I have a Kindergartner in APS. Please call the police. A 4th grader has threatened to bring a gun to school to kill your daughter and others, and you're not doing anything about it?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can handle your daughter. Start by teaching kindness and empathy.

Blame the victim. Nice

Op, I'd schedule an in person meeting with the principal for today. Ask all your questions above. From there, I would determine next steps.

Her daughter is not a victim. Her name is on a list due to her own behavior probably drawn up by a sad 4th grader. Most of these things are completely unfounded and uncover long term bullying.

DD was indirectly involved in some incidents in school w.r.t. name calling and meanness.

Not is not a factual statement at all, media plays this card often. It's the "Columbine" Card.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can handle your daughter. Start by teaching kindness and empathy.

+1. Stop excusing her behavior.

OK people. DD claims she has never done or said anything to the boy. I told her she must have done something or else her name wouldn't be on the list! She maintains she hasn't. DD was involved in 2 lunch room incidents last year. It was a bunch of boy and a bunch of girls fighting over the same table. Some boys got in trouble because of this. Everyone was talked to by the school. Kill List boy is one of the boys in the group.

nope, you are being snowed

Anonymous wrote:What school is this? I would be pretty worried. Do you know the boys parents? I would hate to involve the police, but a kill list and a desire to bring a gun to school would freak me out. I would probably want to reach out to the parents to make sure he doesn't actually have any access to guns. I would also want to know that the school is actually on top of handling it.

Yes, don't involve the police - I mean 4th grade Eric Harris is probably right now at home making a plan but, by all means I'm sure THIS is fine.

Hell, let's say her kid IS a mean bully. When she and other children are shot by an upset kid, they become victims. Irregardless of what prompted it, if a child is talking about bringing a gun to school, the police should be notified immediately. The school and parents can all sort out the behavior, but absolutely many more kids than just this group of boys and girls could be impacted.

I can’t believe the school hasn’t involved the police. My daughter is a teacher. She had a child make a very vague threat about a gun. She talked to the school psychologist. They called CPS and the police. The police visited the child's home that night. You don’t mess around when a child threatens to bring a gun to school.

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Anonymous wrote:Law enforcement person here - call the police. Now.

This is not a "school" issue. As someone who work with law enforcement after multiple school shootings, the one thing EVERYONE says is "I wish someone had called the police sooner"

Don't be that person we are interviewing who says that.

Shouldn't I give the school a chance to act accordingly?

Sigh.

Up to you, if MY child was on a "kill list" as you say, I would not wait on the school. Schools have procedures they need to follow. Have they identified the individual who had the kill list? Has he been suspended? Has he been expelled? Is the police aware? Is there a restraining order from your child (the other children). Is he in counseling? So many questions I would be asking right now...

If you s incerely believe thatyour daughter is telling the truth, hell yes, tell the other parents. Not in a gossipy way, but out of concern. Check with the school first and make it clear that you want to make sure he is getting appropriate care and support. You don't want to turn this into a witch hunt, but this sounds like it needs intervention.

If I were you I would be physically in the school right now. This morning. Talk to the Principal and make sure that she has already contacted the police (presumably they already work closely with some sort of school resource officer). If she hasn't, yes, call the police yourself.
Hopefully it's nothing, just a crazy kid not realizing what he's saying. But 4th grade isn't Kindergarten.

And I would definitely call the other kids parents and just tell them what your daughter told you.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can handle your daughter. Start by teaching kindness and empathy.

+1. Stop excusing her behavior.

OK people. DD claims she has never done or said anything to the boy. I told her she must have done something or else her name wouldn't be on the list! She maintains she hasn't. DD was involved in 2 lunch room incidents last year. It was a bunch of boy and a bunch of girls fighting over the same table. Some boys got in trouble because of this. Everyone was talked to by the school. Kill List boy is one of the boys in the group.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Law enforcement person here - call the police. Now.

This is not a "school" issue. As someone who work with law enforcement after multiple school shootings, the one thing EVERYONE says is "I wish someone had called the police sooner"

Don't be that person we are interviewing who says that.

Shouldn't I give the school a chance to act accordingly?

NP. No. Law enforcement will work with the school to make sure that the students are safe. Or call the school, ask what they are doing RIGHT NOW to make sure the kids are safe, and let them know that you are worried and are going to involve law enforcement if they don't. A 4th grader who has access to guns is unsafe at home and is unsafe around other children potentially. Someone needs to get involved, and they need to do it now - they're timeline of "we're getting to it" isn't urgent enough.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can handle your daughter. Start by teaching kindness and empathy.

+1. Stop excusing her behavior.

I see nothing in OP's post which says her daughter is the one who was bullying and calling names.