Anonymous
01/23/2018 11:44
Subject: The backlash begins on the end of the shut down
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why did Paul and Lee vote against it?
Paul has never voted for a budget that won't balance
Lee has never voted for a CR.
The only 2 in the whole place with brains.
Then how the heck he voted for the TaxCut which increases the deficit so much? Liars.
Anonymous
01/23/2018 11:36
Subject: Re:The backlash begins on the end of the shut down
Hispanic caucus and the Dreamers are upset with the Democrats for ending the shut down:
But Rep. Luis Gutiérrez (D-Ill.) — arguably the most outspoken Democrat on immigration matters — spoke next and unloaded on Schumer, accusing him and Democratic senators of not caring about the fate of dreamers and “throwing them under the bus” in the ongoing spending debate with Republicans, participants said.
In response, Schumer raised his voice, telling Gutiérrez not to insult fellow Democrats.
Gutiérrez shot back, telling Schumer, “Don’t raise your voice.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/12/21/in-private-meeting-schumer-angrily-confronted-by-hispanic-caucus-members-as-prospects-for-daca-deal-slip-again/?utm_term=.1f068de534bf
"Dreamers Feel Betrayed After Senate Democrats Break Their Promises"
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dreamers-senate-democrats_us_5a666995e4b002283005d407?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
But Rep. Luis Gutiérrez (D-Ill.) — arguably the most outspoken Democrat on immigration matters — spoke next and unloaded on Schumer, accusing him and Democratic senators of not caring about the fate of dreamers and “throwing them under the bus” in the ongoing spending debate with Republicans, participants said.
In response, Schumer raised his voice, telling Gutiérrez not to insult fellow Democrats.
Gutiérrez shot back, telling Schumer, “Don’t raise your voice.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/12/21/in-private-meeting-schumer-angrily-confronted-by-hispanic-caucus-members-as-prospects-for-daca-deal-slip-again/?utm_term=.1f068de534bf
"Dreamers Feel Betrayed After Senate Democrats Break Their Promises"
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dreamers-senate-democrats_us_5a666995e4b002283005d407?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
Anonymous
01/22/2018 21:00
Subject: The backlash begins on the end of the shut down
Anonymous wrote:Liberal activists are furious at the decision by Schumer and other Democrats to end the shut down.
I am sure when the shut down started Democrats did not anticipate that it could end up backfiring on them:
Liberal activists are furious with Democratic senators after most of them agreed to reopen the federal government without a firm path to shielding young immigrants from deportation.
As the third day of the shutdown dawned, liberal advocates and immigration groups fired off a joint statement blasting as "unacceptable" Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell's (R-Ky.) offer to merely hold a vote on immigration — with no promises for action from the House or White House — in exchange for Democratic votes to reopen the government. But three hours later, Democratic senators agreed to just those terms — sparking anger on the left.
"Millions of people flooded the streets of every major American city to stand up to Trump this weekend," tweeted Leah Greenberg, the co-executive director of the influential activist network Indivisible. "Your constituents want you to fight. How can you possibly not understand that?"
Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer on Monday argued Democrats secured critical assurance for Dreamers, who are at risk for deportation as soon as March after President Donald Trump's decision to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/22/government-shutdown-deal-liberals-angry-357268
When the media narrative turned against Dems Schumer caved like the career politician he is. It’s gotta SUCK getting schooled by a guy the twittiots keep telling us is unqualified, not legitimate, a buffoon, and a disgrace to the presidency. MAGA
Anonymous
01/22/2018 20:58
Subject: The backlash begins on the end of the shut down
The 16 democrats who voted against it are all selfish grandstanding idiots and won't have any real input into the daca legislation. Their votes aren't needed, and they put their personal egomania over party loyalty and unity. All they did was undercut Schumers future ability to negotiate the best daca deal possible. Since Schumer can't promise McConnell their votes, they just lost their seat at the table. Schumer stuck his neck out for them and this is how they repay him? Absurd. They just cut themselves completely out of the negotiations.
Anonymous
01/22/2018 20:04
Subject: Re:The backlash begins on the end of the shut down
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The only senator who voted against the deal that surprises me is Jon Tester from Montana.
The others who voted against it are in reliably blue states:
Blumenthal
Booker
Cortez Masto
Feinstein
Gillibrand
Harris
Hirono
Leahy
Markey
Menendez
Merkley
Murphy
Sanders
Tester
Warren
Wyden
Rand Paul also voted against it.
Of course he did. And yet, oddly, it does not make me like Rand Paul more. Because he had some batshit crazy rationale. They grow a special kind of obnoxious Senators in Kentucky. Rand Paul and McConnell. What do they do, look for two least likely people in the state and elect them senator?
Anonymous
01/22/2018 19:51
Subject: The backlash begins on the end of the shut down
Anonymous wrote:Why did Paul and Lee vote against it?
Paul has never voted for a budget that won't balance
Lee has never voted for a CR.
The only 2 in the whole place with brains.
Anonymous
01/22/2018 19:36
Subject: The backlash begins on the end of the shut down
Anonymous wrote:Why did Paul and Lee vote against it?
Paul hates big budgets
Anonymous
01/22/2018 19:28
Subject: The backlash begins on the end of the shut down
United We Dream twitter is at https://twitter.com/UNITEDWEDREAM?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftranslate.googleusercontent.com%2Ftranslate_c%3Fdepth%3D1%26hl%3Den%26prev%3Dsearch%26rurl%3Dtranslate.google.com%26sl%3Des%26sp%3Dnmt4%26u%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Flaopinion.com%2F2018%2F01%2F22%2Fcongreso-da-luz-verde-a-reapertura-del-gobierno-sin-solucion-para-daca-a-la-vista%2F%26usg%3DALkJrhhgqD9R8kwiVAqpCJn_7D56Ip9u6w
Note
"Stay with us until we reclaim our Democracy from Donald Trump...we will not back down."
Our Democracy? No it is my Democracy and you are uninvited guests with the US as gracious hosts.
Note
"Stay with us until we reclaim our Democracy from Donald Trump...we will not back down."
Our Democracy? No it is my Democracy and you are uninvited guests with the US as gracious hosts.
Anonymous
01/22/2018 19:26
Subject: The backlash begins on the end of the shut down
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Those 2 are outliers.
Meanwhile Rep Guterriez is going ballistic. https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/trump-slams-democrats-as-third-day-of-government-shutdown-begins/2018/01/22/3a3eecf0-ff25-11e7-9d31-d72cf78dbeee_story.html?hpid=hp_rhp-banner-main_shutdownmon-0921am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&tidr=a_breakingnews&utm_term=.5dd79d450c58
"...do you think the Democrats would say yes? This shows me that when it comes to immigrants, Latinos and their families, Democrats are still not willing to go to the mat to allow people in my community to live in our country legally,”
My community? This fool is a US citizen representing US citizens NOT illegal aliens. His community isn't US citizens? That says it all.
He has made it clear who "his people" are, and they aren't the citizens of this nation.
A representative whose loyalties lie with foreigners is treasonous.
You might gut want to look up “treasonous.” Or ask Donnie Jr.
Anonymous
01/22/2018 19:25
Subject: The backlash begins on the end of the shut down
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think the strategy has potential. Dems took CHiP off the board. They also got a key concession from McConnell. If they get passage in the Senate, that forces Ryan to act in the House, because he's unlikely to want to be the focal point of the anti-immigrant rage. And many Republican House members really don't want to vote against a DACA fix in the 6 months before midterms. So it all falls on Trump and whether he has the balls to veto it. I say he doesn't have the balls.
+1 and what, is the Indivisble team going to start identifying primary challengers against Progressive Dems?? Not likely.
Just how many are in the Big Progressive Dem group? I'm a DEM and wanted my govt to NOT shut down. The group and the media have coined the label Progressive but progress towards what?
Not eliminating slavery which my family fought to do in the Civil War. Not the Civil Rights movement. Not getting out of Vietnam. Not entering WW1 and WW2. They want illegal immigration. Excuse me but even in 1855 we knew who got off the boats. Some people walked across the border from Canada or Mexico but nothing like this...
Give me progress on equitable funding for illegal immigrants and Obama's minor surge.
Racist Demagoguery FTW!
Anonymous
01/22/2018 19:25
Subject: The backlash begins on the end of the shut down
Anonymous wrote:Those 2 are outliers.
Meanwhile Rep Guterriez is going ballistic. https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/trump-slams-democrats-as-third-day-of-government-shutdown-begins/2018/01/22/3a3eecf0-ff25-11e7-9d31-d72cf78dbeee_story.html?hpid=hp_rhp-banner-main_shutdownmon-0921am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&tidr=a_breakingnews&utm_term=.5dd79d450c58
"...do you think the Democrats would say yes? This shows me that when it comes to immigrants, Latinos and their families, Democrats are still not willing to go to the mat to allow people in my community to live in our country legally,”
My community? This fool is a US citizen representing US citizens NOT illegal aliens. His community isn't US citizens? That says it all.
He has made it clear who "his people" are, and they aren't the citizens of this nation.
A representative whose loyalties lie with foreigners is treasonous.
Anonymous
01/22/2018 19:23
Subject: The backlash begins on the end of the shut down
Anonymous wrote:Why did Sen. Cochran reject Sen. Burr's request to amend language regarding the US IC portion of the bill passed today?
Cochran is a calcified fossil.
Anonymous
01/22/2018 18:54
Subject: The backlash begins on the end of the shut down
Those 2 are outliers.
Meanwhile Rep Guterriez is going ballistic. https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/trump-slams-democrats-as-third-day-of-government-shutdown-begins/2018/01/22/3a3eecf0-ff25-11e7-9d31-d72cf78dbeee_story.html?hpid=hp_rhp-banner-main_shutdownmon-0921am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&tidr=a_breakingnews&utm_term=.5dd79d450c58
"...do you think the Democrats would say yes? This shows me that when it comes to immigrants, Latinos and their families, Democrats are still not willing to go to the mat to allow people in my community to live in our country legally,”
My community? This fool is a US citizen representing US citizens NOT illegal aliens. His community isn't US citizens? That says it all.
Meanwhile Rep Guterriez is going ballistic. https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/trump-slams-democrats-as-third-day-of-government-shutdown-begins/2018/01/22/3a3eecf0-ff25-11e7-9d31-d72cf78dbeee_story.html?hpid=hp_rhp-banner-main_shutdownmon-0921am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&tidr=a_breakingnews&utm_term=.5dd79d450c58
"...do you think the Democrats would say yes? This shows me that when it comes to immigrants, Latinos and their families, Democrats are still not willing to go to the mat to allow people in my community to live in our country legally,”
My community? This fool is a US citizen representing US citizens NOT illegal aliens. His community isn't US citizens? That says it all.
Anonymous
01/22/2018 18:41
Subject: The backlash begins on the end of the shut down
Why did Paul and Lee vote against it?
Anonymous
01/22/2018 18:14
Subject: Re:The backlash begins on the end of the shut down
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The only senator who voted against the deal that surprises me is Jon Tester from Montana.
The others who voted against it are in reliably blue states:
Blumenthal
Booker
Cortez Masto
Feinstein
Gillibrand
Harris
Hirono
Leahy
Markey
Menendez
Merkley
Murphy
Sanders
Tester
Warren
Wyden
Rand Paul also voted against it.
I should have clarified: I was listing Democratic senators.