I don’t get it, people are complaining because they wanted to buy a house in the cheaper area knowing full well the assigned zone school sucked, and want to keep sending their kids to an out of zone better school? We were zoned for JH and made the move to Rosemont for Maury. There are too many under enrolled schools and too many over enrolled busting at the seams schools. Something has to be done. No plan is perfect but what are they supposed to do?

MeeeOOOOOOOW!

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Anonymous wrote:What if all the kids in a family are at a school because of administrative transfers? They all move?

Yes, unless they will be rising 4th or 5th graders this summer.

I have a rising 4th grader so his 1st grade sister can stay as long as he's there, which is one year.

My neighbors, however, have just one kid and since she's a 2nd grader, she's getting the boot.

This is how idiotic and sloppy the school board was with the grandfathering process. They created situations where literal next door neighbors are treated disparately.

You created a situation where you live in a neighborhood where no one wants to go to their zoned school. It was just some good luck in that situation that you and your neighbor were transferred to the same school outside of your zoned school in the first place. Not always the case.

Umm, I didn't create anything. ACPS offers a variety of transfers to families that seek them. I took advantage of that offer and now theyre trying to change the rules.

They're not trying to change the rules. They are changing the rules. Which anyone with any sense should have and could have seen coming for at least the past 5 years, if not more. Because what ACPS was doing was not sustainable. So relying on the deck of cards is fine, but don't be shocked when it falls.

Call me naive, but I believe in contracts and promises. ACPS said my kid could stay at the school we've been with for 5 years. Now theyre saying otherwise. That's gross.

You are naive. Rules change all the time. If you wanted better grandfathering rules where were you during the discussions? Apparently not paying attention.

And what's gross to me is that I have no doubt in my mind you outwardly are very liberal and are the first in line to donate for the coat drive, the food drive, and any other drive or donation for poor kids but you can't subject your child to actually being in class with poor kids or worse having to get to know the poor kid's parents.

So many assumptions and a good dose of unhinged on the side.

You know nothing about my involvement (extensive) or my finances (not extensive) or my political leanings (very right of center).

Shouldn't a person like you be out spending your husband's money?

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Anonymous wrote:What if all the kids in a family are at a school because of administrative transfers? They all move?

Yes, unless they will be rising 4th or 5th graders this summer.

I have a rising 4th grader so his 1st grade sister can stay as long as he's there, which is one year.

My neighbors, however, have just one kid and since she's a 2nd grader, she's getting the boot.

This is how idiotic and sloppy the school board was with the grandfathering process. They created situations where literal next door neighbors are treated disparately.

You created a situation where you live in a neighborhood where no one wants to go to their zoned school. It was just some good luck in that situation that you and your neighbor were transferred to the same school outside of your zoned school in the first place. Not always the case.

Umm, I didn't create anything. ACPS offers a variety of transfers to families that seek them. I took advantage of that offer and now theyre trying to change the rules.

They're not trying to change the rules. They are changing the rules. Which anyone with any sense should have and could have seen coming for at least the past 5 years, if not more. Because what ACPS was doing was not sustainable. So relying on the deck of cards is fine, but don't be shocked when it falls.

Call me naive, but I believe in contracts and promises. ACPS said my kid could stay at the school we've been with for 5 years. Now theyre saying otherwise. That's gross.

You are naive. Rules change all the time. If you wanted better grandfathering rules where were you during the discussions? Apparently not paying attention.

And what's gross to me is that I have no doubt in my mind you outwardly are very liberal and are the first in line to donate for the coat drive, the food drive, and any other drive or donation for poor kids but you can't subject your child to actually being in class with poor kids or worse having to get to know the poor kid's parents.

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Speaking of naivety, only an idiot would believe ACPS would shit upon the families most active in their kid's education (eg parents of admin transfers)

What are you talking about? At the better-regarded ACPS schools, the parents of kids with admin transfers are no more active in their kids' education than the affluent parents who actually live in the attendance zone.

My point is that the population of kids described in the OP- kids under transfers, but now rezoned- account, for something infinitesimally small. I know that at my kid's school there are seven in the entire school. Seven

Is that an amount that should make entire families uproot lives and start over somewhere else? Not in most people's opinion.

Even at the smallest schools in the system that number is smaller than the fluctuation in student population one would experience just through home sales in the attendance zone.

That's yet another way the SB was short sighted. They made decisions that really don't alter the system at all but have huge impacts on families. They should have originally fully grandfathered everyone currently enrolled. Worst case scenario would be 20-30 kids attending the 'wrong' school for 5 years. Here we are year three into the redistricting process and they don't even have the new school yet. But GD it, we gotta get rid of those seven kids!!!

Imbecilic.

I'd bet they delay implementation yet another year if I had to guess.

Anonymous wrote:Lots of anger in here. Weird.

OP, just apply for an admin transfer for your youngest when the time comes.

A little bird deep within ACPS told me they will be granting all of them from families such as yours.

Speaking of naivety, only an idiot would believe ACPS would shit upon the families most active in their kid's education (eg parents of admin transfers)

And FWIW, I have two kids with transfers and I'm neither white nor wealthy. But, I will call out that poster's racism.

TIL= doing the best for your kid is oppressing the POC.

This quote is exactly what's wrong with ACPS. Why send out OP's original letter without clarification then? Some get insider information, others don't? What the heck ACPS?

Speaking of naivety, only an idiot would believe ACPS would shit upon the families most active in their kid's education (eg parents of admin transfers)

What are you talking about? At the better-regarded ACPS schools, the parents of kids with admin transfers are no more active in their kids' education than the affluent parents who actually live in the attendance zone.

Lots of anger in here. Weird.

OP, just apply for an admin transfer for your youngest when the time comes. A little bird deep within ACPS told me they will be granting all of them from families such as yours. Speaking of naivety, only an idiot would believe ACPS would shit upon the families most active in their kid's education (eg parents of admin transfers)

And FWIW, I have two kids with transfers and I'm neither white nor wealthy. But, I will call out that poster's racism.

TIL= doing the best for your kid is oppressing the POC.

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Leave aside issues of transfers and grandfathering. Public school districts redraw boundaries all the time out of necessity. There is no promise or contract of anything. It's a public school system. You bought a house in a public school system

So do 100% of my fellow Americans! If an increasingly poor school system with shifting sand on boundaries is what we get here in Alexandria City, then why move here to begin with? Many local buyers simply will not. Are we stupid or something? Come on!

I think you are maybe attempting to be funny. Ha.

Boundaries move everywhere. All the time. Talk to people who live in other school districts in this area. When I was a kid, I went to three elementary schools in 6 years while living in the same house. (In an entirely different area.)

I don't believe most people buy a home thinking the schools they are zoned to in that moment are set in stone for the next 13+ years. You should buy into a school system you generally feel comfortable with.

Leave aside issues of transfers and grandfathering. Public school districts redraw boundaries all the time out of necessity. There is no promise or contract of anything. It's a public school system. You bought a house in a public school system

So do 100% of my fellow Americans! If an increasingly poor school system with shifting sand on boundaries is what we get here in Alexandria City, then why move here to begin with? Many local buyers simply will not. Are we stupid or something? Come on!

All Admin transfers w/o an older sibling must leave their current school at the end of this year. Programmatic transfers are, inexplicably, permitted to stay.


This is simply not true, you have misunderstood the letter or misunderstand what an administrative transfer is/means. See this link: https://www.acps.k12.va.us/cms/lib/VA01918616/Cent...hool-board-policies/jce-r.pdf. If the child has a previously-approved admin transfer, they will not be required to move. This conforms with the information that we got in the mail from my child's school (Maury).


That's me. Correct. If they were an edit feature I'd amend. It should read "..sibling transfers with an older sibling..

But, that you and are are discussing it is point enough. Why should some kids get forced out while others aren't? It's, by definition, unfair.

Perhaps, but life is not fair. If you ask any of the kids in the "better" regarded ACPS elementary schools who qualify for FARMS or blessings in a backpack and are in classes with kids whose parents are signing the up for expensive camps, afterschool enrichment programs, sports lessons etc., they could have easily told you that.

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Anonymous wrote:What if all the kids in a family are at a school because of administrative transfers? They all move?

Yes, unless they will be rising 4th or 5th graders this summer.

I have a rising 4th grader so his 1st grade sister can stay as long as he's there, which is one year.

My neighbors, however, have just one kid and since she's a 2nd grader, she's getting the boot.

This is how idiotic and sloppy the school board was with the grandfathering process. They created situations where literal next door neighbors are treated disparately.

You created a situation where you live in a neighborhood where no one wants to go to their zoned school. It was just some good luck in that situation that you and your neighbor were transferred to the same school outside of your zoned school in the first place. Not always the case.

Umm, I didn't create anything. ACPS offers a variety of transfers to families that seek them. I took advantage of that offer and now theyre trying to change the rules.

They're not trying to change the rules. They are changing the rules. Which anyone with any sense should have and could have seen coming for at least the past 5 years, if not more. Because what ACPS was doing was not sustainable. So relying on the deck of cards is fine, but don't be shocked when it falls.

Call me naive, but I believe in contracts and promises. ACPS said my kid could stay at the school we've been with for 5 years. Now theyre saying otherwise. That's gross.

Did you sign a contract with ACPS saying that your child could complete all grades at your elementary school? Did someone promise this to you in writing? I would be shocked if anyone even promised it to you verbally. Who could make such a promise in any public school system?

Leave aside issues of transfers and grandfathering. Public school districts redraw boundaries all the time out of necessity. There is no promise or contract of anything. It's a public school system. You bought a house in a public school system.

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Anonymous wrote:What if all the kids in a family are at a school because of administrative transfers? They all move?

Yes, unless they will be rising 4th or 5th graders this summer.

I have a rising 4th grader so his 1st grade sister can stay as long as he's there, which is one year.

My neighbors, however, have just one kid and since she's a 2nd grader, she's getting the boot.

This is how idiotic and sloppy the school board was with the grandfathering process. They created situations where literal next door neighbors are treated disparately.

You created a situation where you live in a neighborhood where no one wants to go to their zoned school. It was just some good luck in that situation that you and your neighbor were transferred to the same school outside of your zoned school in the first place. Not always the case.

Umm, I didn't create anything. ACPS offers a variety of transfers to families that seek them. I took advantage of that offer and now theyre trying to change the rules.

They're not trying to change the rules. They are changing the rules. Which anyone with any sense should have and could have seen coming for at least the past 5 years, if not more. Because what ACPS was doing was not sustainable. So relying on the deck of cards is fine, but don't be shocked when it falls.

Call me naive, but I believe in contracts and promises. ACPS said my kid could stay at the school we've been with for 5 years. Now theyre saying otherwise. That's gross.

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Anonymous wrote:What if all the kids in a family are at a school because of administrative transfers? They all move?

Yes, unless they will be rising 4th or 5th graders this summer.

I have a rising 4th grader so his 1st grade sister can stay as long as he's there, which is one year.

My neighbors, however, have just one kid and since she's a 2nd grader, she's getting the boot.

This is how idiotic and sloppy the school board was with the grandfathering process. They created situations where literal next door neighbors are treated disparately.

You created a situation where you live in a neighborhood where no one wants to go to their zoned school. It was just some good luck in that situation that you and your neighbor were transferred to the same school outside of your zoned school in the first place. Not always the case.

Umm, I didn't create anything. ACPS offers a variety of transfers to families that seek them. I took advantage of that offer and now theyre trying to change the rules.

They're not trying to change the rules. They are changing the rules. Which anyone with any sense should have and could have seen coming for at least the past 5 years, if not more. Because what ACPS was doing was not sustainable. So relying on the deck of cards is fine, but don't be shocked when it falls.

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All Admin transfers w/o an older sibling must leave their current school at the end of this year. Programmatic transfers are, inexplicably, permitted to stay.

This is simply not true, you have misunderstood the letter or misunderstand what an administrative transfer is/means. See this link: https://www.acps.k12.va.us/cms/lib/VA01918616/Centricity/Shared/documents/school-board-policies/jce-r.pdf. If the child has a previously-approved admin transfer, they will not be required to move. This conforms with the information that we got in the mail from my child's school (Maury).

That's me. Correct. If they were an edit feature I'd amend. It should read "..sibling transfers with an older sibling..

But, that you and are are discussing it is point enough. Why should some kids get forced out while others aren't? It's, by definition, unfair.