Anonymous
Post 09/26/2017 17:50     Subject: PhD - intelligence or persistence?
Anonymous wrote:quote=Anonymous]
Anonymous wrote:My fiancé is a young (second year) academic with a PhD in geography.


There's something new to say about geography?


Not PP but this, boys and girls, is the reason we need to keep funding our research programs. Most people (myself included) have absolutely no idea about what's going on in all these fields. But just to pick one, say Geography, in fact, things are changing in Geography all the time. And, in fact, they do matter. Climatology, for instance, is a subfield of Geography.


PP here (fiancé is a geographer). He is a hydrologist and yes, there is more to know about this field along with many other sub fields of geography.
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2017 17:23     Subject: PhD - intelligence or persistence?
Anonymous wrote:What really makes the difference in having the drive to complete a PhD?


It is both
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2017 17:05     Subject: PhD - intelligence or persistence?
Anonymous wrote:What really makes the difference in having the drive to complete a PhD?


Both.
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2017 16:52     Subject: PhD - intelligence or persistence?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Financing


If you're paying for it, you're doing it wrong.


Does it not require financing?

It doesn't matter who is paying the point is if you don't have $ behind you, you are out of luck. Persistence my ass, get your money together.

Yep! You make it financing of the school but you need money to live on as well.


Every singhle person who I know who went into a PhD program got money for both. Money for living come from TA, RA and additional research projects.
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2017 16:50     Subject: PhD - intelligence or persistence?
quote=Anonymous]
Anonymous wrote:My fiancé is a young (second year) academic with a PhD in geography.


There's something new to say about geography?


Not PP but this, boys and girls, is the reason we need to keep funding our research programs. Most people (myself included) have absolutely no idea about what's going on in all these fields. But just to pick one, say Geography, in fact, things are changing in Geography all the time. And, in fact, they do matter. Climatology, for instance, is a subfield of Geography.
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2017 16:38     Subject: PhD - intelligence or persistence?
Anonymous wrote:My fiancé is a young (second year) academic with a PhD in geography.


There's something new to say about geography?
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2017 16:38     Subject: PhD - intelligence or persistence?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Financing


If you're paying for it, you're doing it wrong.


You're paying for it in lost income even if you're paying nothing up front.
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2017 16:29     Subject: PhD - intelligence or persistence?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Financing


If you're paying for it, you're doing it wrong.


Does it not require financing?

It doesn't matter who is paying the point is if you don't have $ behind you, you are out of luck. Persistence my ass, get your money together.

Yep! You make it financing of the school but you need money to live on as well.
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2017 15:59     Subject: PhD - intelligence or persistence?
I think you need both and I also think you have to have determination and focus. The ones I know who did not succeed in my program weren't sure what they were doing and so ended up failing. I knew what I wanted to do the moment I stepped in and finished my degree in 5 years, working full time (outside academia) for the final 3...
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2017 15:56     Subject: PhD - intelligence or persistence?
I know someone who is paying for a PhD in Occupational Leadership from a no name school. My assessment on the value of this PhD is obviously different from someone who is receiving a stipend from a university while they pursue their degree in Physics or whatever.
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2017 14:08     Subject: Re:PhD - intelligence or persistence?
I know a number of people who went into a PhD programs with the sole purpose of getting financing for masters degree (combo program) as it was much easier to find financing. Majority actually got PhDs. STEM and econ.
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2017 13:58     Subject: Re:PhD - intelligence or persistence?
Both. And despite the nasty comment from a PP, yes, you do actually need to be intelligent to get a PhD in the "liberal arts."

And as far as financing is concerned, I think the majority of PhD programs pay the student and are therefore "free," other than the opportunity cost of lost wages at a higher paying job during the PhD period.

Anonymous
Post 09/26/2017 13:57     Subject: PhD - intelligence or persistence?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Financing


If you're paying for it, you're doing it wrong.

+1



+2. Who pays?


School paid.
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2017 13:43     Subject: PhD - intelligence or persistence?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Financing


If you're paying for it, you're doing it wrong.

+1



+2. Who pays?
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2017 13:42     Subject: PhD - intelligence or persistence?
both I think. My husband finished his phd in a mathematical field in 2.5 yrs. He both has a genius-level IQ but is incredibly driven and high energy.