Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Where is the part of your post where you detail the visits to the developmental pediatrician or child psychologist, the evaluations she had, and the diagnoses and discussion about treatment?

PLEASE tell me you did something along those lines in the two years between her first expulsion and this year's problems.

If you didn't, shame on you. This poor child is crying out for help. She has a mental disorder (and ADHD is probably the main factor, but there could be something else as well).

STOP IT. There is no need to berate OP. Just stop. You attacking other parents is not the way to alleviate whatever anxiety you have about your own kid.

OP, you should ask the school to evaluate your child.

No worries about my own kids, since they were evaluated as soon as concerns arose, which is precisely what OP failed to do.

OP, the school evaluations are perfunctory and conducted by people who do not have the degrees and experience of private practice psychologists. Bear in mind there might be a conflict of interest. If you have the money, a private evaluation is immeasurably better.

This is a serious parenting fail on your part, there's no polite way to say it. Make an appointment first thing on Monday.

Clearly you have deeply rooted anxieties and a need to feel superior if you think chastising a parent who is asking for help as a failure.

OP if you post on the SN board along with where you live, people can help connect you to resources.

Go away. OP needs to hear a strong message and you're muddying the waters. Unless you're OP, and a troll?

This cannot be for real.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I have a kid who is 12 now who has had an IEP for behavioral issues since he was 4. He is now in a private special ed school. His behaviors were never as severe as what you describe your dd doing, and he has never been successfully "mainstreamed" in a regular class.

I'm only telling you this so you recognize how far outside the norm this is *you need a diagnosis and professional help*.

OP here. I was in special education for a learning disability and never acted like this. My classmates never had behavioral problems.

Mom of sn kid here. OP, there are many different types of learning disabilities and in some children his/her inability to understand what's going on in the classroom can look like bad behavior. She may also have severe anxiety, ADHD, nutritional imbalances. Some neurological autoimmune diseases can look like terrible or psychotic behavior. The point is, your daughter needs a medical evaluation by an experienced developmental pediatrician who will also do a complete blood work-up. Her behavior plus your own family history of a learning disability means she has a pretty high probability of something being wrong. And the sooner you know, the sooner you can help her.

I think OP is a troll.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I have a kid who is 12 now who has had an IEP for behavioral issues since he was 4. He is now in a private special ed school. His behaviors were never as severe as what you describe your dd doing, and he has never been successfully "mainstreamed" in a regular class.

I'm only telling you this so you recognize how far outside the norm this is *you need a diagnosis and professional help*.

OP here. I was in special education for a learning disability and never acted like this. My classmates never had behavioral problems.

And? Special ed is a broad umbrella, including kids with mental health diagnoses, autism, ADHD etc that can lead to difficult behaviors.

Anonymous wrote:OP, I have a kid who is 12 now who has had an IEP for behavioral issues since he was 4. He is now in a private special ed school. His behaviors were never as severe as what you describe your dd doing, and he has never been successfully "mainstreamed" in a regular class.

I'm only telling you this so you recognize how far outside the norm this is *you need a diagnosis and professional help*.

OP here. I was in special education for a learning disability and never acted like this. My classmates never had behavioral problems.

OP, I have a kid who is 12 now who has had an IEP for behavioral issues since he was 4. He is now in a private special ed school. His behaviors were never as severe as what you describe your dd doing, and he has never been successfully "mainstreamed" in a regular class.

I'm only telling you this so you recognize how far outside the norm this is *you need a diagnosis and professional help*.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Where is the part of your post where you detail the visits to the developmental pediatrician or child psychologist, the evaluations she had, and the diagnoses and discussion about treatment?

PLEASE tell me you did something along those lines in the two years between her first expulsion and this year's problems.

If you didn't, shame on you. This poor child is crying out for help. She has a mental disorder (and ADHD is probably the main factor, but there could be something else as well).

OP here. We did consequences, talking to her firmly making eye contact in a low tone voice, taken away TV, tablet, toys, grounding, ignoring her, time outs, etc. I am here looking for consequences that hopefully work. I never went to a developmental pediatrician, child psychologist or had an evaluation.

I mean this politely: are you from a non-American culture? I don't really understand why she has had these problems for years and no one suggested professional help?
Negative consequences aren't going to work if there is something going on organically in her brain that is causing these behaviors. In fact, more likely to make things worth. Please stop "punishing" her until you, her parent, get her some real help.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Where is the part of your post where you detail the visits to the developmental pediatrician or child psychologist, the evaluations she had, and the diagnoses and discussion about treatment?

PLEASE tell me you did something along those lines in the two years between her first expulsion and this year's problems.

If you didn't, shame on you. This poor child is crying out for help. She has a mental disorder (and ADHD is probably the main factor, but there could be something else as well).

OP here. We did consequences, talking to her firmly making eye contact in a low tone voice, taken away TV, tablet, toys, grounding, ignoring her, time outs, etc. I am here looking for consequences that hopefully work. I never went to a developmental pediatrician, child psychologist or had an evaluation.

Her behavior is so far out of the realm of "normal" that typical parenting hacks, like taking away the tv, are not the answer. You have a very serious problem on your hands and don't even seem to recognize it. PPs are right - get her evaluated and get treatment from professionals before it's too late to fix her behavior.

OP - I'm sorry people are being unkind. This is NOT your typical/normal "bad behavior". This is clearly a situation that requires professional intervention. I would recommend speaking with the teacher and principal to begin the assessment process. I'd also post in the Special Needs forum here. If you provide your general location I am sure the experienced parents there could also give you specific recommendations for private evaluations and treatment.

I know it is very hard to accept that your child has some special needs. Please remember she is still the child you know and love. It is your job (every parents job) to help your child be as successful as they can be.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Where is the part of your post where you detail the visits to the developmental pediatrician or child psychologist, the evaluations she had, and the diagnoses and discussion about treatment?

PLEASE tell me you did something along those lines in the two years between her first expulsion and this year's problems.

If you didn't, shame on you. This poor child is crying out for help. She has a mental disorder (and ADHD is probably the main factor, but there could be something else as well).

STOP IT. There is no need to berate OP. Just stop. You attacking other parents is not the way to alleviate whatever anxiety you have about your own kid.

OP, you should ask the school to evaluate your child.

No worries about my own kids, since they were evaluated as soon as concerns arose, which is precisely what OP failed to do.

OP, the school evaluations are perfunctory and conducted by people who do not have the degrees and experience of private practice psychologists. Bear in mind there might be a conflict of interest. If you have the money, a private evaluation is immeasurably better.

This is a serious parenting fail on your part, there's no polite way to say it. Make an appointment first thing on Monday.

Clearly you have deeply rooted anxieties and a need to feel superior if you think chastising a parent who is asking for help as a failure.

OP if you post on the SN board along with where you live, people can help connect you to resources.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Where is the part of your post where you detail the visits to the developmental pediatrician or child psychologist, the evaluations she had, and the diagnoses and discussion about treatment?

PLEASE tell me you did something along those lines in the two years between her first expulsion and this year's problems.

If you didn't, shame on you. This poor child is crying out for help. She has a mental disorder (and ADHD is probably the main factor, but there could be something else as well).

STOP IT. There is no need to berate OP. Just stop. You attacking other parents is not the way to alleviate whatever anxiety you have about your own kid.

OP, you should ask the school to evaluate your child.

The op should have the school evaluate the child at the expense of taxpayers, right? But we are entitled to our opinion that op has been negligent and lazy by not having the child evaluated and in some type of treatment prior to starting public school.

?? IDEA would also have paid for eval and services before school started as well.

When you met with the teacher and principal, did they suggest a special ed evaluation?

I am shocked that the first school didn't suggest you see a developmental pediatrician after they asked her to leave.

This is not behavior that you deal with with typical kid discipline techniques. This is clinically maladaptive behavior with a root cause that you need professional help with.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, She doesn't act out at home???

Cough - well, OP probably lets her have her own way and turns a blind eye to behavior that would concern another parent.

Homeschool her since she behaves well at home and hurts children in school. Just don't join any co ops, please!