Anonymous
09/27/2017 17:27
Subject: American taxpayers pay for orthodontic work on undocumented kids?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm politically moderate and not white. It's not partisan politics to recognize that illegal immigrants costs us. Look around. If you live anywhere in Northern VA you'll see droves of recent illegal immigrants or their children. Our schools are overcrowded, our resources are being spent teaching them English, they get free lunch, and they get money from the local government in other ways. That is how they afford to live her when college educated people with multiple degrees have trouble with the mortgage.
Our current porous border is absolutely unsustainable. And if Obama had addressed this problem better, Trump would not have won.
but it is very partisan to say big fat lies about how illegal immigrants are costing us. the post of OP is one example, alleging that undocumented immigrants routinely live off welfare (homes, free healthcare, now even free $$$$ braces!). these lies are spread on purpose by right wing new outlets and like Fox News and Breitbart, so their struggling voters can direct their rage against immigrants instead of against Republicans and keep voting them to get policies that will screw then even more.
you see that in NV you "see droves of illegal immigrants" - do they have a stamp on the forehead saying "illegals" ? or like OP if think that anybody speaking Spanish is illegal? how do you know they get government money? from which agencies?
no problem in examining costs of undocumented immigrants, but please leave the fat lies out. the cost of the trip Mnuchin's wife took to see the eclipse in Kentucky could have covered the mortgage of you house in Burke for a year (the cost of Trumps' trips to his golf courses so far could probably pay for the entire North Arlington's housing market)
Illegal immigration in Nova is HUGE. The schools look like 3rd world countries. "Hispanic" is the dominating demographic in many schools, the school stats destroyed by the high levels of Nonenglish speaking students, vast majority of which eat lunch on the taxpayer dime. Nova/FFX is a "sanctuary city" besides, which I'm sure is driven by the low levels of illegal immigrants around here, according to you. Illegal immigrants absolutely gets taxpayer funded benefits. How can they afford to live in Nova so close-in besides? You got your head in the ground deep.
Here's a question for you:
Why can't you acknowledge these facts about illegal immigration and still be in support of it?
If you support the Illegals, you should be facing the costs associated with them with dignity and without shame, not angrily squirreling around denying basic facts.
Anonymous
09/27/2017 17:26
Subject: American taxpayers pay for orthodontic work on undocumented kids?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm politically moderate and not white. It's not partisan politics to recognize that illegal immigrants costs us. Look around. If you live anywhere in Northern VA you'll see droves of recent illegal immigrants or their children. Our schools are overcrowded, our resources are being spent teaching them English, they get free lunch, and they get money from the local government in other ways. That is how they afford to live her when college educated people with multiple degrees have trouble with the mortgage.
Our current porous border is absolutely unsustainable. And if Obama had addressed this problem better, Trump would not have won.
Pro-illegals advocates never count the cost for educating/medicating/free-lunching 'the children' or any cost associated with anchor babies. Everyone who cites the schemes and abuse middle class Americans are paying for is a bigot.
The VA doesn't even cover dental! My dad had to pay for a plan.
Arlington, for example, spends $19k per student per year. A typical illegal may have 2-3 kids in the school system. If the illegal had all three here (anchor babies) then k-12 for all three costs the citizens $741k. Add to that the free lunches, the free care in emergency rooms, the cost of medical to deliver the three kids, and on and on. Does this minimum wage earner who may very well pay taxes ever make a dent in the cost shouldered by the American tax payers. Not even close.
So we shouldn't educate our citizens? I am not following.
Anonymous
09/27/2017 17:25
Subject: American taxpayers pay for orthodontic work on undocumented kids?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm politically moderate and not white. It's not partisan politics to recognize that illegal immigrants costs us. Look around. If you live anywhere in Northern VA you'll see droves of recent illegal immigrants or their children. Our schools are overcrowded, our resources are being spent teaching them English, they get free lunch, and they get money from the local government in other ways. That is how they afford to live her when college educated people with multiple degrees have trouble with the mortgage.
Our current porous border is absolutely unsustainable. And if Obama had addressed this problem better, Trump would not have won.
Pro-illegals advocates never count the cost for educating/medicating/free-lunching 'the children' or any cost associated with anchor babies. Everyone who cites the schemes and abuse middle class Americans are paying for is a bigot.
The VA doesn't even cover dental! My dad had to pay for a plan.
Arlington, for example, spends $19k per student per year. A typical illegal may have 2-3 kids in the school system. If the illegal had all three here (anchor babies) then k-12 for all three costs the citizens $741k. Add to that the free lunches, the free care in emergency rooms, the cost of medical to deliver the three kids, and on and on. Does this minimum wage earner who may very well pay taxes ever make a dent in the cost shouldered by the American tax payers. Not even close.
Anonymous
09/27/2017 17:21
Subject: American taxpayers pay for orthodontic work on undocumented kids?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm politically moderate and not white. It's not partisan politics to recognize that illegal immigrants costs us. Look around. If you live anywhere in Northern VA you'll see droves of recent illegal immigrants or their children. Our schools are overcrowded, our resources are being spent teaching them English, they get free lunch, and they get money from the local government in other ways. That is how they afford to live her when college educated people with multiple degrees have trouble with the mortgage.
Our current porous border is absolutely unsustainable. And if Obama had addressed this problem better, Trump would not have won.
Pro-illegals advocates never count the cost for educating/medicating/free-lunching 'the children' or any cost associated with anchor babies. Everyone who cites the schemes and abuse middle class Americans are paying for is a bigot.
The VA doesn't even cover dental! My dad had to pay for a plan.
Anchor babies are US citizens. So what are you prattling about?
Anonymous
09/27/2017 17:19
Subject: Re:American taxpayers pay for orthodontic work on undocumented kids?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How do you know they are undocumented kids?! I have NEVER in my 20 plus years as a pediatrician had a child of undocumented workers even attempt to claim government benefits as it is a sure fire way to get caught. However, since our practice has a sign in the waiting room that says, "No child will ever be turned away for the guardians inability to pay", we get a good number of children of foreign born parents (I have no clue if they are here illegally!! How could anyone know that?) Anyway, the foreign born parents nearly always offer to pay something.
Threads like your are deceitful and cruel. Are you so pathetic that you really need to make up and support lies about children?
+1 OP, whoever you are, you're a liar and a bad person.
NP. Why are you so defensive and nasty about this? If you support policies that give illegal immigrants these benefits, then own it.
If, however, it offends you to suggest that illegals get dental and medical that ordinary Americans have trouble affording, WHICH THEY DO, then maybe it's time to reevaluate your political affiliations.
Let's focus on that problem, shall we?
No. This thread is about illegal immigrants getting orthodontic benefits which apparently is extremely triggering for liberals, causing them to lash out aggressively. Like I said, why are you guys so defensive? The consequences of a porous border is that we have to pay the social costs of illegal immigration. Our communities are all paying for it.
Anonymous
09/27/2017 17:07
Subject: American taxpayers pay for orthodontic work on undocumented kids?
Anonymous wrote:I'm politically moderate and not white. It's not partisan politics to recognize that illegal immigrants costs us. Look around. If you live anywhere in Northern VA you'll see droves of recent illegal immigrants or their children. Our schools are overcrowded, our resources are being spent teaching them English, they get free lunch, and they get money from the local government in other ways. That is how they afford to live her when college educated people with multiple degrees have trouble with the mortgage.
Our current porous border is absolutely unsustainable. And if Obama had addressed this problem better, Trump would not have won.
Pro-illegals advocates never count the cost for educating/medicating/free-lunching 'the children' or any cost associated with anchor babies. Everyone who cites the schemes and abuse middle class Americans are paying for is a bigot.
The VA doesn't even cover dental! My dad had to pay for a plan.
Anonymous
09/27/2017 16:56
Subject: Re:American taxpayers pay for orthodontic work on undocumented kids?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How do you know they are undocumented kids?! I have NEVER in my 20 plus years as a pediatrician had a child of undocumented workers even attempt to claim government benefits as it is a sure fire way to get caught. However, since our practice has a sign in the waiting room that says, "No child will ever be turned away for the guardians inability to pay", we get a good number of children of foreign born parents (I have no clue if they are here illegally!! How could anyone know that?) Anyway, the foreign born parents nearly always offer to pay something.
Threads like your are deceitful and cruel. Are you so pathetic that you really need to make up and support lies about children?
Gee. Trying to picture the pediatrician's office where the pediatrician supervises the billing..........
If it's the pediatrician's practice, then the billing is the pediatrician's responsibility, right? Even if the pediatrician doesn't personally do the billing.
Anonymous
09/27/2017 16:56
Subject: American taxpayers pay for orthodontic work on undocumented kids?
Anonymous wrote:I'm politically moderate and not white. It's not partisan politics to recognize that illegal immigrants costs us. Look around. If you live anywhere in Northern VA you'll see droves of recent illegal immigrants or their children. Our schools are overcrowded, our resources are being spent teaching them English, they get free lunch, and they get money from the local government in other ways. That is how they afford to live her when college educated people with multiple degrees have trouble with the mortgage.
Our current porous border is absolutely unsustainable. And if Obama had addressed this problem better, Trump would not have won.
but it is very partisan to say big fat lies about how illegal immigrants are costing us. the post of OP is one example, alleging that undocumented immigrants routinely live off welfare (homes, free healthcare, now even free $$$$ braces!). these lies are spread on purpose by right wing new outlets and like Fox News and Breitbart, so their struggling voters can direct their rage against immigrants instead of against Republicans and keep voting them to get policies that will screw then even more.
you see that in NV you "see droves of illegal immigrants" - do they have a stamp on the forehead saying "illegals" ? or like OP if think that anybody speaking Spanish is illegal? how do you know they get government money? from which agencies?
no problem in examining costs of undocumented immigrants, but please leave the fat lies out. the cost of the trip Mnuchin's wife took to see the eclipse in Kentucky could have covered the mortgage of you house in Burke for a year (the cost of Trumps' trips to his golf courses so far could probably pay for the entire North Arlington's housing market)
Anonymous
09/27/2017 16:55
Subject: American taxpayers pay for orthodontic work on undocumented kids?
Anonymous wrote:I'm politically moderate and not white. It's not partisan politics to recognize that illegal immigrants costs us. Look around. If you live anywhere in Northern VA you'll see droves of recent illegal immigrants or their children. Our schools are overcrowded, our resources are being spent teaching them English, they get free lunch, and they get money from the local government in other ways. That is how they afford to live her when college educated people with multiple degrees have trouble with the mortgage.
Our current porous border is absolutely unsustainable. And if Obama had addressed this problem better, Trump would not have won.
Start a new thread about your topic. What OP posted is hogwash.
Anonymous
09/27/2017 16:55
Subject: Re:American taxpayers pay for orthodontic work on undocumented kids?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How do you know they are undocumented kids?! I have NEVER in my 20 plus years as a pediatrician had a child of undocumented workers even attempt to claim government benefits as it is a sure fire way to get caught. However, since our practice has a sign in the waiting room that says, "No child will ever be turned away for the guardians inability to pay", we get a good number of children of foreign born parents (I have no clue if they are here illegally!! How could anyone know that?) Anyway, the foreign born parents nearly always offer to pay something.
Threads like your are deceitful and cruel. Are you so pathetic that you really need to make up and support lies about children?
+1 OP, whoever you are, you're a liar and a bad person.
NP. Why are you so defensive and nasty about this? If you support policies that give illegal immigrants these benefits, then own it.
If, however, it offends you to suggest that illegals get dental and medical that ordinary Americans have trouble affording, WHICH THEY DO, then maybe it's time to reevaluate your political affiliations.
Let's focus on that problem, shall we?
Anonymous
09/27/2017 16:53
Subject: American taxpayers pay for orthodontic work on undocumented kids?
So in OP's world any person speaking Spanish is here illegally?
Anonymous
09/27/2017 16:40
Subject: Re:American taxpayers pay for orthodontic work on undocumented kids?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How do you know they are undocumented kids?! I have NEVER in my 20 plus years as a pediatrician had a child of undocumented workers even attempt to claim government benefits as it is a sure fire way to get caught. However, since our practice has a sign in the waiting room that says, "No child will ever be turned away for the guardians inability to pay", we get a good number of children of foreign born parents (I have no clue if they are here illegally!! How could anyone know that?) Anyway, the foreign born parents nearly always offer to pay something.
Threads like your are deceitful and cruel. Are you so pathetic that you really need to make up and support lies about children?
+1 OP, whoever you are, you're a liar and a bad person.
NP. Why are you so defensive and nasty about this? If you support policies that give illegal immigrants these benefits, then own it.
If, however, it offends you to suggest that illegals get dental and medical that ordinary Americans have trouble affording, WHICH THEY DO, then maybe it's time to reevaluate your political affiliations.
Anonymous
09/27/2017 16:40
Subject: Re:American taxpayers pay for orthodontic work on undocumented kids?
Anonymous wrote:How do you know they are undocumented kids?! I have NEVER in my 20 plus years as a pediatrician had a child of undocumented workers even attempt to claim government benefits as it is a sure fire way to get caught. However, since our practice has a sign in the waiting room that says, "No child will ever be turned away for the guardians inability to pay", we get a good number of children of foreign born parents (I have no clue if they are here illegally!! How could anyone know that?) Anyway, the foreign born parents nearly always offer to pay something.
Threads like your are deceitful and cruel. Are you so pathetic that you really need to make up and support lies about children?
Gee. Trying to picture the pediatrician's office where the pediatrician supervises the billing..........
Anonymous
09/27/2017 16:38
Subject: American taxpayers pay for orthodontic work on undocumented kids?
Three teenage sisters in one of my schools are undocumented, their mother cleans houses, all of them have braces right now. Who paid for the $20,000 in ortho bills? We did.
Anonymous
09/27/2017 16:35
Subject: American taxpayers pay for orthodontic work on undocumented kids?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:$135 billion per year, receiving perks middle class Americans can't afford:
My daughter works in a dental office. The Spanish speaking patients are all paid for by DSHS. Not only the dental is free, they are now receiving free orthodontia work all paid for by the hardworking taxpayer. She regularly sees $5000-7000 dental bills for a single patient, NOT a family. This is just the tip of iceberg...saunter on over to the food stamp or aid to children or welfare offices. The bills are huge and I suspect larger than this article cites. Sickening, really and a huge magnet for more to cross the border.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/record-135-billion-a-year-for-illegal-immigration-average-8075-each-25000-in-ny/article/2635757
This sounds completely unbelievable. I'd be utterly shocked it this was true.
I work in education and MOST of the undocumented teens have braces on their teeth. Someone's paying for it...