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Anonymous wrote:As a Bernie supporter, I feel forever burned by the big Democrat machine. Trumps presidency is exactly what the DNC and party deserve. There needs to be consequences for what DWS and HRC did, and Trump is it. Unlike the rest of the stupid chicken littles around here, I'm a pragmatist. I wanted Bernie, but you know what? I'll accept Trump. Things aren't so bad right now, it looks like the economy is finally starting to take off, and if I get a tax cut, great, I'll take it. He'll be in office one term and then he's gone. The country will survive, and we'll move on. But still I do take a lot of guilty pleasure in seeing how all the big party-boss Dems are still wrapped around their own axles over getting beat last year. It serves them right. They HAD a winning candidate, and they shafted him. You made your bed, DNC. Now sleep in it.

I agree with you, but I don’t think the party insiders really care too much about losing, for the most part. They’re satisfied as long as the gravy train keeps rolling.

Sadly, you're probably right. And although I can't prove it, based on some of the things I've read here over the years, I suspect many republicans might feel the same way about their party, too. I really began to suspect this back during the 2012 primary season. I still remember a lot of people not really being all that happy with Romney, but thinking the machine was in control, and there was nothing they could do. Then four years later, it was the Democrats turn to have the same exact thing happen to them. With the same result. This is not a coincidence.

Me four.

Bernie's line about people not worrying about the Titanic sinking as long as they get to stay in First Class is right on. The Democratic leadership is wholly concerned with their own careers and is totally indifferent to the plight of their voters. Anyone who really cares about beating Trump needs to look beyond the current crop of Democratic leaders: they'll never beat Trump or doing anything meaningful for voters.

Absolutely. They’re looking out for themselves, not the rest of America.

It reminds me of when I worked at Naral, and a major anti-choice decision was issued. I overheard a couple execs in the break room talking about what a boon it would be for fundraising. I believe some of them were actually happy about it.

Different organization (think handguns) and when Sandy Hook happened, people were almost jubiliant and were talking about new hires because the bucks were pouring in.

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Anonymous wrote:1) Bernie is not a democrat, he is a socialist. If he would like to become a democrat, then maybe he can get more support from the DNC.

2) What Hillary did was highly unethical, but it was legal. I don't like it, I don't like her, but she didn't break a law.

Would you prefer he caucuses with the senate republicans instead, then?

We might as well lose something ELSE with your blunt, stupid, party-or-nothing outlook

My point on the party thing is that why do you expect the DNC to support a non-democrat?

Would you expect the RNC to support a member of the Libertarian Party? I wouldn't.

The DNC absolutely WANTED Bernie to run within their primary. If he had run as a third party, they would have whined endlessly about him pulling a Nader and ruining Hillary’s chances.

Sounds like some of you people should have helped Hillary write her “What Happened” book.
More excuses than can be imagined............

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Anonymous wrote:As a Bernie supporter, I feel forever burned by the big Democrat machine. Trumps presidency is exactly what the DNC and party deserve. There needs to be consequences for what DWS and HRC did, and Trump is it. Unlike the rest of the stupid chicken littles around here, I'm a pragmatist. I wanted Bernie, but you know what? I'll accept Trump. Things aren't so bad right now, it looks like the economy is finally starting to take off, and if I get a tax cut, great, I'll take it. He'll be in office one term and then he's gone. The country will survive, and we'll move on. But still I do take a lot of guilty pleasure in seeing how all the big party-boss Dems are still wrapped around their own axles over getting beat last year. It serves them right. They HAD a winning candidate, and they shafted him. You made your bed, DNC. Now sleep in it.

I agree with you, but I don’t think the party insiders really care too much about losing, for the most part. They’re satisfied as long as the gravy train keeps rolling.

Sadly, you're probably right. And although I can't prove it, based on some of the things I've read here over the years, I suspect many republicans might feel the same way about their party, too. I really began to suspect this back during the 2012 primary season. I still remember a lot of people not really being all that happy with Romney, but thinking the machine was in control, and there was nothing they could do. Then four years later, it was the Democrats turn to have the same exact thing happen to them. With the same result. This is not a coincidence.

I am not sure about corruption on a scale demonstrated by what went down at the DNC, but the reason we have Trump as the president is precisely because several self absorbed candidates refused to drop out even though it was apparent to them that they had no chance of winning. Their only reason for staying in the trace was to be enticed away with a VP offer. The biggest of these selfish a-holes is Kasich, and later on Rubio. But Kasich's presence gave Trump narrow margin wins in several important states at pivotal moments in the primary. I honestly don't believe Trump expected to win - this was a publicity stunt, another feather in his cap.

Please. We have Trump because the establishment, a bipartisan group, has massively failed the populace. Endless and moronic Middle East wars, financial perfidy, and a general disregard for most Americans lead a substantial number of people to be willing to roll the dice on Trump. Everything else is just noise from the political class.

Well said. This is 100% accurate. I’m amazed that so many people are blind to it.

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Anonymous wrote:1) Bernie is not a democrat, he is a socialist. If he would like to become a democrat, then maybe he can get more support from the DNC.

2) What Hillary did was highly unethical, but it was legal. I don't like it, I don't like her, but she didn't break a law.

Would you prefer he caucuses with the senate republicans instead, then?

We might as well lose something ELSE with your blunt, stupid, party-or-nothing outlook

My point on the party thing is that why do you expect the DNC to support a non-democrat?

Would you expect the RNC to support a member of the Libertarian Party? I wouldn't.

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Anonymous wrote:As a Bernie supporter, I feel forever burned by the big Democrat machine. Trumps presidency is exactly what the DNC and party deserve. There needs to be consequences for what DWS and HRC did, and Trump is it. Unlike the rest of the stupid chicken littles around here, I'm a pragmatist. I wanted Bernie, but you know what? I'll accept Trump. Things aren't so bad right now, it looks like the economy is finally starting to take off, and if I get a tax cut, great, I'll take it. He'll be in office one term and then he's gone. The country will survive, and we'll move on. But still I do take a lot of guilty pleasure in seeing how all the big party-boss Dems are still wrapped around their own axles over getting beat last year. It serves them right. They HAD a winning candidate, and they shafted him. You made your bed, DNC. Now sleep in it.

I agree with you, but I don’t think the party insiders really care too much about losing, for the most part. They’re satisfied as long as the gravy train keeps rolling.

Sadly, you're probably right. And although I can't prove it, based on some of the things I've read here over the years, I suspect many republicans might feel the same way about their party, too. I really began to suspect this back during the 2012 primary season. I still remember a lot of people not really being all that happy with Romney, but thinking the machine was in control, and there was nothing they could do. Then four years later, it was the Democrats turn to have the same exact thing happen to them. With the same result. This is not a coincidence.

Me four.

Bernie's line about people not worrying about the Titanic sinking as long as they get to stay in First Class is right on. The Democratic leadership is wholly concerned with their own careers and is totally indifferent to the plight of their voters. Anyone who really cares about beating Trump needs to look beyond the current crop of Democratic leaders: they'll never beat Trump or doing anything meaningful for voters.

Absolutely. They’re looking out for themselves, not the rest of America.

It reminds me of when I worked at Naral, and a major anti-choice decision was issued. I overheard a couple execs in the break room talking about what a boon it would be for fundraising. I believe some of them were actually happy about it.

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Anonymous wrote:As a Bernie supporter, I feel forever burned by the big Democrat machine. Trumps presidency is exactly what the DNC and party deserve. There needs to be consequences for what DWS and HRC did, and Trump is it. Unlike the rest of the stupid chicken littles around here, I'm a pragmatist. I wanted Bernie, but you know what? I'll accept Trump. Things aren't so bad right now, it looks like the economy is finally starting to take off, and if I get a tax cut, great, I'll take it. He'll be in office one term and then he's gone. The country will survive, and we'll move on. But still I do take a lot of guilty pleasure in seeing how all the big party-boss Dems are still wrapped around their own axles over getting beat last year. It serves them right. They HAD a winning candidate, and they shafted him. You made your bed, DNC. Now sleep in it.

I agree with you, but I don’t think the party insiders really care too much about losing, for the most part. They’re satisfied as long as the gravy train keeps rolling.

Sadly, you're probably right. And although I can't prove it, based on some of the things I've read here over the years, I suspect many republicans might feel the same way about their party, too. I really began to suspect this back during the 2012 primary season. I still remember a lot of people not really being all that happy with Romney, but thinking the machine was in control, and there was nothing they could do. Then four years later, it was the Democrats turn to have the same exact thing happen to them. With the same result. This is not a coincidence.

I am not sure about corruption on a scale demonstrated by what went down at the DNC, but the reason we have Trump as the president is precisely because several self absorbed candidates refused to drop out even though it was apparent to them that they had no chance of winning. Their only reason for staying in the trace was to be enticed away with a VP offer. The biggest of these selfish a-holes is Kasich, and later on Rubio. But Kasich's presence gave Trump narrow margin wins in several important states at pivotal moments in the primary. I honestly don't believe Trump expected to win - this was a publicity stunt, another feather in his cap.

Please. We have Trump because the establishment, a bipartisan group, has massively failed the populace. Endless and moronic Middle East wars, financial perfidy, and a general disregard for most Americans lead a substantial number of people to be willing to roll the dice on Trump. Everything else is just noise from the political class.

Anonymous wrote:1) Bernie is not a democrat, he is a socialist. If he would like to become a democrat, then maybe he can get more support from the DNC.

2) What Hillary did was highly unethical, but it was legal. I don't like it, I don't like her, but she didn't break a law.

I'll accept this hyper-pedantic description of things as long as people like you are willing to accept that it played no small part in Trump's rise. Meaning if you want to beat Trump, you've got to offer better than this pablum.

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Anonymous wrote:As a Bernie supporter, I feel forever burned by the big Democrat machine. Trumps presidency is exactly what the DNC and party deserve. There needs to be consequences for what DWS and HRC did, and Trump is it. Unlike the rest of the stupid chicken littles around here, I'm a pragmatist. I wanted Bernie, but you know what? I'll accept Trump. Things aren't so bad right now, it looks like the economy is finally starting to take off, and if I get a tax cut, great, I'll take it. He'll be in office one term and then he's gone. The country will survive, and we'll move on. But still I do take a lot of guilty pleasure in seeing how all the big party-boss Dems are still wrapped around their own axles over getting beat last year. It serves them right. They HAD a winning candidate, and they shafted him. You made your bed, DNC. Now sleep in it.

I agree with you, but I don’t think the party insiders really care too much about losing, for the most part. They’re satisfied as long as the gravy train keeps rolling.

Sadly, you're probably right. And although I can't prove it, based on some of the things I've read here over the years, I suspect many republicans might feel the same way about their party, too. I really began to suspect this back during the 2012 primary season. I still remember a lot of people not really being all that happy with Romney, but thinking the machine was in control, and there was nothing they could do. Then four years later, it was the Democrats turn to have the same exact thing happen to them. With the same result. This is not a coincidence.

I am not sure about corruption on a scale demonstrated by what went down at the DNC, but the reason we have Trump as the president is precisely because several self absorbed candidates refused to drop out even though it was apparent to them that they had no chance of winning. Their only reason for staying in the trace was to be enticed away with a VP offer. The biggest of these selfish a-holes is Kasich, and later on Rubio. But Kasich's presence gave Trump narrow margin wins in several important states at pivotal moments in the primary. I honestly don't believe Trump expected to win - this was a publicity stunt, another feather in his cap.

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Anonymous wrote:As a Bernie supporter, I feel forever burned by the big Democrat machine. Trumps presidency is exactly what the DNC and party deserve. There needs to be consequences for what DWS and HRC did, and Trump is it. Unlike the rest of the stupid chicken littles around here, I'm a pragmatist. I wanted Bernie, but you know what? I'll accept Trump. Things aren't so bad right now, it looks like the economy is finally starting to take off, and if I get a tax cut, great, I'll take it. He'll be in office one term and then he's gone. The country will survive, and we'll move on. But still I do take a lot of guilty pleasure in seeing how all the big party-boss Dems are still wrapped around their own axles over getting beat last year. It serves them right. They HAD a winning candidate, and they shafted him. You made your bed, DNC. Now sleep in it.

I agree with you, but I don’t think the party insiders really care too much about losing, for the most part. They’re satisfied as long as the gravy train keeps rolling.

Sadly, you're probably right. And although I can't prove it, based on some of the things I've read here over the years, I suspect many republicans might feel the same way about their party, too. I really began to suspect this back during the 2012 primary season. I still remember a lot of people not really being all that happy with Romney, but thinking the machine was in control, and there was nothing they could do. Then four years later, it was the Democrats turn to have the same exact thing happen to them. With the same result. This is not a coincidence.

Me four.

Bernie's line about people not worrying about the Titanic sinking as long as they get to stay in First Class is right on. The Democratic leadership is wholly concerned with their own careers and is totally indifferent to the plight of their voters. Anyone who really cares about beating Trump needs to look beyond the current crop of Democratic leaders: they'll never beat Trump or doing anything meaningful for voters.

DB is just speaking the truth as she sees it. She does need to work on her reputation for giving a debate question in advance. Hillary did not really need the help. That's the irony. DB sacrificed her integrity for nothing. Just a lame joke to a friend about getting the debate questions in advance.

I had always wondered why so few Democrats even bothered to run in 2016. Bernie identifies as a socialist and Jim Webb and Lincoln Chafee were both Republicans for a long time before they switched. O'Malley was the only true blue Democrat to challenge Hillary but he was unelectable because of what happened in Baltimore plus really tone deaf when he said "all lives matter." Most insider Democrats with ambition (including Joe Biden) probably were well aware that the Clintons had seized control of the party apparatus in 2015 and thus knew they did not have a chance against Hillary.

This is what happens when mostly good people put party over principle. Hillary was able to rig the nomination process. And countless Republicans voted for Donald Trump even though many of them surely had reservations about him.

Anonymous wrote:1) Bernie is not a democrat, he is a socialist. If he would like to become a democrat, then maybe he can get more support from the DNC.

2) What Hillary did was highly unethical, but it was legal. I don't like it, I don't like her, but she didn't break a law.

Would you prefer he caucuses with the senate republicans instead, then?

We might as well lose something ELSE with your blunt, stupid, party-or-nothing outlook

If I were Bernie I would be soooooo pissed. He really was screwed over by HRC and the DNC.

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Anonymous wrote:Is anybody shocked by this? Not me.

The only stunning thing is that Brazile would put this in writing. I guess in an attempt to make herself look good.

She’s definitely playing an angle of some sort. It may be that she’s trying to get out ahead of an upcoming story or scandal.

I believe she may be trying to gain momentum for her book due to be published on November 7. I generally don't read this sort of book, but with this chapter, it is a pretty tempting read. I thought Donna, Debbie, and Hillary were BFFs, but it looks each is ready to sell the other down the river with the drop of a book contract. Also, I want to which gospel tunes Donna listed to before calling Bernie and if the candle was a Pumpkin Spice Yankee Candle.

1) Bernie is not a democrat, he is a socialist. If he would like to become a democrat, then maybe he can get more support from the DNC.

2) What Hillary did was highly unethical, but it was legal. I don't like it, I don't like her, but she didn't break a law.