very smart- but his sloppiness would have impacted his ES and make him feel less than DC1. WISC came out to 148- DC got in first round. Both kids are doing great- but the impact of one not getting in vs the other was the reason we paid for the WISC for the first round. Our AART also recommended not saving the WISC for an appeal.
Anonymous
02/27/2018 23:11
Subject: Re:Can a 130 WISC save 120 scores and 10 GBRS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can’t remember if it was 9 or 10, wasn’t 11. Btw some of the wisc sections were very high.
133, 134 and one sub section was 99.6%.
Still not good enough.
Totally possible. Anything is possible.
Based on acceptance threads, Unfortunately, not anything, with a 10 GBRS, would need high 120s cogAt with strong verbal or Quant and appeal with 130 or better WISC.
OP said he/she had a 130 WISC.
Yes I can read
. Need the other metrics as well.