Anonymous
Post 11/28/2017 10:22     Subject: Re:The MAIN reason Trump won - low-paying jobs, part-time jobs
I get that people believed the hype during the campaign. The Dems did a poor job of messaging generally.

However, Trump and the GOPs in Congress have done very little to help the MC and LC people that bought into the talk during the campaign. In fact, the two major pieces of legislation (healthcare and taxes) and the regulatory changes that have been "championed" by Trump and the GOP will harm those folks like OP. Yet, they double down and defend him. I can understand voting for him based on the promises he made. What I am confused about is now that he has shown his hand, those same people still think they are a priority for him.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2017 10:12     Subject: The MAIN reason Trump won - low-paying jobs, part-time jobs
Anonymous wrote:Most people are living paycheck-to-paycheck. I know I am. I make $85,000/year but I take home $59,950 AFTER TAXES and Social Security. So I am struggling to get by. I have over $30,000 in student loans and I live with 4 roommates. Even if I were making 6 figures, I'd get killed in taxes.

My income bracket is like the top 30 percent for a single male, which is incredibly sad. I know lots of folks my age struggling to find good employment. Employers are taking advantage of the poor economy by creating "internships" that pay peanuts and "part-time gigs" so as to avoid paying for healthcare.

I mean, most of the jobs created now are Uber jobs and Amazon warehouse jobs. Not exactly the type of jobs needed to make a living. And if you "get educated" and "learn skills", you will still get penalized during TAX SEASON!

So I get why folks voted Trump. The economy sucks. Hillary didn't offer any solutions to fix the economy. Trump made his campaign specifically about JOBS! JOBS! JOBS! I completely understand why people fell for this mad man. Yes, he's a mad man and a moron but the economy has improved and stock market is up... so I am rethinking my opinion about him.


Trump has been President for nearly a year, has your job situation improved yet?

Hillary did have a plan to improve the economy and create good jobs, but you didn't want to hear that because it didn't fit with what you wanted the truth to be.

We earn a very healthy six figures and yes we pay a lot in taxes, but they are hardly "killing" us. We still live a very nice lifestyle.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2017 09:50     Subject: Re:The MAIN reason Trump won - low-paying jobs, part-time jobs
Anonymous wrote:The average Trump voter was pretty wealthy. They did not need jobs.

This thread smells like reheated propaganda.

Something Mueller this way comes, eh?
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2017 09:35     Subject: Re:The MAIN reason Trump won - low-paying jobs, part-time jobs
The average Trump voter was pretty wealthy. They did not need jobs.

This thread smells like reheated propaganda.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2017 09:32     Subject: The MAIN reason Trump won - low-paying jobs, part-time jobs
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most people are living paycheck-to-paycheck. I know I am. I make $85,000/year but I take home $59,950 AFTER TAXES and Social Security. So I am struggling to get by. I have over $30,000 in student loans and I live with 4 roommates. Even if I were making 6 figures, I'd get killed in taxes.

My income bracket is like the top 30 percent for a single male, which is incredibly sad. I know lots of folks my age struggling to find good employment. Employers are taking advantage of the poor economy by creating "internships" that pay peanuts and "part-time gigs" so as to avoid paying for healthcare.

I mean, most of the jobs created now are Uber jobs and Amazon warehouse jobs. Not exactly the type of jobs needed to make a living. And if you "get educated" and "learn skills", you will still get penalized during TAX SEASON!

So I get why folks voted Trump. The economy sucks. Hillary didn't offer any solutions to fix the economy. Trump made his campaign specifically about JOBS! JOBS! JOBS! I completely understand why people fell for this mad man. Yes, he's a mad man and a moron but the economy has improved and stock market is up... so I am rethinking my opinion about him.


Wow you make a ton more money than my brother who cobbles together a living from several part-time jobs. He hates Trump and all his crooked billionaire cabinet members who are out to plunder America to enrich themselves more.


My sister and BIL didn’t vote for Hillary because they saw how she filled her coffers and got rich off the backs of Americans - and left our Kent to die.



Guess they must REALLY hate Trump and his cabinet then, huh?


Trump filled his inner circle and cabinet with corrupt, out-of-touch, insanely wealthy people who think you can buy a car or remodel your kitchen for $1000. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/gary-cohn-trump-tax-reform-cost-new-car-home-improvement-a7974731.html
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2017 09:28     Subject: Re:The MAIN reason Trump won - low-paying jobs, part-time jobs
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:True. It's the economy, stupid.


Can you imagine a single mother working 10 hours a week at two part-time jobs, working her a$$ off to feed her 2 kids, and watching Hillary during the debate say Trump said mean things! and Trump is a racist!

And at the same time she hears Trump say he'll create more GOOD-PAYING jobs.

I'm pretty sure this single mother's listening will find Trump more appealing because she feels he's talking directly to her and her needs.

Did you mean 10 hours a DAY?

And unemployment is down under Trump, the lowest in 17 years. I believe I heard it's below 4%, which is considered "full employment." That's showing up in food stamp usage, too, which is down after a big uptick under Obama. Business is booming.

The jobs created under Obama were largely part-time, too, and that was in response to Obamacare regulations. He unwittingly created a disincentive to bringing on full-time staff. So you ended up with more people like your single mother example, struggling with two PT jobs, and where neither pay benefits.


Not under 4% yet - the last official report was 4.1%. But unemployment has been on a steady and consistent decline since 2010. There's no inflection point in the data from when Trump took office, it's all just a consistent continued trend from Obama. https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

Trump has done nothing meaningful to create additional jobs. He did a few things like repeal regulations that kept coal mining companies from dumping toxic mining waste into rivers but that has only produced a few hundred jobs. At the expense of polluted rivers. Wages as a percentage of gross domestic income has been doing up since 2013 after years of steady decline, but Trump and the GOP are now fighting any attempt to raise wages tooth and nail. I'd like to see some evidence to support your notion that they want to raise wages.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2017 09:13     Subject: The MAIN reason Trump won - low-paying jobs, part-time jobs
A record number of 20 somethings are living in their parents basements because they can't find jobs - even after graduating from college.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2017 07:48     Subject: The MAIN reason Trump won - low-paying jobs, part-time jobs
I doubt OP's veracity. We get treated to one of these moronic lying threads several times a day. Actually, far and away atrump voters did so from fear of immigrants and brown people.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2017 07:40     Subject: The MAIN reason Trump won - low-paying jobs, part-time jobs
Anonymous wrote:Who the heck is Kent and how did Hillary leave him to die?

I'm thinking it's a weird autocorrect. She probably meant one of the Benghazi victims.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2017 07:39     Subject: The MAIN reason Trump won - low-paying jobs, part-time jobs
Who the heck is Kent and how did Hillary leave him to die?
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2017 07:35     Subject: Re:The MAIN reason Trump won - low-paying jobs, part-time jobs
Anonymous wrote:If you're "struggling" on a net income of $5000/month maybe you need to look at your spending habits. There's no reason why you shouldn't be able to take a good chunk out of your student loan debt every month. Look at website like Dave Ramsey's or Bogleheads on personal finance and take control of your money. You could even post on the Money board on this website and get some advice.

Your post makes you sound like a victim, when, even as you admit, you're doing better than most. Take advantage of that. If you live a little more frugally for a while OP you'd put yourself in a much better position.

+ 1 I live really well with a take-home of $4600. I don't get these people (without children) who claim they can't make it on $5k unless they live with a flock of roommates. You can get a decent apartment for $1500, and that leaves $3,500 for everything else.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2017 07:33     Subject: The MAIN reason Trump won - low-paying jobs, part-time jobs
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most people are living paycheck-to-paycheck. I know I am. I make $85,000/year but I take home $59,950 AFTER TAXES and Social Security. So I am struggling to get by. I have over $30,000 in student loans and I live with 4 roommates. Even if I were making 6 figures, I'd get killed in taxes.

My income bracket is like the top 30 percent for a single male, which is incredibly sad. I know lots of folks my age struggling to find good employment. Employers are taking advantage of the poor economy by creating "internships" that pay peanuts and "part-time gigs" so as to avoid paying for healthcare.

I mean, most of the jobs created now are Uber jobs and Amazon warehouse jobs. Not exactly the type of jobs needed to make a living. And if you "get educated" and "learn skills", you will still get penalized during TAX SEASON!

So I get why folks voted Trump. The economy sucks. Hillary didn't offer any solutions to fix the economy. Trump made his campaign specifically about JOBS! JOBS! JOBS! I completely understand why people fell for this mad man. Yes, he's a mad man and a moron but the economy has improved and stock market is up... so I am rethinking my opinion about him.


Wow you make a ton more money than my brother who cobbles together a living from several part-time jobs. He hates Trump and all his crooked billionaire cabinet members who are out to plunder America to enrich themselves more.


My sister and BIL didn’t vote for Hillary because they saw how she filled her coffers and got rich off the backs of Americans - and left our Kent to die.



Guess they must REALLY hate Trump and his cabinet then, huh?
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2017 07:31     Subject: The MAIN reason Trump won - low-paying jobs, part-time jobs
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most people are living paycheck-to-paycheck. I know I am. I make $85,000/year but I take home $59,950 AFTER TAXES and Social Security. So I am struggling to get by. I have over $30,000 in student loans and I live with 4 roommates. Even if I were making 6 figures, I'd get killed in taxes.

My income bracket is like the top 30 percent for a single male, which is incredibly sad. I know lots of folks my age struggling to find good employment. Employers are taking advantage of the poor economy by creating "internships" that pay peanuts and "part-time gigs" so as to avoid paying for healthcare.

I mean, most of the jobs created now are Uber jobs and Amazon warehouse jobs. Not exactly the type of jobs needed to make a living. And if you "get educated" and "learn skills", you will still get penalized during TAX SEASON!

So I get why folks voted Trump. The economy sucks. Hillary didn't offer any solutions to fix the economy. Trump made his campaign specifically about JOBS! JOBS! JOBS! I completely understand why people fell for this mad man. Yes, he's a mad man and a moron but the economy has improved and stock market is up... so I am rethinking my opinion about him.


Wow you make a ton more money than my brother who cobbles together a living from several part-time jobs. He hates Trump and all his crooked billionaire cabinet members who are out to plunder America to enrich themselves more.


My sister and BIL didn’t vote for Hillary because they saw how she filled her coffers and got rich off the backs of Americans - and left our Kent to die.


Who is Kent?
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2017 07:31     Subject: Re:The MAIN reason Trump won - low-paying jobs, part-time jobs
If you're "struggling" on a net income of $5000/month maybe you need to look at your spending habits. There's no reason why you shouldn't be able to take a good chunk out of your student loan debt every month. Look at website like Dave Ramsey's or Bogleheads on personal finance and take control of your money. You could even post on the Money board on this website and get some advice.

Your post makes you sound like a victim, when, even as you admit, you're doing better than most. Take advantage of that. If you live a little more frugally for a while OP you'd put yourself in a much better position.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2017 07:30     Subject: The MAIN reason Trump won - low-paying jobs, part-time jobs
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most people are living paycheck-to-paycheck. I know I am. I make $85,000/year but I take home $59,950 AFTER TAXES and Social Security. So I am struggling to get by. I have over $30,000 in student loans and I live with 4 roommates. Even if I were making 6 figures, I'd get killed in taxes.

My income bracket is like the top 30 percent for a single male, which is incredibly sad. I know lots of folks my age struggling to find good employment. Employers are taking advantage of the poor economy by creating "internships" that pay peanuts and "part-time gigs" so as to avoid paying for healthcare.

I mean, most of the jobs created now are Uber jobs and Amazon warehouse jobs. Not exactly the type of jobs needed to make a living. And if you "get educated" and "learn skills", you will still get penalized during TAX SEASON!

So I get why folks voted Trump. The economy sucks. Hillary didn't offer any solutions to fix the economy. Trump made his campaign specifically about JOBS! JOBS! JOBS! I completely understand why people fell for this mad man. Yes, he's a mad man and a moron but the economy has improved and stock market is up... so I am rethinking my opinion about him.


Wow you make a ton more money than my brother who cobbles together a living from several part-time jobs. He hates Trump and all his crooked billionaire cabinet members who are out to plunder America to enrich themselves more.


My sister and BIL didn’t vote for Hillary because they saw how she filled her coffers and got rich off the backs of Americans - and left our Kent to die.