Anonymous
11/09/2017 20:20
Subject: Re:No blasts on day 5/6
I've also had a very low blast rate but am a high responder. Even at 150 Gonal F and 75 Menopur, I still just retrieved 14 eggs, yet I typically make 1 blast or even none.
Like PP, I also tried two fresh transfers of 5 Day 3 embryos each. I don't think those were good quality cycles for a few different reasons, and they weren't on immune treatment, so who's to say whether that approach would really work any better for me. My current RE doesn't think the Day 3 approach is good for me because I always have too many to choose from at Day 3 and there is no good way to discriminate between them. She said the most recent normal embryo I had would not have been among the ones selected for a Day 3 transfer. So I feel a little bit stuck.
I've already had 3 miscarriages due to chromosomal abnormalities, and two were late in the 1st trimester, so I am not eager to repeat that without PGS testing.
I've had two normals, tried transferring one so far and it did not take. I'm going to try again next year with the one in the freezer on immune protocol.
Like PP, I also tried two fresh transfers of 5 Day 3 embryos each. I don't think those were good quality cycles for a few different reasons, and they weren't on immune treatment, so who's to say whether that approach would really work any better for me. My current RE doesn't think the Day 3 approach is good for me because I always have too many to choose from at Day 3 and there is no good way to discriminate between them. She said the most recent normal embryo I had would not have been among the ones selected for a Day 3 transfer. So I feel a little bit stuck.
I've already had 3 miscarriages due to chromosomal abnormalities, and two were late in the 1st trimester, so I am not eager to repeat that without PGS testing.
I've had two normals, tried transferring one so far and it did not take. I'm going to try again next year with the one in the freezer on immune protocol.
Anonymous
11/09/2017 19:18
Subject: Re:No blasts on day 5/6
Anonymous wrote:I m 42 and started ivf last year when i just turned 41.
Cycle #1
14 retrieved 12 fertilized with icsi 4 blastocysts
Pgs - all abnormal
Cycle #2
15 retrieved, 11 fertilized with icsi 0 blastocyst
Cycle #3
Started taking coq10, dhea ( thermalogix) acupuncture (3or 4 times a month)
16 retrieved, 14 fertilized with icsi 5 blastocyst
Pgs - all abnormal
Cycle #4 ( took a break for couple of months)
At this point i lost my faith in ivf and just did it for heck of it. So i could tell my self in the future I did my best and try as hard as i can. Since insurance covered I thought what the heck.
18 eggs retrieved, 7 fertilized with icsi
Fresh transfer on day 5
1 early blast grade 1ab
1 doc said it looks like its about to blast
1 i ve no ideajust wanted to transfer 3 due to my age..
I m pregnant with singleton.
First beta 14dpt. 1760
Second beta. 16dpt 4000
Third beta 20dpt 17000
Ultrasound normal heart beat..
I agree with the posts about pgs testing. They are not 100% correct. Studies shown mosaics embryos may self correct themselves in uterus. Please do some research and you will find out.
Also as far as i know ( i might be wrong) in ivf, most chromosomally abnormal pregnacies end up miscarriage. I remember reading somewhere also an embryologyst friend confirmed as well. But as i said i might be wrong..
Some embryos do better in moms belly rather than dish. I suggest try a fresh transfer. Transfer 1 or 2 and if there anything leftover for blastocyst you can freeze it.
I wish you the best of luck.. it doesn't have to try to try something different ())
Great post. tahnk you so much!! And congratulations!
Anonymous
11/09/2017 19:16
Subject: Re:No blasts on day 5/6
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Question to those that transferred on day 3 - why are you willing to take a risk with untested, potentially chromosomally incompetent embryo? This is an honest question. How would you deal with such a pregnancy?
Because no embryos ever made it to a full blast to be frozen and tested. Why do the same thing after it already failed 3 times? I was willing to take the risk with day 3 embryos because day 5 clearly didn't work. We agreed with DH that if I were to get pregnant and NIPT test revealed a chromosomal abnormality, we would terminate. I would do the same if there was no IVF involved and it was a spontaneous conception.
Yeah...why not just use the right word: abort.
Go away - no one needs this shit. This is an infertility board where people are struggling to have a baby.
I made the comment and I am struggling to have a baby. But I wouldn't abort. And I have a right to say that.
NP - You have no f'ing idea what you'd do if you found yourself in that unfortunate position so STFU, thx.
No need to get angry. I read your blog and you expressed how peaceful you are with your decision. So no need to get angry at those that will not do it.
Anonymous
11/09/2017 18:35
Subject: Re:No blasts on day 5/6
I m 42 and started ivf last year when i just turned 41.
Cycle #1
14 retrieved 12 fertilized with icsi 4 blastocysts
Pgs - all abnormal
Cycle #2
15 retrieved, 11 fertilized with icsi 0 blastocyst
Cycle #3
Started taking coq10, dhea ( thermalogix) acupuncture (3or 4 times a month)
16 retrieved, 14 fertilized with icsi 5 blastocyst
Pgs - all abnormal
Cycle #4 ( took a break for couple of months)
At this point i lost my faith in ivf and just did it for heck of it. So i could tell my self in the future I did my best and try as hard as i can. Since insurance covered I thought what the heck.
18 eggs retrieved, 7 fertilized with icsi
Fresh transfer on day 5
1 early blast grade 1ab
1 doc said it looks like its about to blast
1 i ve no idea just wanted to transfer 3 due to my age..
I m pregnant with singleton.
First beta 14dpt. 1760
Second beta. 16dpt 4000
Third beta 20dpt 17000
Ultrasound normal heart beat..
I agree with the posts about pgs testing. They are not 100% correct. Studies shown mosaics embryos may self correct themselves in uterus. Please do some research and you will find out.
Also as far as i know ( i might be wrong) in ivf, most chromosomally abnormal pregnacies end up miscarriage. I remember reading somewhere also an embryologyst friend confirmed as well. But as i said i might be wrong..
Some embryos do better in moms belly rather than dish. I suggest try a fresh transfer. Transfer 1 or 2 and if there anything leftover for blastocyst you can freeze it.
I wish you the best of luck.. it doesn't have to try to try something different ())
Cycle #1
14 retrieved 12 fertilized with icsi 4 blastocysts
Pgs - all abnormal
Cycle #2
15 retrieved, 11 fertilized with icsi 0 blastocyst
Cycle #3
Started taking coq10, dhea ( thermalogix) acupuncture (3or 4 times a month)
16 retrieved, 14 fertilized with icsi 5 blastocyst
Pgs - all abnormal
Cycle #4 ( took a break for couple of months)
At this point i lost my faith in ivf and just did it for heck of it. So i could tell my self in the future I did my best and try as hard as i can. Since insurance covered I thought what the heck.
18 eggs retrieved, 7 fertilized with icsi
Fresh transfer on day 5
1 early blast grade 1ab
1 doc said it looks like its about to blast
1 i ve no idea
just wanted to transfer 3 due to my age..
I m pregnant with singleton.
First beta 14dpt. 1760
Second beta. 16dpt 4000
Third beta 20dpt 17000
Ultrasound normal heart beat..
I agree with the posts about pgs testing. They are not 100% correct. Studies shown mosaics embryos may self correct themselves in uterus. Please do some research and you will find out.
Also as far as i know ( i might be wrong) in ivf, most chromosomally abnormal pregnacies end up miscarriage. I remember reading somewhere also an embryologyst friend confirmed as well. But as i said i might be wrong..
Some embryos do better in moms belly rather than dish. I suggest try a fresh transfer. Transfer 1 or 2 and if there anything leftover for blastocyst you can freeze it.
I wish you the best of luck.. it doesn't have to try to try something different ())
Anonymous
11/09/2017 18:12
Subject: No blasts on day 5/6
Anonymous wrote:Day 3 transfer! My RE will only do that for me after none of my embryos made it to day 5. Next cycle worked and DD is 1 years old. We are trying for #2 and we have 10 frozen day 3 embryos. There are some that believe the body is a better environment than the culture.
I certainly agree with you!
Anonymous
11/09/2017 17:35
Subject: No blasts on day 5/6
Seem like you have a high number of eggs but low quality.
Might be worth have fewer eggs but of higher quality, which might be achieved by reducing your dosage of stims.
What is your current IVF protocol and how much medicine are you taking?
Might be worth have fewer eggs but of higher quality, which might be achieved by reducing your dosage of stims.
What is your current IVF protocol and how much medicine are you taking?
Anonymous
11/09/2017 17:04
Subject: Re:No blasts on day 5/6
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Question to those that transferred on day 3 - why are you willing to take a risk with untested, potentially chromosomally incompetent embryo? This is an honest question. How would you deal with such a pregnancy?
Because no embryos ever made it to a full blast to be frozen and tested. Why do the same thing after it already failed 3 times? I was willing to take the risk with day 3 embryos because day 5 clearly didn't work. We agreed with DH that if I were to get pregnant and NIPT test revealed a chromosomal abnormality, we would terminate. I would do the same if there was no IVF involved and it was a spontaneous conception.
Yeah...why not just use the right word: abort.
Go away - no one needs this shit. This is an infertility board where people are struggling to have a baby.
I made the comment and I am struggling to have a baby. But I wouldn't abort. And I have a right to say that.
NP - You have no f'ing idea what you'd do if you found yourself in that unfortunate position so STFU, thx.
Anonymous
11/09/2017 16:57
Subject: No blasts on day 5/6
Anonymous wrote:Have you been tested for the MTHFR gene?
Yes I have it. Taking Prenate Essential with Folate and folgard when pregnant.
Anonymous
11/09/2017 11:39
Subject: Re:No blasts on day 5/6
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Question to those that transferred on day 3 - why are you willing to take a risk with untested, potentially chromosomally incompetent embryo? This is an honest question. How would you deal with such a pregnancy?
Because no embryos ever made it to a full blast to be frozen and tested. Why do the same thing after it already failed 3 times? I was willing to take the risk with day 3 embryos because day 5 clearly didn't work. We agreed with DH that if I were to get pregnant and NIPT test revealed a chromosomal abnormality, we would terminate. I would do the same if there was no IVF involved and it was a spontaneous conception.
Yeah...why not just use the right word: abort.
Go away - no one needs this shit. This is an infertility board where people are struggling to have a baby.
I made the comment and I am struggling to have a baby. But I wouldn't abort. And I have a right to say that.
I am the PP you quoted. You can use whatever word you want, doesn't matter to me, it's a free country. You can also do whatever you want in terms of keeping your own chromosomally abnormal pregnancy, it's your right and it doesn't make any difference to me or affect my life in any way.
Anonymous
11/09/2017 10:53
Subject: No blasts on day 5/6
Have you been tested for the MTHFR gene?
Anonymous
11/09/2017 10:52
Subject: Re:No blasts on day 5/6
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Question to those that transferred on day 3 - why are you willing to take a risk with untested, potentially chromosomally incompetent embryo? This is an honest question. How would you deal with such a pregnancy?
Because no embryos ever made it to a full blast to be frozen and tested. Why do the same thing after it already failed 3 times? I was willing to take the risk with day 3 embryos because day 5 clearly didn't work. We agreed with DH that if I were to get pregnant and NIPT test revealed a chromosomal abnormality, we would terminate. I would do the same if there was no IVF involved and it was a spontaneous conception.
Yeah...why not just use the right word: abort.
Go away - no one needs this shit. This is an infertility board where people are struggling to have a baby.
I made the comment and I am struggling to have a baby. But I wouldn't abort. And I have a right to say that.
Anonymous
11/09/2017 10:50
Subject: Re:No blasts on day 5/6
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Question to those that transferred on day 3 - why are you willing to take a risk with untested, potentially chromosomally incompetent embryo? This is an honest question. How would you deal with such a pregnancy?
Because no embryos ever made it to a full blast to be frozen and tested. Why do the same thing after it already failed 3 times? I was willing to take the risk with day 3 embryos because day 5 clearly didn't work. We agreed with DH that if I were to get pregnant and NIPT test revealed a chromosomal abnormality, we would terminate. I would do the same if there was no IVF involved and it was a spontaneous conception.
Yeah...why not just use the right word: abort.
Go away - no one needs this shit. This is an infertility board where people are struggling to have a baby.
Anonymous
11/09/2017 10:43
Subject: Re:No blasts on day 5/6
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Question to those that transferred on day 3 - why are you willing to take a risk with untested, potentially chromosomally incompetent embryo? This is an honest question. How would you deal with such a pregnancy?
Because no embryos ever made it to a full blast to be frozen and tested. Why do the same thing after it already failed 3 times? I was willing to take the risk with day 3 embryos because day 5 clearly didn't work. We agreed with DH that if I were to get pregnant and NIPT test revealed a chromosomal abnormality, we would terminate. I would do the same if there was no IVF involved and it was a spontaneous conception.
Yeah...why not just use the right word: abort.
Anonymous
11/09/2017 10:23
Subject: Re:No blasts on day 5/6
Anonymous wrote:Question to those that transferred on day 3 - why are you willing to take a risk with untested, potentially chromosomally incompetent embryo? This is an honest question. How would you deal with such a pregnancy?
Because no embryos ever made it to a full blast to be frozen and tested. Why do the same thing after it already failed 3 times? I was willing to take the risk with day 3 embryos because day 5 clearly didn't work. We agreed with DH that if I were to get pregnant and NIPT test revealed a chromosomal abnormality, we would terminate. I would do the same if there was no IVF involved and it was a spontaneous conception.
Anonymous
11/09/2017 00:48
Subject: No blasts on day 5/6
Do they not do NIPT to PGS tested embryos? We did not do PGS since it's not 100% accurate and I'm now 11 weeks. We'll do NIPT next week. I think we would choose to do NIPT even if our embryo was PGS tested, unless they are treated as either/or, which I wasn't aware.