Anonymous
02/07/2018 09:37
Subject: Re:Relocation Help/Elementary AAP
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is the wrong board for advice on what district to move into.
Go to Fairfax County Public Schools website to read about how elementary gifted services work. It’s all there.
No.
It belongs in AAP.
The entire AAP board was created for fcps gifted services.
Quit messing with OP and wasting her time.
Excuse me? I said this isn’t a board to give moving advice (meaning we can’t tell her which county to move to, that’s a personal decision) and I pointed her in the direction to learn more about gifted services on the website. It’s too long to type. Chill out.
And it’s certainly not “messing” with her.
Anonymous
02/07/2018 09:19
Subject: Re:Relocation Help/Elementary AAP
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is the wrong board for advice on what district to move into.
Go to Fairfax County Public Schools website to read about how elementary gifted services work. It’s all there.
No.
It belongs in AAP.
The entire AAP board was created for fcps gifted services.
Quit messing with OP and wasting her time.
Excuse me? I said this isn’t a board to give moving advice (meaning we can’t tell her which county to move to, that’s a personal decision) and I pointed her in the direction to learn more about gifted services on the website. It’s too long to type. Chill out.
Anonymous
02/07/2018 08:58
Subject: Relocation Help/Elementary AAP
Anonymous wrote:^ I'm not sure where people even got the idea that WISC was only usable for one year after the test was administered. Maybe they're misinterpreting the fact that WISC is not allowed to be given within 12 months of a previous WISC. That doesn't mean a WISC becomes invalid after 12 months. It just means that a new valid WISC can't be given before 12 months.
FCPS seems to accept whatever testing you have from previous school districts.
+1
Also the past 2 years -- or maybe 1 1/2 years -- of report cards from the prior school district.
Anonymous
02/07/2018 08:57
Subject: Relocation Help/Elementary AAP
The CogAT is given to all 2nd graders. Also, the NNAT is given to all 2nd graders that have not taken it yet (in 1st grade in FCPS).
Anonymous
02/07/2018 08:57
Subject: Relocation Help/Elementary AAP
^ I'm not sure where people even got the idea that WISC was only usable for one year after the test was administered. Maybe they're misinterpreting the fact that WISC is not allowed to be given within 12 months of a previous WISC. That doesn't mean a WISC becomes invalid after 12 months. It just means that a new valid WISC can't be given before 12 months.
FCPS seems to accept whatever testing you have from previous school districts.
FCPS seems to accept whatever testing you have from previous school districts.
Anonymous
02/07/2018 08:53
Subject: Relocation Help/Elementary AAP
WISC is generally considered valid for 2 years. FCPS doesn't specify anything at all regarding the timeframe of WISC validity.
Anonymous
02/07/2018 08:49
Subject: Relocation Help/Elementary AAP
The WISC would have to be given no later than January 2018 for OP to use it for a January 2019 application.
Anonymous
02/07/2018 08:49
Subject: Re:Relocation Help/Elementary AAP
ikornika wrote:Anonymous wrote:Avoid Alexandria. For the best AAP centers, look into McLean schools or the elementary schools feeding into Carson middle school, although the commute will be much longer than 45 minutes to DC. Elementary schools have level IV (gifted and/or advanced kids are mixed with regular class) and centers (separate classes). Our DC has been at the center since K and got separate teaching since 1st grade for math until he started AAP in 3rd grade. Kids take a test in 1st grade (nnat) and 2nd grade (cogat) that determine eligibility for 3rd grade AAP. A score of 132 + pretty much guarantees entrance.
McLean is somewhere we were looking at. Thank you! That is helpful.
Is the second grade COGAT offered for all public school second graders or does one have to pay and/or request testing?
All second graders. No cost, it's paid from the ffx county schools budget.
Anonymous
02/07/2018 08:48
Subject: Relocation Help/Elementary AAP
yeah, that WISC will be no good. They really aren't accurate for that age anyway honestly.
If she is reading a year or so ahead of the norm, then she will be in the middle of the pack in most well-off areas. I wouldn't worry at all about second grade.
If she is reading a year or so ahead of the norm, then she will be in the middle of the pack in most well-off areas. I wouldn't worry at all about second grade.
Anonymous
02/07/2018 08:45
Subject: Re:Relocation Help/Elementary AAP
ikornika wrote:Anonymous wrote:Avoid Alexandria. For the best AAP centers, look into McLean schools or the elementary schools feeding into Carson middle school, although the commute will be much longer than 45 minutes to DC. Elementary schools have level IV (gifted and/or advanced kids are mixed with regular class) and centers (separate classes). Our DC has been at the center since K and got separate teaching since 1st grade for math until he started AAP in 3rd grade. Kids take a test in 1st grade (nnat) and 2nd grade (cogat) that determine eligibility for 3rd grade AAP. A score of 132 + pretty much guarantees entrance.
McLean is somewhere we were looking at. Thank you! That is helpful.
Is the second grade COGAT offered for all public school second graders or does one have to pay and/or request testing?
Everyone (in FCPS public) takes it in 2nd at school for free. And if she does well on the CogAT and had the WISC, you won't need the NNAT.
2nd grade in FCPS with some informal in-class differentiation will likely be more challenging than your Florida gifted program.
ikornika
02/07/2018 08:41
Subject: Re:Relocation Help/Elementary AAP
Anonymous wrote:Avoid Alexandria. For the best AAP centers, look into McLean schools or the elementary schools feeding into Carson middle school, although the commute will be much longer than 45 minutes to DC. Elementary schools have level IV (gifted and/or advanced kids are mixed with regular class) and centers (separate classes). Our DC has been at the center since K and got separate teaching since 1st grade for math until he started AAP in 3rd grade. Kids take a test in 1st grade (nnat) and 2nd grade (cogat) that determine eligibility for 3rd grade AAP. A score of 132 + pretty much guarantees entrance.
McLean is somewhere we were looking at. Thank you! That is helpful.
Is the second grade COGAT offered for all public school second graders or does one have to pay and/or request testing?
ikornika
02/07/2018 08:38
Subject: Re:Relocation Help/Elementary AAP
Anonymous wrote:--likely the Wisc is of no use here. It seems to have been given before its of any clinical significance
--schools are like much, much harder here then there. I have a family member in the gifted program in fl. I also previously taught a year in fl and for many in fairfax. The difference is astounding.
I'm not saying your child doesn't belong in the program here. I'm saying if you have a Wisc that was likely done on a kindergartener, it won't be much help here. I'm also saying the aap program is far more advanced than the two gifted programs I know about in fl and we often discussed at school meetings issues with our county's gifted services.
Good luck
Hahaha! So I've noticed! It is quite different. Just navigating the system is much harder.
FWIW, WISC was performed just before first grade year. She was 6 years and 2 months at the time.