Anonymous
09/10/2017 22:43
Subject: Security clearance...help!
India is considered a heightened-risk country. Depending on the strength of your ties there, your case may require further adjudication. It's not a joke and you should take the process seriously.
Anonymous
09/10/2017 22:35
Subject: Security clearance...help!
Anonymous wrote:I'm changing agencies and have to do a security clearance/background check. On the foreign contacts form, I asked for guidance, and they said list anyone (friend or relative)with whom I had a "close and continuing" relationship in the past seven years. My entire extended family lives in India. I visited them once last May (and before that, maybe five years ago). I keep in touch on Facebook with some cousins. Do I need to include these people? I don't think it is a close and continuing relationship, but I don't need to be the next Jared Kushner.
List them all and even friends you have contact and interact with with on Facebook, Twitter, email, etc. Yes, it is tedious and you may not have all the answers, but it is worth the investment in time. I went to college in a foreign country and listed every one of my college friends I still have occasional contact with. I do have one strong recommendation; don't tell them that you are applying for a secure position, or the details of what you do. I just tell folks I work in IT and leave it at that. If they inquirer further and want more details, you are obligated to report it, so save the hassle.
Anonymous
09/10/2017 21:51
Subject: Security clearance...help!
OP, lots of people with overseas family have security clearances. List them all.
Anonymous
09/10/2017 21:48
Subject: Security clearance...help!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yeah, clearances are a privilege and should be for Americans without foreign relations
Wrong. Clearances are for those that can be trusted with national secrets. Having foreign relations doesn't preclude someone from being trustworthy.
OP, the "close and continuing" is for friends and people who are not related to you. All family need to be disclosed to the best of your ability.
no. It makes no sense to hire a foreigner with extended family in another country, especially India, to do work with national secrets. There are plenty of US citizens with excellent skills.
this person should go get a job for the Indian government.
Only American Citizens get security clearances. You'd know that if you weren't a racist idiot.
security clearance, a nice rich man's union to prevent H1B, H4, D1/OPT, L1, J-1 scabs
Anonymous
09/10/2017 21:44
Subject: Security clearance...help!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yeah, clearances are a privilege and should be for Americans without foreign relations
Wrong. Clearances are for those that can be trusted with national secrets. Having foreign relations doesn't preclude someone from being trustworthy.
OP, the "close and continuing" is for friends and people who are not related to you. All family need to be disclosed to the best of your ability.
no. It makes no sense to hire a foreigner with extended family in another country, especially India, to do work with national secrets. There are plenty of US citizens with excellent skills.
this person should go get a job for the Indian government.
Only American Citizens get security clearances. You'd know that if you weren't a racist idiot.
Anonymous
09/10/2017 21:43
Subject: Security clearance...help!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yeah, clearances are a privilege and should be for Americans without foreign relations
Wrong. Clearances are for those that can be trusted with national secrets. Having foreign relations doesn't preclude someone from being trustworthy.
OP, the "close and continuing" is for friends and people who are not related to you. All family need to be disclosed to the best of your ability.
no. It makes no sense to hire a foreigner with extended family in another country, especially India, to do work with national secrets. There are plenty of US citizens with excellent skills.
this person should go get a job for the Indian government.
Who knew that Stephen Miller frequented this forum?
Anonymous
09/10/2017 21:37
Subject: Security clearance...help!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yeah, clearances are a privilege and should be for Americans without foreign relations
Wrong. Clearances are for those that can be trusted with national secrets. Having foreign relations doesn't preclude someone from being trustworthy.
OP, the "close and continuing" is for friends and people who are not related to you. All family need to be disclosed to the best of your ability.
no. It makes no sense to hire a foreigner with extended family in another country, especially India, to do work with national secrets. There are plenty of US citizens with excellent skills.
this person should go get a job for the Indian government.
OP here - I am a US citizen born in the United States. Why do you assume I am not a US citizen and a foreigner? Careful pp, your racism is showing. You might want to secure your white hood more firmly.
Anonymous
09/10/2017 21:25
Subject: Security clearance...help!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yeah, clearances are a privilege and should be for Americans without foreign relations
Wrong. Clearances are for those that can be trusted with national secrets. Having foreign relations doesn't preclude someone from being trustworthy.
OP, the "close and continuing" is for friends and people who are not related to you. All family need to be disclosed to the best of your ability.
no. It makes no sense to hire a foreigner with extended family in another country, especially India, to do work with national secrets. There are plenty of US citizens with excellent skills.
this person should go get a job for the Indian government.
How on earth do you get off knowing the OP is a foreigner?
Anonymous
09/10/2017 21:05
Subject: Re:Security clearance...help!
OP, list everyone you can think of to the best of your ability. And if you miss someone and remember during your interview, add them in. The investigators are very forgiving if it's an oversight versus a desire to conceal. I got foreign relatives pretty well covered. I forgot to list my Canadian college roommate that I am still close to
Anonymous
09/10/2017 21:02
Subject: Security clearance...help!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yeah, clearances are a privilege and should be for Americans without foreign relations
Wrong. Clearances are for those that can be trusted with national secrets. Having foreign relations doesn't preclude someone from being trustworthy.
OP, the "close and continuing" is for friends and people who are not related to you. All family need to be disclosed to the best of your ability.
no. It makes no sense to hire a foreigner with extended family in another country, especially India, to do work with national secrets. There are plenty of US citizens with excellent skills.
this person should go get a job for the Indian government.
Anonymous
09/10/2017 20:42
Subject: Security clearance...help!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The fact that you're asking this question honestly scares me.
This makes me think you are either someone who has never applied for a security clearance, or you're a white nationalist. I've been through this process and it was extremely confusing who needed to be listed. In this area of the country, we talk to foreign nationals every single day and it is not clear who needs to be listed. In addition, they want a lot of personal information on these people (like the town they're from in their home country) that it's nearly impossible to know.
OP, list everyone. Your family you saw the last time you visited, your FB cousins, and anyone else. If it takes you an extra week to fill this out, then take the extra week. You cannot list too many people here.
It's true, they ask for a TON of detail, most of which you can't know. OP, leave blank fields that you don't know the answer to - it's completely ok, and you don't want to raise people's interest in why you need that info. Don't tell foreign relatives that you are applying for a security clearance, or raise their interest. Keep it under the radar.
Anonymous
09/10/2017 20:16
Subject: Security clearance...help!
You sound paranoid and have too many contacts with foreign nationals. If you can't explain your foreign contacts and don't have plans to pledge allegiance and loyalty to the United States you have no business being granted a clearance.
Anonymous
09/10/2017 20:14
Subject: Security clearance...help!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The fact that you're asking this question honestly scares me.
Why is that?
You don't have a basic understanding of protocols for dealing with foreign nationals. Your naïveté will risk safety of nation. Are you working on AWS DOD Cloud?
I've been a Fed for almost 15 years. There is no such thing as "the protocols for dealing with foreign nationals", as there is no standardization for transferring security clearances across federal agencies (unfortunately). My initial security clearance required disclosure of ALL family members who are foreign nationals, regardless of whether the contact was "close and continuing". Quit being snarky because you are jealous and can't get a fed job and are stuck doing network engineering as a contractor.
Anonymous
09/10/2017 20:11
Subject: Security clearance...help!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The fact that you're asking this question honestly scares me.
Why is that?
You don't have a basic understanding of protocols for dealing with foreign nationals. Your naïveté will risk safety of nation. Are you working on AWS DOD Cloud?
Probably not if OP doesn't have a clearance yet. Your failure in reading comprehension makes me think you don't know what the hell you are talking about.
Anonymous
09/10/2017 20:09
Subject: Security clearance...help!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The fact that you're asking this question honestly scares me.
Why is that?
You don't have a basic understanding of protocols for dealing with foreign nationals. Your naïveté will risk safety of nation. Are you working on AWS DOD Cloud?
There are no protocols for private citizens dealing with foreign nationals. OP doesn't have a clearance so the policies of cleared personnel do not apply here. Idiot.