I heard some of the big tech giants are like obsessed with Brown grads? $150k first year after bonus. Bain Consulting & Goldman Sachs investment banking division too.

Hotter than Cornell, Dartmouth, maybe Duke too. Rest of the ivies, Stanford, MIT are hotter.

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Anonymous wrote:Depends on what you compare Brown to. At our high school every ivy except Cornell is more desirable than Brown.

At ours only Dartmouth is less desirable than Brown. Cornell appeals to many STEM-oriented kids.

However, more do end up going to Brown than to HYPS.

More end up going to Brown because it is easier to get in. At any school there are bound to be more Brown than HYPS admits. But it is virturally unheard of for a Brown-HYPS cross admit to choose Brown.

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Anonymous wrote:Brown is hot among a self-selecting group of artsy, liberal kids. It's essentially a liberal arts school in the guise of an Ivy League university.

I think it's great, though I also think its reputation for extreme liberalism stems from the 80s and is very overblown today. Sure, maybe it's still liberal, but it's attracting the kind of liberal kid that still makes an unweighted 4.0 GPA and 1550 SATs.

But most Ivies are that way. Brown, Yale, Columbia, Princeton, Dartmouth, Harvard. The only two which kind of aren't are Penn and Cornell.

Columbia has 6100 undergrads and 19,000 grad students. Harvard has 6600 undergrads and 14,500 grad students. Brown has 6600 undergrads and 2600 grad students. I'll go along with Princeton and Dartmouth, with Yale kind of a partial - I think academically, it's more of a university than liberal arts school (5500 undergrads, 6900 grad students), but the residential colleges help counterbalance that.

Dartmouth, Penn, Harvard, Princeton and Cornell are not extremely liberal by ivy league standards.

Yale, Columbia and especially Brown are very very liberal.

So hot.

Anonymous wrote:Depends on what you compare Brown to. At our high school every ivy except Cornell is more desirable than Brown.

At ours only Dartmouth is less desirable than Brown. Cornell appeals to many STEM-oriented kids.

However, more do end up going to Brown than to HYPS.

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Anonymous wrote:Brown is hot among a self-selecting group of artsy, liberal kids. It's essentially a liberal arts school in the guise of an Ivy League university.

I think it's great, though I also think its reputation for extreme liberalism stems from the 80s and is very overblown today. Sure, maybe it's still liberal, but it's attracting the kind of liberal kid that still makes an unweighted 4.0 GPA and 1550 SATs.

But most Ivies are that way. Brown, Yale, Columbia, Princeton, Dartmouth, Harvard. The only two which kind of aren't are Penn and Cornell.

Columbia has 6100 undergrads and 19,000 grad students. Harvard has 6600 undergrads and 14,500 grad students. Brown has 6600 undergrads and 2600 grad students. I'll go along with Princeton and Dartmouth, with Yale kind of a partial - I think academically, it's more of a university than liberal arts school (5500 undergrads, 6900 grad students), but the residential colleges help counterbalance that.

Please go to CollegeConfidential. Parchment is a waste of your time. The PP who said you are comparing apples and oranges is correct. You can't compare Brown to a state flagship, etc. Personally, I would never send a child to Brown because of it's wacky crazy liberal bent. But if your child wants Brown, they aren't going to want a lot of the other schools you cite. They are all very different and serve very different interests.

Anonymous wrote:Brown is hot among a self-selecting group of artsy, liberal kids. It's essentially a liberal arts school in the guise of an Ivy League university.

I think it's great, though I also think its reputation for extreme liberalism stems from the 80s and is very overblown today. Sure, maybe it's still liberal, but it's attracting the kind of liberal kid that still makes an unweighted 4.0 GPA and 1550 SATs.

But most Ivies are that way. Brown, Yale, Columbia, Princeton, Dartmouth, Harvard. The only two which kind of aren't are Penn and Cornell.

It’s the late 1980s all over again!

Brown is hot among a self-selecting group of artsy, liberal kids. It's essentially a liberal arts school in the guise of an Ivy League university.

I think it's great, though I also think its reputation for extreme liberalism stems from the 80s and is very overblown today. Sure, maybe it's still liberal, but it's attracting the kind of liberal kid that still makes an unweighted 4.0 GPA and 1550 SATs.

Anonymous wrote:Parchment data is unreliable! For ex, plug in Boston Univ and Amherst College and Parchment says 60% would choose BU. Or Brandeis and Amherst College and 60% would choose Brandeis???

You can't compare non-peers since the data set would be small and greatly influenced by one or two decisions.

Boston U and Amherst are not peers- one is a large U and one is a tiny LAC. Same for Brandeis and Amherst.

Compare BU to BC, Amherst to Williams, Brandeis to Tufts, USC to UCLA, and you'll get what is likely the case.

Depends on what you compare Brown to. At our high school every ivy except Cornell is more desirable than Brown.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course, the thing to keep in mind is sample sizes will vary depending on school. Brown vs Dartmouth will have a lot more data than Brown vs. Barnard or Brown vs. Texas A&M. You might only be able to generalize it against peer schools- ie. top 20 universities against each other, top 20 LACs against each other, etc. Wherever there is the potential for a lot of cross-admits.

I get your point but Brown and Barnard are peer schools.

Not at all. Brown and Columbia are peer, Barnard is lesser.

All 10 girls I know who've applied to Barnard also applied to Brown. Draws the same sort of wicked smart hipster girls.

Did they all get into both?
Brown's acceptance rate (overall) this year was 9.2%
Barnard's acceptance rate was 17%

And I'm betting, given Barnard is a female only college, that many, many more talented kids of both genders applied to Brown.

Parchment data is unreliable! For ex, plug in Boston Univ and Amherst College and Parchment says 60% would choose BU. Or Brandeis and Amherst College and 60% would choose Brandeis???