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Anonymous wrote:NP here - I'm curious - if Brent, Maury, and SWS don't feed into SH which school(s) do they feed into? And if by chance they all feed into the same school, then why the concern about them having to feed into SH in order to make it better. Surely, if they all fed into the same MS then that MS would improve quite quickly given all the high SES families at those three schools?

Here are the DCPS feeder patterns https://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/publication/attachments/SY17-18%20School%20Feeder%20Patterns.pdf

Maury and SWS feed to Eliot Hine

Brent feeds to Jefferson

Anonymous wrote:NP here - I'm curious - if Brent, Maury, and SWS don't feed into SH which school(s) do they feed into? And if by chance they all feed into the same school, then why the concern about them having to feed into SH in order to make it better. Surely, if they all fed into the same MS then that MS would improve quite quickly given all the high SES families at those three schools?

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Anonymous wrote:Improving, right, but, as has been said, turning SH into a Deal, or even a Hardy, is a 10-20 year project without Brent, Maury and SWS when it could have been a 3-5 year project.

Many of us on the Hill are fed up with losing dear friends to the burbs because Hill schools aren't attractive to most in-boundary families after elementary. Many of us feel that DCPS made a terrible mistake four years ago in refusing to respond to high local demand for a change in the Ward 6 middle school elementary-to-middle school feed situation.

I'm in-bounds for SH and won't enroll my child in a couple years on current trends, like most of our friends. Our children are well-behaved students who easily score 5s on both PARCC sections. Arguably, SH won't be better off without us.

Christ, it's been said by YOU about 1000 times on any SH related post. Give it a rest.

We got it -- you're going elsewhere. From your condescending tone alone I can promise you that you would not be missed at SH.

+1. Didn't Ludlow-Taylor have comparable scores with Brent last year? At the time the feeders were determined (2009/10) both JOW and LT had higher average DCCAS (yes, I know about erase-to-the-top st LT) and are closer proximity-wise to SH. SH has to have Watkins in the feeder for the sheer numbers, I believe plus it is still the core of the Cluster. People also forget that there was a separate effort around making Brent the feeder to Jefferson including possibly resuscitating the academies there with the then promise of the feed on to Wilson for high school.

We sent one child to SH in-bounds, and then on to Walls, upper-MC/high SES, educated family. We are still in touch with a number of fellow SH families.

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Anonymous wrote:Improving, right, but, as has been said, turning SH into a Deal, or even a Hardy, is a 10-20 year project without Brent, Maury and SWS when it could have been a 3-5 year project.

Many of us on the Hill are fed up with losing dear friends to the burbs because Hill schools aren't attractive to most in-boundary families after elementary. Many of us feel that DCPS made a terrible mistake four years ago in refusing to respond to high local demand for a change in the Ward 6 middle school elementary-to-middle school feed situation.

I'm in-bounds for SH and won't enroll my child in a couple years on current trends, like most of our friends. Our children are well-behaved students who easily score 5s on both PARCC sections. Arguably, SH won't be better off without us.

Christ, it's been said by YOU about 1000 times on any SH related post. Give it a rest.

We got it -- you're going elsewhere. From your condescending tone alone I can promise you that you would not be missed at SH.

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Anonymous wrote:Improving, right, but, as has been said, turning SH into a Deal, or even a Hardy, is a 10-20 year project without Brent, Maury and SWS when it could have been a 3-5 year project.

Many of us on the Hill are fed up with losing dear friends to the burbs because Hill schools aren't attractive to most in-boundary families after elementary. Many of us feel that DCPS made a terrible mistake four years ago in refusing to respond to high local demand for a change in the Ward 6 middle school elementary-to-middle school feed situation.

I'm in-bounds for SH and won't enroll my child in a couple years on current trends, like most of our friends. Our children are well-behaved students who easily score 5s on both PARCC sections. Arguably, SH won't be better off without us.

Christ, it's been said by YOU about 1000 times on any SH related post. Give it a rest.

We got it -- you're going elsewhere. From your condescending tone alone I can promise you that you would not be missed at SH.

Anonymous wrote:Improving, right, but, as has been said, turning SH into a Deal, or even a Hardy, is a 10-20 year project without Brent, Maury and SWS when it could have been a 3-5 year project.

Many of us on the Hill are fed up with losing dear friends to the burbs because Hill schools aren't attractive to most in-boundary families after elementary. Many of us feel that DCPS made a terrible mistake four years ago in refusing to respond to high local demand for a change in the Ward 6 middle school elementary-to-middle school feed situation.

I'm in-bounds for SH and won't enroll my child in a couple years on current trends, like most of our friends. Our children are well-behaved students who easily score 5s on both PARCC sections. Arguably, SH won't be better off without us.

Anonymous wrote:Improving, right, but, as has been said, turning SH into a Deal, or even a Hardy, is a 10-20 year project without Brent, Maury and SWS when it could have been a 3-5 year project.

Many of us on the Hill are fed up with losing dear friends to the burbs because Hill schools aren't attractive to most in-boundary families after elementary. Many of us feel that DCPS made a terrible mistake four years ago in refusing to respond to high local demand for a change in the Ward 6 middle school elementary-to-middle school feed situation.

I'm in-bounds for SH and won't enroll my child in a couple years on current trends, like most of our friends. Our children are well-behaved students who easily score 5s on both PARCC sections. Arguably, SH won't be better off without us.

Anonymous wrote:You seriously don't know the basics after perusing SH threads?

During the 2013-2014 school boundaries and feeders review, school system leaders refused to allow most of the nine DCPS elementary schools on Cap Hill to feed into an enlarged SH, creating a pan-Ward 6 DCPS middle school. DCPS intransigence on the issue was supported by the politically powerful leadership of the Capitol Cluster, both admins and parents (mostly residents Wards 5, 7 and 8), and their allies at the the pro-Cluster Capitol Hill Public School Parents Organization (CHPSPO). Sadly, most Cap Hill parents of little kids would have cheered the change.

Without the strongest Hill DCPS elementary schools--Maury, SWS and Brent--feeding into SH, the school can't improve quickly, catching up to Hardy and possibly Deal in this generation. Ensuring that SH become a predominantly in-boundary and high SES school is now a 10-20 year project, when it could have been a 3-5 year project. Not much more to say.

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Anonymous wrote:Here is my pitch to worry less about the "history" of schools (what was) but take them for what they ARE. OP, your effort is well-intentioned but there is already way too much "was", "were", "used to be" information in circulation about middle schools than useful when choosing a school. Worse, you are now asking for information that may be 5-10 years dated to make up your mind about choices you'll make in almost 10 years. How useful do you think that information will be then? How open a mind will you have when that time comes with all this dated "information" ingrained in you?

This is not to say history doesn't matter. It's really interesting and highly relevant to understand what is happening why and how. But it's not a genuinely operational piece of information in making your choice about school, when time comes.

Thanks. But I'm not just asking to help me make a decision of where to send my child. I see all the work that parents put in at other schools and would like to contribute somehow as a fundraiser, grantwriter or volunteer or whatever. It seems like they are taking apart some of the Education Campuses and making new middle schools, and I want to be involved at the middle school level because it is so important to me, and because other parents have told me that people leave our school for better middle school options. If we could get involved in improving the middle school, it would help. But I'm not sure how to do it. That is why I am asking for history and lessons learned from other schools.

If that's the case, piick a school OP, any school. Contact the principal and offer to volunteer or ask to be put in touch with a PTO/PTA leader. You need to first get to know the community and listen, ask what the school needs, and whether you can help.

I'd suggest the one that you are IB for.

I am already on the PTO at the achool my child attends. But nobody seems very interested in talking about the middle school.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is my pitch to worry less about the "history" of schools (what was) but take them for what they ARE. OP, your effort is well-intentioned but there is already way too much "was", "were", "used to be" information in circulation about middle schools than useful when choosing a school. Worse, you are now asking for information that may be 5-10 years dated to make up your mind about choices you'll make in almost 10 years. How useful do you think that information will be then? How open a mind will you have when that time comes with all this dated "information" ingrained in you?

This is not to say history doesn't matter. It's really interesting and highly relevant to understand what is happening why and how. But it's not a genuinely operational piece of information in making your choice about school, when time comes.

Thanks. But I'm not just asking to help me make a decision of where to send my child. I see all the work that parents put in at other schools and would like to contribute somehow as a fundraiser, grantwriter or volunteer or whatever. It seems like they are taking apart some of the Education Campuses and making new middle schools, and I want to be involved at the middle school level because it is so important to me, and because other parents have told me that people leave our school for better middle school options. If we could get involved in improving the middle school, it would help. But I'm not sure how to do it. That is why I am asking for history and lessons learned from other schools.

If that's the case, piick a school OP, any school. Contact the principal and offer to volunteer or ask to be put in touch with a PTO/PTA leader. You need to first get to know the community and listen, ask what the school needs, and whether you can help.

I'd suggest the one that you are IB for.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is my pitch to worry less about the "history" of schools (what was) but take them for what they ARE. OP, your effort is well-intentioned but there is already way too much "was", "were", "used to be" information in circulation about middle schools than useful when choosing a school. Worse, you are now asking for information that may be 5-10 years dated to make up your mind about choices you'll make in almost 10 years. How useful do you think that information will be then? How open a mind will you have when that time comes with all this dated "information" ingrained in you?

This is not to say history doesn't matter. It's really interesting and highly relevant to understand what is happening why and how. But it's not a genuinely operational piece of information in making your choice about school, when time comes.

Thanks. But I'm not just asking to help me make a decision of where to send my child. I see all the work that parents put in at other schools and would like to contribute somehow as a fundraiser, grantwriter or volunteer or whatever. It seems like they are taking apart some of the Education Campuses and making new middle schools, and I want to be involved at the middle school level because it is so important to me, and because other parents have told me that people leave our school for better middle school options. If we could get involved in improving the middle school, it would help. But I'm not sure how to do it. That is why I am asking for history and lessons learned from other schools.

Anonymous wrote:Here is my pitch to worry less about the "history" of schools (what was) but take them for what they ARE. OP, your effort is well-intentioned but there is already way too much "was", "were", "used to be" information in circulation about middle schools than useful when choosing a school. Worse, you are now asking for information that may be 5-10 years dated to make up your mind about choices you'll make in almost 10 years. How useful do you think that information will be then? How open a mind will you have when that time comes with all this dated "information" ingrained in you?

This is not to say history doesn't matter. It's really interesting and highly relevant to understand what is happening why and how. But it's not a genuinely operational piece of information in making your choice about school, when time comes.