Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Still pretty disturbing that the FBI, in its zeal to continue assisting Hillary to a win, knowingly provided unvetted information her campaign developed (via Steele) to the FISA court in order to spy on her opponent. (And failed to tell the FISA court that the unvetted info originated with Hillary's campaign.)
Uh, it was the NY FBI office that forced the issue on the emails that turned out to be less than nothing, coordinated with Giuliani, Erik Prince and others to spread disinformation that changed the poll numbers in the week before the election. If the Steel Dossier was a ploy to ensure Hillary would win, then it failed miserably, no?
How can you say the issue with emails was less than nothing? After all that's come out about the FBI''s efforts to get her off clean? (The fact that the NY office did the right thing just shows that most in the FBI do the right thing.)
Just reverse it. Would you say it's "less than nothing" if the FBI discovered that Trump had a secret server, and that he quickly wiped 30,000 emails off it upon its discovery? And then, in an effort to make sure his communications were never revealed, destroyed the server itself, after the server was subpoenaed by Congress? You'd be screaming for impeachment.
BTW, there is more than one conservative posting here. I say this because liberals here tend to think they're addressing the same person all the time.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the info in the Steele dossier wrong simply because it was compiled by Trump foes?
Ot is anything produced by Trump foes disregarded even if it's true?
It hasn't been proven true. And it's worse than that, and you know it. Comey allowed information provided by the Hillary campaign, which he himself acknowledged as "salacious" to be used to obtain a FISA warrant against Trump.
It does make me wonder who was pulling the strings. He obviously was instructed to let Hillary slide in conjunction with her gross mishandling of classified information and the related obstruction of justice as she tried to hide evidence, so who was pushing him? We already know that Lynch told him to call it a "matter" and attempted a clandestine meeting with Bill a couple of days before Hillary's "interview'," but does the path stop there?
The Clintons are the dirtiest people in politics, bar NONE. Democrats don't have a leg to stand on when they criticize Trump for dishonest and corruption.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the info in the Steele dossier wrong simply because it was compiled by Trump foes?
Ot is anything produced by Trump foes disregarded even if it's true?
It hasn't been proven true. And it's worse than that, and you know it. Comey allowed information provided by the Hillary campaign, which he himself acknowledged as "salacious" to be used to obtain a FISA warrant against Trump.
It does make me wonder who was pulling the strings. He obviously was instructed to let Hillary slide in conjunction with her gross mishandling of classified information and the related obstruction of justice as she tried to hide evidence, so who was pushing him? We already know that Lynch told him to call it a "matter" and attempted a clandestine meeting with Bill a couple of days before Hillary's "interview'," but does the path stop there?
The Clintons are the dirtiest people in politics, bar NONE. Democrats don't have a leg to stand on when they criticize Trump for dishonest and corruption.
The upside down: Podesta, pizza, and the Clintons!!! It's all there!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the info in the Steele dossier wrong simply because it was compiled by Trump foes?
Ot is anything produced by Trump foes disregarded even if it's true?
We really don’t know the veracity of the information. The main point here is that the FBI presented this to the FISA court without knowing the veracity of the information because, as Comey indicated, because Steele had provided solid information in the past. And, Comey himself referred to this dossier as “salacious and unverified.”
Anonymous wrote:Page 5 of the memo:
Journalists from NYT, Washington Post, Yahoo News, the New Yorker and CNN WERE BRIEFED at the end of sept 2016 by Steele and Fusion GPS at Fusion’s instruction.
Then, page 6:
Mr. Steele also admitted in British litigation to briefing journalists from the above organizations. And, in the British litigation, he admitted that he included unsolicited and unverified allegations.
These charges do not sound like something an “elite British Intelligence Officer” would do.
Sounds to me like he was desperate to see that Trump did not win. And, he was willing to do most anything to make that happen.
And, the British litigation referenced here, I believe, is the suit that has been filed against him around the dossier.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/05/christopher-steele-is-no-show-in-london-court-in-civil-case-over-dossier.html
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This memo seems to be making the exact same flawed arguments that the Nunes memo made, that a.) the dossier was central evidence in getting the FISA warrant and b.) the source and how it was developed wasn't disclosed to the FISA court.
Both of those are already debunked.
Did Grassley and Graham actually read the FISA warrant and associated documentation? Turned out Nunes didn't...
Yes. Grassley read the FISA warrant. And, the fact that the information presented to FISC was primarily information provided by Steele has not been debunked.
Still pretty disturbing that the FBI, in its zeal to continue assisting Hillary to a win, knowingly provided unvetted information her campaign developed (via Steele) to the FISA court in order to spy on her opponent. (And failed to tell the FISA court that the unvetted info originated with Hillary's campaign.)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Still pretty disturbing that the FBI, in its zeal to continue assisting Hillary to a win, knowingly provided unvetted information her campaign developed (via Steele) to the FISA court in order to spy on her opponent. (And failed to tell the FISA court that the unvetted info originated with Hillary's campaign.)
Uh, it was the NY FBI office that forced the issue on the emails that turned out to be less than nothing, coordinated with Giuliani, Erik Prince and others to spread disinformation that changed the poll numbers in the week before the election. If the Steel Dossier was a ploy to ensure Hillary would win, then it failed miserably, no?
How can you say the issue with emails was less than nothing? After all that's come out about the FBI''s efforts to get her off clean? (The fact that the NY office did the right thing just shows that most in the FBI do the right thing.)
Just reverse it. Would you say it's "less than nothing" if the FBI discovered that Trump had a secret server, and that he quickly wiped 30,000 emails off it upon its discovery? And then, in an effort to make sure his communications were never revealed, destroyed the server itself, after the server was subpoenaed by Congress? You'd be screaming for impeachment.
BTW, there is more than one conservative posting here. I say this because liberals here tend to think they're addressing the same person all the time.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the info in the Steele dossier wrong simply because it was compiled by Trump foes?
Ot is anything produced by Trump foes disregarded even if it's true?
It hasn't been proven true. And it's worse than that, and you know it. Comey allowed information provided by the Hillary campaign, which he himself acknowledged as "salacious" to be used to obtain a FISA warrant against Trump.
It does make me wonder who was pulling the strings. He obviously was instructed to let Hillary slide in conjunction with her gross mishandling of classified information and the related obstruction of justice as she tried to hide evidence, so who was pushing him? We already know that Lynch told him to call it a "matter" and attempted a clandestine meeting with Bill a couple of days before Hillary's "interview'," but does the path stop there?
The Clintons are the dirtiest people in politics, bar NONE. Democrats don't have a leg to stand on when they criticize Trump for dishonest and corruption.
Yep, the dossier cost Trump the election.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Still pretty disturbing that the FBI, in its zeal to continue assisting Hillary to a win, knowingly provided unvetted information her campaign developed (via Steele) to the FISA court in order to spy on her opponent. (And failed to tell the FISA court that the unvetted info originated with Hillary's campaign.)
Uh, it was the NY FBI office that forced the issue on the emails that turned out to be less than nothing, coordinated with Giuliani, Erik Prince and others to spread disinformation that changed the poll numbers in the week before the election. If the Steel Dossier was a ploy to ensure Hillary would win, then it failed miserably, no?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the info in the Steele dossier wrong simply because it was compiled by Trump foes?
Ot is anything produced by Trump foes disregarded even if it's true?
It hasn't been proven true. And it's worse than that, and you know it. Comey allowed information provided by the Hillary campaign, which he himself acknowledged as "salacious" to be used to obtain a FISA warrant against Trump.
It does make me wonder who was pulling the strings. He obviously was instructed to let Hillary slide in conjunction with her gross mishandling of classified information and the related obstruction of justice as she tried to hide evidence, so who was pushing him? We already know that Lynch told him to call it a "matter" and attempted a clandestine meeting with Bill a couple of days before Hillary's "interview'," but does the path stop there?
The Clintons are the dirtiest people in politics, bar NONE. Democrats don't have a leg to stand on when they criticize Trump for dishonest and corruption.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the info in the Steele dossier wrong simply because it was compiled by Trump foes?
Ot is anything produced by Trump foes disregarded even if it's true?
It hasn't been proven true. And it's worse than that, and you know it. Comey allowed information provided by the Hillary campaign, which he himself acknowledged as "salacious" to be used to obtain a FISA warrant against Trump.
It does make me wonder who was pulling the strings. He obviously was instructed to let Hillary slide in conjunction with her gross mishandling of classified information and the related obstruction of justice as she tried to hide evidence, so who was pushing him? We already know that Lynch told him to call it a "matter" and attempted a clandestine meeting with Bill a couple of days before Hillary's "interview'," but does the path stop there?
The Clintons are the dirtiest people in politics, bar NONE. Democrats don't have a leg to stand on when they criticize Trump for dishonest and corruption.
Anonymous wrote:Is the info in the Steele dossier wrong simply because it was compiled by Trump foes?
Ot is anything produced by Trump foes disregarded even if it's true?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This memo seems to be making the exact same flawed arguments that the Nunes memo made, that a.) the dossier was central evidence in getting the FISA warrant and b.) the source and how it was developed wasn't disclosed to the FISA court.
Both of those are already debunked.
Did Grassley and Graham actually read the FISA warrant and associated documentation? Turned out Nunes didn't...
Yes. Grassley read the FISA warrant. And, the fact that the information presented to FISC was primarily information provided by Steele has not been debunked.
Still pretty disturbing that the FBI, in its zeal to continue assisting Hillary to a win, knowingly provided unvetted information her campaign developed (via Steele) to the FISA court in order to spy on her opponent. (And failed to tell the FISA court that the unvetted info originated with Hillary's campaign.)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here. If the link to the pdf doesn’t work, try this.
https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2018-02-06%20CEG%20LG%20to%20DOJ%20FBI%20(Unclassified%20Steele%20Referral).pdf
Thanks for posting this.
I only got to page four when I saw that Comey called the information "salacious." How then did the FBI go ahead and present salacious information to the FIDA court? That's worse than unvetted!