Anonymous
10/30/2017 11:12
Subject: Kevin Spacey comes out after allegations of approaching a 14 year old boy
Pedophilia is sexual attraction toward children. A 14 year old is a child. Who knows who Spacey is attracted to now? It's possible he prefers very young men or boys. You don't know. All we know is that he tried to seduce a boy. Seems legit to use the terminology. Let's see if anyone else accuses him.
Anonymous
10/30/2017 11:09
Subject: Re:Kevin Spacey comes out after allegations of approaching a 14 year old boy
Anonymous wrote:Doesn't anyone question what a 14 year old boy is doing being out by himself at a late night party? I don't doubt his allegation but where were his parents or guardian?
This was in 1986.
Also, the Broadway community is very different and it's not at all uncommon for the teen actors to hang out after shows with their costars.
My niece did a show when she was 15-16. A parent did accompany her to many shows, but there were also many nights when she was on her own. She'd finish a show at around 11, do stage door signing, and then often go out with a group for food or just to hang out and unwind. She'd then Uber back to the apartment she and her parents were renting at 1 or 2 AM.
Anonymous
10/30/2017 11:09
Subject: Kevin Spacey comes out after allegations of approaching a 14 year old boy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope he doesn't get a pass since he's gay. Pedophilia is pedophilia.
This wouldn't be pedophilia and doesn't have any signs that Spacey is a pedophile.
He sexually assaulted a teen.
Whatever. Not a big difference in my opinion. Assaulting anyone is wrong. Assaulting a teen is even worse IMHO...and says something about the attacker. A 14 year old is a kid.
Again, I hope this isn't spun differently and the media takes a lighter touch because "he has the courage to come out." Spacey doesn't deserve a free pass.
I'm not giving Spacey a pass on the incident, but if we're going to throw around terms like pedophile, context matters. A 26-year-old at a late-night party with a 14-year-old who may have looked older than he was, it's entirely possible Spacey didn't appreciate how young Rapp was at the time. It's not like Spacey was hanging around the local roller rink trying to pick up teens, the teen was in an adult context, which may have created an assumption that he was at least 17/18.
I further think that, given the context, you're doing Rapp and other victims a disservice by injecting the term pedophile into the discussion. Spacey's behavior would be wrong whether Rapp was 14 or 24 at the time, but now you've created a whole separate line of debate where people will end up defending Spacey against pedophilia accusations rather than focusing on the improper conduct itself. You've turned Spacey from a perpetrator of sexual assault into a victim of defamation. Good job.
Gee, pp...were the hotel room meetings of Harvey Weinstein and actresses on the same level? I mean, Harvey might not have appreciated their unwillingness to his advances given the adult context of the hotel bedroom. SMDH.
Anonymous
10/30/2017 11:04
Subject: Kevin Spacey comes out after allegations of approaching a 14 year old boy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope he doesn't get a pass since he's gay. Pedophilia is pedophilia.
This wouldn't be pedophilia and doesn't have any signs that Spacey is a pedophile.
He sexually assaulted a teen.
Whatever. Not a big difference in my opinion. Assaulting anyone is wrong. Assaulting a teen is even worse IMHO...and says something about the attacker. A 14 year old is a kid.
Again, I hope this isn't spun differently and the media takes a lighter touch because "he has the courage to come out." Spacey doesn't deserve a free pass.
I'm not giving Spacey a pass on the incident, but if we're going to throw around terms like pedophile, context matters. A 26-year-old at a late-night party with a 14-year-old who may have looked older than he was, it's entirely possible Spacey didn't appreciate how young Rapp was at the time. It's not like Spacey was hanging around the local roller rink trying to pick up teens, the teen was in an adult context, which may have created an assumption that he was at least 17/18.
I further think that, given the context, you're doing Rapp and other victims a disservice by injecting the term pedophile into the discussion. Spacey's behavior would be wrong whether Rapp was 14 or 24 at the time, but now you've created a whole separate line of debate where people will end up defending Spacey against pedophilia accusations rather than focusing on the improper conduct itself. You've turned Spacey from a perpetrator of sexual assault into a victim of defamation. Good job.
Rapp did not even look 14 at the time this incident occurred.
Definitely not the case of Spacey mistaking him for a 17/18 year old.
Anonymous
10/30/2017 11:02
Subject: Kevin Spacey comes out after allegations of approaching a 14 year old boy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope he doesn't get a pass since he's gay. Pedophilia is pedophilia.
This wouldn't be pedophilia and doesn't have any signs that Spacey is a pedophile.
He sexually assaulted a teen.
Whatever. Not a big difference in my opinion. Assaulting anyone is wrong. Assaulting a teen is even worse IMHO...and says something about the attacker. A 14 year old is a kid.
Again, I hope this isn't spun differently and the media takes a lighter touch because "he has the courage to come out." Spacey doesn't deserve a free pass.
I'm not giving Spacey a pass on the incident, but if we're going to throw around terms like pedophile, context matters. A 26-year-old at a late-night party with a 14-year-old who may have looked older than he was, it's entirely possible Spacey didn't appreciate how young Rapp was at the time. It's not like Spacey was hanging around the local roller rink trying to pick up teens, the teen was in an adult context, which may have created an assumption that he was at least 17/18.
Anthony Rapp looked maybe 12 at the time. I'll see if I can find the photo of him from when he was 14 and doing the play on Broadway.
I further think that, given the context, you're doing Rapp and other victims a disservice by injecting the term pedophile into the discussion. Spacey's behavior would be wrong whether Rapp was 14 or 24 at the time, but now you've created a whole separate line of debate where people will end up defending Spacey against pedophilia accusations rather than focusing on the improper conduct itself. You've turned Spacey from a perpetrator of sexual assault into a victim of defamation. Good job.
Anonymous
10/30/2017 10:44
Subject: Kevin Spacey comes out after allegations of approaching a 14 year old boy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope he doesn't get a pass since he's gay. Pedophilia is pedophilia.
This wouldn't be pedophilia and doesn't have any signs that Spacey is a pedophile.
He sexually assaulted a teen.
Whatever. Not a big difference in my opinion. Assaulting anyone is wrong. Assaulting a teen is even worse IMHO...and says something about the attacker. A 14 year old is a kid.
Again, I hope this isn't spun differently and the media takes a lighter touch because "he has the courage to come out." Spacey doesn't deserve a free pass.
I'm not giving Spacey a pass on the incident, but if we're going to throw around terms like pedophile, context matters. A 26-year-old at a late-night party with a 14-year-old who may have looked older than he was, it's entirely possible Spacey didn't appreciate how young Rapp was at the time. It's not like Spacey was hanging around the local roller rink trying to pick up teens, the teen was in an adult context, which may have created an assumption that he was at least 17/18.
I further think that, given the context, you're doing Rapp and other victims a disservice by injecting the term pedophile into the discussion. Spacey's behavior would be wrong whether Rapp was 14 or 24 at the time, but now you've created a whole separate line of debate where people will end up defending Spacey against pedophilia accusations rather than focusing on the improper conduct itself. You've turned Spacey from a perpetrator of sexual assault into a victim of defamation. Good job.
Anonymous
10/30/2017 10:36
Subject: Re:Kevin Spacey comes out after allegations of approaching a 14 year old boy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Doesn't anyone question what a 14 year old boy is doing being out by himself at a late night party? I don't doubt his allegation but where were his parents or guardian?
He said times were different then and it was not unusual or atypical to be at a late night party and/or a party with only adults.
Ugh, no. If that is his perspective, the adults in his life let him grow up way too fast. Poor kid.
Anonymous
10/30/2017 10:32
Subject: Re:Kevin Spacey comes out after allegations of approaching a 14 year old boy
Anonymous wrote:Doesn't anyone question what a 14 year old boy is doing being out by himself at a late night party? I don't doubt his allegation but where were his parents or guardian?
He said times were different then and it was not unusual or atypical to be at a late night party and/or a party with only adults.
Anonymous
10/30/2017 10:05
Subject: Kevin Spacey comes out after allegations of approaching a 14 year old boy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Very manipulative and sneaky. He is trying to bury the story of his pedophilic assault on that boy with what he hopes is a bigger story of him coming out.
This.
He shouldn't get a pass just because he's coming out.
+1 And everyone already knew.
Anonymous
10/30/2017 09:57
Subject: Kevin Spacey comes out after allegations of approaching a 14 year old boy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope he doesn't get a pass since he's gay. Pedophilia is pedophilia.
This wouldn't be pedophilia and doesn't have any signs that Spacey is a pedophile.
He sexually assaulted a teen.
Is what he did sexual assault or is it harassment?
I read he pushed him onto a bed and climbed on top of him. That to me is assault.
Anonymous
10/30/2017 09:46
Subject: Re:Kevin Spacey comes out after allegations of approaching a 14 year old boy
Doesn't anyone question what a 14 year old boy is doing being out by himself at a late night party? I don't doubt his allegation but where were his parents or guardian?
Anonymous
10/30/2017 09:36
Subject: Kevin Spacey comes out after allegations of approaching a 14 year old boy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope he doesn't get a pass since he's gay. Pedophilia is pedophilia.
This wouldn't be pedophilia and doesn't have any signs that Spacey is a pedophile.
He sexually assaulted a teen.
Is what he did sexual assault or is it harassment?
Anonymous
10/30/2017 09:30
Subject: Kevin Spacey comes out after allegations of approaching a 14 year old boy
This alleged incident happened 32 years ago and Spacey says he doesn't remember it. Spacey was 26 and his accuser 14. From the article someone posted it is interesting at the same time of this alleged incident the accuser was in a Broadway play where his character is physically picked up and has someone lay atop of him in a sexually suggestive way just like he accuses Spacey of doing.
Anonymous
10/30/2017 09:14
Subject: Kevin Spacey comes out after allegations of approaching a 14 year old boy
How shitty of him to try to "cover" this story with coming out as gay. Him making advances on a child and him being gay aren't related. He is going to seriously loss off the gay community with this move, and it's unfortunate that someone would try to use that distraction as an out. Ugh.
Anonymous
10/30/2017 09:10
Subject: Kevin Spacey comes out after allegations of approaching a 14 year old boy
Anonymous wrote:The 14 year old is/was Anthony Rapp. He's an actor.
He was Mark in Rent.