Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here, my 2 year old also has focus and eye contact/pointing problem now. He is suspicious of ASD, but no diagnosis yet. I am also suspicious that my hubby was on ASD or Inattentive ADHD when he was small, and for some reason, without therapy/medication, all the symptoms have disappeared throughout the years.

You don't outgrow ASD.

that's not really true. We do know that a lot of ASD diagnoses when made at 2 are "lost." It's fairer to say that ASD is a big spectrum, and you can't always tell at 2 where a child will be on that spectrum.

Then they were misdiagnosed.

It is good that you are seeing specialists and working on it. It might be the he is a late bloomer, but better safe than sorry.

Anonymous wrote:OP here, my 2 year old also has focus and eye contact/pointing problem now. He is suspicious of ASD, but no diagnosis yet. I am also suspicious that my hubby was on ASD or Inattentive ADHD when he was small, and for some reason, without therapy/medication, all the symptoms have disappeared throughout the years.

While that does happen in some cases, if he did have ASD or ADHD, it's likely he would have some residual symptoms, but they are within the normal range, so they look like personality quirks rather than a disorder. Like is he unusually quiet, easily distractable, or have a hobby that he is really engaged in?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here, my 2 year old also has focus and eye contact/pointing problem now. He is suspicious of ASD, but no diagnosis yet. I am also suspicious that my hubby was on ASD or Inattentive ADHD when he was small, and for some reason, without therapy/medication, all the symptoms have disappeared throughout the years.

You don't outgrow ASD.

that's not really true. We do know that a lot of ASD diagnoses when made at 2 are "lost." It's fairer to say that ASD is a big spectrum, and you can't always tell at 2 where a child will be on that spectrum.

OP, I'm in a very similar situation. My DS has delays, and everyone says he's EXACTLY like my DH was as a child. So there's a big familial component, and there's every reason to believe my DS will catch up in the important ways.

However, times are VERY different now than they were in the 70s. School (even kindergarten) is more demanding, and we have a lot of ways to help kids that we didn't in the past. So even though my kid may just be a "late bloomer," I'm definitely taking advantage of all the support and therapies that will help him.

Another motivation is that I think my DH has in fact suffered from his undiagnosed/unsupported issues. I think my DS deserve a happier childhood than DH had -- for example, to be able to learn how to swim instead of never learning due to motor skill issues and sensory issues. Social skills are another big one. The family laughs about what "loner" DH was as a kid; I'm not willing to just let my DS have no friends without trying whatever interventions might work.

If your in laws are pressuring you or making you feel guilty for "labeling" your child, just ignore them. Your responsibility as a mom is to help your child NOW, not to parent your child as if you only had the resources of 1975.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. No, my 2 year old is not interested in talking at all even though he understands a lot of instructions. He loves pretend play (e.g. cook kitchen, play pranks, and use screwdriver on any screws) & any physical activities (e.g. climbing, kick ball, running). He is a happy, social & active boy, and not talking does not frustrate him at all.

I checked cdc 2 year old milestone, he fails the following:

Language/Communication:

Points to things or pictures when they are named
Knows names of familiar people and body parts
Says sentences with 2 to 4 words
Repeats words overheard in conversation
Points to things in a book

Cognitive (learning, thinking, problem-solving):

Completes sentences and rhymes in familiar books
Names items in a picture book such as a cat, bird, or dog

Movement/Physical Development:

Makes or copies straight lines and circles

It looks really bad, right?

OP, stop this. Again, how was the delay "diagnosed"? by child find or the pediatrician? I doubt the ped said there was a cognitive delay.

The milestones you think he is missing cognitively are speech related. Many of our kids have fine motor issues. And he is two. Just two. You already know he is delayed so I don't understand why reiterating how "bad" it looks is helpful. Kids with delays make progress, and it is likely some of these delays will abate. You just have to take it one step at a time, like all of us.

OP here. To explain, Infant & toddler program evaluated him a couple months ago, and told me he had social & emotional delay, expressive & receptive language delay & cognitive delay by 30-50% delay of each categories. He failed the mchat test, was referred to children hospital for evaluation by his pediatrician. Children hospital's developmental pediatrician evaluated him 2 months ago, and suspicious of ASD, no official diagnosis yet but need to do a follow up every couple months. So, every professionals tell me that he has delay.

It doesn't sound that bad. Lot's of kids have delays then they catch up, as your husband did. They throw a lot of statistics and diagnoses at you that make things sound worse than they really are. Monitoring and symptom-based intervention is the best you can do right now. Try not to worry about it so much. It doesn't help you or your son.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. No, my 2 year old is not interested in talking at all even though he understands a lot of instructions. He loves pretend play (e.g. cook kitchen, play pranks, and use screwdriver on any screws) & any physical activities (e.g. climbing, kick ball, running). He is a happy, social & active boy, and not talking does not frustrate him at all.

I checked cdc 2 year old milestone, he fails the following:

Language/Communication:

Points to things or pictures when they are named
Knows names of familiar people and body parts
Says sentences with 2 to 4 words
Repeats words overheard in conversation
Points to things in a book

Cognitive (learning, thinking, problem-solving):

Completes sentences and rhymes in familiar books
Names items in a picture book such as a cat, bird, or dog

Movement/Physical Development:

Makes or copies straight lines and circles

It looks really bad, right?

OP, stop this. Again, how was the delay "diagnosed"? by child find or the pediatrician? I doubt the ped said there was a cognitive delay.

The milestones you think he is missing cognitively are speech related. Many of our kids have fine motor issues. And he is two. Just two. You already know he is delayed so I don't understand why reiterating how "bad" it looks is helpful. Kids with delays make progress, and it is likely some of these delays will abate. You just have to take it one step at a time, like all of us.

OP here. To explain, Infant & toddler program evaluated him a couple months ago, and told me he had social & emotional delay, expressive & receptive language delay & cognitive delay by 30-50% delay of each categories. He failed the mchat test, was referred to children hospital for evaluation by his pediatrician. Children hospital's developmental pediatrician evaluated him 2 months ago, and suspicious of ASD, no official diagnosis yet but need to do a follow up every couple months. So, every professionals tell me that he has delay.

Well, you are doing all you can. We none of us have a crystal ball and we can't diagnose over the internet. I will tell you that I was told my child had all of the same delays at 2, but not ASD - he has made huge strides in speech, behavior became a bigger problem later, and while we suspect he may have a low average IQ, we know he is not likely intellectually disabled (at 4, he can read many words, do basic math, dress/feed/clean himself, etc., ride a bike, etc.).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. No, my 2 year old is not interested in talking at all even though he understands a lot of instructions. He loves pretend play (e.g. cook kitchen, play pranks, and use screwdriver on any screws) & any physical activities (e.g. climbing, kick ball, running). He is a happy, social & active boy, and not talking does not frustrate him at all.

I checked cdc 2 year old milestone, he fails the following:

Language/Communication:

Points to things or pictures when they are named
Knows names of familiar people and body parts
Says sentences with 2 to 4 words
Repeats words overheard in conversation
Points to things in a book

Cognitive (learning, thinking, problem-solving):

Completes sentences and rhymes in familiar books
Names items in a picture book such as a cat, bird, or dog

Movement/Physical Development:

Makes or copies straight lines and circles

It looks really bad, right?

My 28 months old son is similar to yours! may be we should meet in person!

Go to a good pediatrician and ask for advice. They take a while, but set up an appointment at Childrens or at Strong Start if in DC https://osse.dc.gov/service/strong-start-dc-early-intervention-program-dc-eip - or most counties have something comparable - vs. trying to find answers on DCUM. I have gotten some very helpful special needs advice on this board, but it is full of a range of informed and uninformed and people coming with perspectives ... Age 2 is really young. If he is interacting with people fairly well, that would seem to indicate ruling out a lot of things or extremes of things if that's reassurance -- but if you have a gut sense something is up, set up the appointments and then cancel if there's nothing there. My niece didn't speak until two and then spoke in full sentences. Neither of my kids could draw a good circle until at least three. Etc. The only caveat is sometimes if you go to specialist, they find what they are looking for (and we for instance, went to one evaluator who scared the crap out of us with all sorts of extreme things, and it basically in the end was my son had some motor planning and coordination stuff that is mostly manageable).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. No, my 2 year old is not interested in talking at all even though he understands a lot of instructions. He loves pretend play (e.g. cook kitchen, play pranks, and use screwdriver on any screws) & any physical activities (e.g. climbing, kick ball, running). He is a happy, social & active boy, and not talking does not frustrate him at all.

I checked cdc 2 year old milestone, he fails the following:

Language/Communication:

Points to things or pictures when they are named
Knows names of familiar people and body parts
Says sentences with 2 to 4 words
Repeats words overheard in conversation
Points to things in a book

Cognitive (learning, thinking, problem-solving):

Completes sentences and rhymes in familiar books
Names items in a picture book such as a cat, bird, or dog

Movement/Physical Development:

Makes or copies straight lines and circles

It looks really bad, right?

OP, stop this. Again, how was the delay "diagnosed"? by child find or the pediatrician? I doubt the ped said there was a cognitive delay.

The milestones you think he is missing cognitively are speech related. Many of our kids have fine motor issues. And he is two. Just two. You already know he is delayed so I don't understand why reiterating how "bad" it looks is helpful. Kids with delays make progress, and it is likely some of these delays will abate. You just have to take it one step at a time, like all of us.

OP here. To explain, Infant & toddler program evaluated him a couple months ago, and told me he had social & emotional delay, expressive & receptive language delay & cognitive delay by 30-50% delay of each categories. He failed the mchat test, was referred to children hospital for evaluation by his pediatrician. Children hospital's developmental pediatrician evaluated him 2 months ago, and suspicious of ASD, no official diagnosis yet but need to do a follow up every couple months. So, every professionals tell me that he has delay.

Anonymous wrote:OP here. No, my 2 year old is not interested in talking at all even though he understands a lot of instructions. He loves pretend play (e.g. cook kitchen, play pranks, and use screwdriver on any screws) & any physical activities (e.g. climbing, kick ball, running). He is a happy, social & active boy, and not talking does not frustrate him at all.

I checked cdc 2 year old milestone, he fails the following:

Language/Communication:

Points to things or pictures when they are named
Knows names of familiar people and body parts
Says sentences with 2 to 4 words
Repeats words overheard in conversation
Points to things in a book

Cognitive (learning, thinking, problem-solving):

Completes sentences and rhymes in familiar books
Names items in a picture book such as a cat, bird, or dog

Movement/Physical Development:

Makes or copies straight lines and circles

It looks really bad, right?

My 28 months old son is similar to yours! may be we should meet in person!

Anonymous wrote:OP here. No, my 2 year old is not interested in talking at all even though he understands a lot of instructions. He loves pretend play (e.g. cook kitchen, play pranks, and use screwdriver on any screws) & any physical activities (e.g. climbing, kick ball, running). He is a happy, social & active boy, and not talking does not frustrate him at all.

I checked cdc 2 year old milestone, he fails the following:

Language/Communication:

Points to things or pictures when they are named
Knows names of familiar people and body parts
Says sentences with 2 to 4 words
Repeats words overheard in conversation
Points to things in a book

Cognitive (learning, thinking, problem-solving):

Completes sentences and rhymes in familiar books
Names items in a picture book such as a cat, bird, or dog

Movement/Physical Development:

Makes or copies straight lines and circles

It looks really bad, right?

If he's socially typical, he's not autistic.

Anonymous wrote:OP here. No, my 2 year old is not interested in talking at all even though he understands a lot of instructions. He loves pretend play (e.g. cook kitchen, play pranks, and use screwdriver on any screws) & any physical activities (e.g. climbing, kick ball, running). He is a happy, social & active boy, and not talking does not frustrate him at all.

I checked cdc 2 year old milestone, he fails the following:

Language/Communication:

Points to things or pictures when they are named
Knows names of familiar people and body parts
Says sentences with 2 to 4 words
Repeats words overheard in conversation
Points to things in a book

Cognitive (learning, thinking, problem-solving):

Completes sentences and rhymes in familiar books
Names items in a picture book such as a cat, bird, or dog

Movement/Physical Development:

Makes or copies straight lines and circles

It looks really bad, right?

OP, stop this. Again, how was the delay "diagnosed"? by child find or the pediatrician? I doubt the ped said there was a cognitive delay.

The milestones you think he is missing cognitively are speech related. Many of our kids have fine motor issues. And he is two. Just two. You already know he is delayed so I don't understand why reiterating how "bad" it looks is helpful. Kids with delays make progress, and it is likely some of these delays will abate. You just have to take it one step at a time, like all of us.

OP here. No, my 2 year old is not interested in talking at all even though he understands a lot of instructions. He loves pretend play (e.g. cook kitchen, play pranks, and use screwdriver on any screws) & any physical activities (e.g. climbing, kick ball, running). He is a happy, social & active boy, and not talking does not frustrate him at all.

I checked cdc 2 year old milestone, he fails the following:

Language/Communication:

Points to things or pictures when they are named
Knows names of familiar people and body parts
Says sentences with 2 to 4 words
Repeats words overheard in conversation
Points to things in a book

Cognitive (learning, thinking, problem-solving):

Completes sentences and rhymes in familiar books
Names items in a picture book such as a cat, bird, or dog

Movement/Physical Development:

Makes or copies straight lines and circles

It looks really bad, right?

This sounds like my seven year old who never stops talking and is way ahead of his peers in math and on target in reading. He did get special services in preschool years (two days a week, public school). I doubt it made much difference. He was just a late bloomer.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here, my 2 year old also has focus and eye contact/pointing problem now. He is suspicious of ASD, but no diagnosis yet. I am also suspicious that my hubby was on ASD or Inattentive ADHD when he was small, and for some reason, without therapy/medication, all the symptoms have disappeared throughout the years.

You don't outgrow ASD.

This, you can outgrow a language disorder or be successful in living with it and sometimes kid with language disorders have eye contact/pointing concerns especially if they have receptive issues. If they disappeared it is not ASD. Its very hard to tell with a two year old. Given the family concerns of language issues, I'd supplement with private speech.

You don't outgrow language disorders either. There are plenty of successful adults on the spectrum.

In terms of private speech, see how early intervention services go, op.

Actually, I know of multiple children who outgrew a language disorder. Their receptive language simply came in at a different pace, sometimes not until after kindergarten.

Okay. We know that your Facebook group tells you this. You don’t have to insert this on every thread. You really need a new job or a hobby.