Anonymous
09/06/2017 13:59
Subject: Janney In-Bound Pk3?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Imagine what it must be like to have preK for your 3-year-old.
Still, we can't complain. We're better off than the MoCo schools across Western Avenue who pack 28 kids into a classroom and don't have preK, period.
You still have preK for your kid, just not at Janney. You choose to not use it.
Is it true that MoCo schools across western put 28 kids in a classroom? I'm not sure that is true, but just a DCUM rumor.
Some years yes. The threshold for a new class is 28, but if there are late enrollments the classes can bulge to 29 or 30.
And yet their (MoCo's) scores are still better than DC's.
(Oops, less to gloat about now...)
Actually not really. Test scores for MoCo schools across western are about the same, or a little worse, than Ward 3 DCPS.
Only for elementary. It's not like Wilson is competitive. And the class sizes in DC will follow MoCo upwards. Also, the demographics will follow downwards in terms of "exclusivity."
If you want exclusive, you're supposed to pay for private don't you know?
In DC, your child exists as a resource for underserved children and the sooner you learn it the better off you will be.
Anonymous
09/06/2017 13:56
Subject: Janney In-Bound Pk3?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Imagine what it must be like to have preK for your 3-year-old.
Still, we can't complain. We're better off than the MoCo schools across Western Avenue who pack 28 kids into a classroom and don't have preK, period.
You still have preK for your kid, just not at Janney. You choose to not use it.
Hmm. Except if you *do* use it, people will slam you for taking slots that they wanted. So you can have PK3, but only in schools that few other people want to use.
A couple anonymous posts on DCUM are gonna scare you off? Please.
Right? If you're going to do it, presumably you're okay with the effects it might have on other families. So why would you care that people criticize you? You can't have it both ways. People always want to be able to do whatever they want and not have anyone disagree, but that's just not how life works.
NP. Would you cast the same judgment on an EOTP family who takes a PK spot at a school and keeps playing the lottery to trade up? Because that's what happens all the time all over the city and is evidence that Ward 3 families who use EOTP PK and then move on to their IB have no more of a negative effect on other families than those who keep playing the lottery to optimize their school choice. Not to mention that there are people at desirable EOTP schools, such as Brent or Shepherd, who may not get into their IB PK and do the same thing before entering their neighborhood school. But somehow kids from WOTP get singled out as "squatters".
My point is that who cares if people "cast judgment" on you? Either you're secure that what you're doing is right for your family and fair for the community, or you're not. And if you are, then why isn't that enough? Why does everyone have to agree with you, too?
Why do you think I want everyone to agree with me? I'm just making an argument about the topic at hand, and it is that you're passing some oddly distorted moral judgment if you think Ward 3 families are somehow less entitled to participate in the lottery for public PK in DC and are somehow acting less fairly to the community than families EOTP doing the same thing. Just calling out your hypocrisy, that's all.
Anonymous
09/06/2017 13:40
Subject: Janney In-Bound Pk3?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Imagine what it must be like to have preK for your 3-year-old.
Still, we can't complain. We're better off than the MoCo schools across Western Avenue who pack 28 kids into a classroom and don't have preK, period.
You still have preK for your kid, just not at Janney. You choose to not use it.
Is it true that MoCo schools across western put 28 kids in a classroom? I'm not sure that is true, but just a DCUM rumor.
Some years yes. The threshold for a new class is 28, but if there are late enrollments the classes can bulge to 29 or 30.
And yet their (MoCo's) scores are still better than DC's.
(Oops, less to gloat about now...)
Actually not really. Test scores for MoCo schools across western are about the same, or a little worse, than Ward 3 DCPS.
Anonymous
09/06/2017 13:29
Subject: Janney In-Bound Pk3?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Imagine what it must be like to have preK for your 3-year-old.
Still, we can't complain. We're better off than the MoCo schools across Western Avenue who pack 28 kids into a classroom and don't have preK, period.
You still have preK for your kid, just not at Janney. You choose to not use it.
Hmm. Except if you *do* use it, people will slam you for taking slots that they wanted. So you can have PK3, but only in schools that few other people want to use.
A couple anonymous posts on DCUM are gonna scare you off? Please.
Right? If you're going to do it, presumably you're okay with the effects it might have on other families. So why would you care that people criticize you? You can't have it both ways. People always want to be able to do whatever they want and not have anyone disagree, but that's just not how life works.
NP. Would you cast the same judgment on an EOTP family who takes a PK spot at a school and keeps playing the lottery to trade up? Because that's what happens all the time all over the city and is evidence that Ward 3 families who use EOTP PK and then move on to their IB have no more of a negative effect on other families than those who keep playing the lottery to optimize their school choice. Not to mention that there are people at desirable EOTP schools, such as Brent or Shepherd, who may not get into their IB PK and do the same thing before entering their neighborhood school. But somehow kids from WOTP get singled out as "squatters".
Yes, many people do cast lots judgment on the OOB families -- just look at all of the posts wondering when hardy will 'flip' or 'turn.'
IMO both groups are simply playing by the rules of the system we have and shouldn't be judged.
If your PK3 child doesn't get invited to a birthday party because people think you're OOB carpetbaggers from WOTP then go home drink a cup of tea and remind yourself that nobody remembers anything about PK3. Including you.
Anonymous
09/06/2017 13:26
Subject: Janney In-Bound Pk3?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Imagine what it must be like to have preK for your 3-year-old.
Still, we can't complain. We're better off than the MoCo schools across Western Avenue who pack 28 kids into a classroom and don't have preK, period.
You still have preK for your kid, just not at Janney. You choose to not use it.
Is it true that MoCo schools across western put 28 kids in a classroom? I'm not sure that is true, but just a DCUM rumor.
Some years yes. The threshold for a new class is 28, but if there are late enrollments the classes can bulge to 29 or 30.
And yet their (MoCo's) scores are still better than DC's.
(Oops, less to gloat about now...)
Anonymous
09/06/2017 13:23
Subject: Janney In-Bound Pk3?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Imagine what it must be like to have preK for your 3-year-old.
Still, we can't complain. We're better off than the MoCo schools across Western Avenue who pack 28 kids into a classroom and don't have preK, period.
You still have preK for your kid, just not at Janney. You choose to not use it.
Hmm. Except if you *do* use it, people will slam you for taking slots that they wanted. So you can have PK3, but only in schools that few other people want to use.
A couple anonymous posts on DCUM are gonna scare you off? Please.
Right? If you're going to do it, presumably you're okay with the effects it might have on other families. So why would you care that people criticize you? You can't have it both ways. People always want to be able to do whatever they want and not have anyone disagree, but that's just not how life works.
NP. Would you cast the same judgment on an EOTP family who takes a PK spot at a school and keeps playing the lottery to trade up? Because that's what happens all the time all over the city and is evidence that Ward 3 families who use EOTP PK and then move on to their IB have no more of a negative effect on other families than those who keep playing the lottery to optimize their school choice. Not to mention that there are people at desirable EOTP schools, such as Brent or Shepherd, who may not get into their IB PK and do the same thing before entering their neighborhood school. But somehow kids from WOTP get singled out as "squatters".
My point is that who cares if people "cast judgment" on you? Either you're secure that what you're doing is right for your family and fair for the community, or you're not. And if you are, then why isn't that enough? Why does everyone have to agree with you, too?
Anonymous
09/06/2017 10:06
Subject: Janney In-Bound Pk3?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Imagine what it must be like to have preK for your 3-year-old.
Still, we can't complain. We're better off than the MoCo schools across Western Avenue who pack 28 kids into a classroom and don't have preK, period.
You still have preK for your kid, just not at Janney. You choose to not use it.
Hmm. Except if you *do* use it, people will slam you for taking slots that they wanted. So you can have PK3, but only in schools that few other people want to use.
A couple anonymous posts on DCUM are gonna scare you off? Please.
Right? If you're going to do it, presumably you're okay with the effects it might have on other families. So why would you care that people criticize you? You can't have it both ways. People always want to be able to do whatever they want and not have anyone disagree, but that's just not how life works.
NP. Would you cast the same judgment on an EOTP family who takes a PK spot at a school and keeps playing the lottery to trade up? Because that's what happens all the time all over the city and is evidence that Ward 3 families who use EOTP PK and then move on to their IB have no more of a negative effect on other families than those who keep playing the lottery to optimize their school choice. Not to mention that there are people at desirable EOTP schools, such as Brent or Shepherd, who may not get into their IB PK and do the same thing before entering their neighborhood school. But somehow kids from WOTP get singled out as "squatters".
Yes, many people do cast lots judgment on the OOB families -- just look at all of the posts wondering when hardy will 'flip' or 'turn.'
IMO both groups are simply playing by the rules of the system we have and shouldn't be judged.
Anonymous
09/06/2017 10:02
Subject: Janney In-Bound Pk3?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Imagine what it must be like to have preK for your 3-year-old.
Still, we can't complain. We're better off than the MoCo schools across Western Avenue who pack 28 kids into a classroom and don't have preK, period.
You still have preK for your kid, just not at Janney. You choose to not use it.
Hmm. Except if you *do* use it, people will slam you for taking slots that they wanted. So you can have PK3, but only in schools that few other people want to use.
A couple anonymous posts on DCUM are gonna scare you off? Please.
Right? If you're going to do it, presumably you're okay with the effects it might have on other families. So why would you care that people criticize you? You can't have it both ways. People always want to be able to do whatever they want and not have anyone disagree, but that's just not how life works.
NP. Would you cast the same judgment on an EOTP family who takes a PK spot at a school and keeps playing the lottery to trade up? Because that's what happens all the time all over the city and is evidence that Ward 3 families who use EOTP PK and then move on to their IB have no more of a negative effect on other families than those who keep playing the lottery to optimize their school choice. Not to mention that there are people at desirable EOTP schools, such as Brent or Shepherd, who may not get into their IB PK and do the same thing before entering their neighborhood school. But somehow kids from WOTP get singled out as "squatters".
Anonymous
09/06/2017 09:53
Subject: Janney In-Bound Pk3?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Imagine what it must be like to have preK for your 3-year-old.
Still, we can't complain. We're better off than the MoCo schools across Western Avenue who pack 28 kids into a classroom and don't have preK, period.
You still have preK for your kid, just not at Janney. You choose to not use it.
Hmm. Except if you *do* use it, people will slam you for taking slots that they wanted. So you can have PK3, but only in schools that few other people want to use.
A couple anonymous posts on DCUM are gonna scare you off? Please.
Whether or not these posts influence anyone's behavior -- and odds are good that they don't -- they evidence the clear double standard on this board. Ward 3 kids do not deserve pk3 in their own schools or charters in their neighborhood, and are not welcome in pk3 at your school or charter, since as far as you're concerned it is a foregone conclusion that these kids will decamp to their IB school as soon as they get a seat there.
Anonymous
09/06/2017 09:51
Subject: Janney In-Bound Pk3?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Imagine what it must be like to have preK for your 3-year-old.
Still, we can't complain. We're better off than the MoCo schools across Western Avenue who pack 28 kids into a classroom and don't have preK, period.
You still have preK for your kid, just not at Janney. You choose to not use it.
Hmm. Except if you *do* use it, people will slam you for taking slots that they wanted. So you can have PK3, but only in schools that few other people want to use.
A couple anonymous posts on DCUM are gonna scare you off? Please.
Right? If you're going to do it, presumably you're okay with the effects it might have on other families. So why would you care that people criticize you? You can't have it both ways. People always want to be able to do whatever they want and not have anyone disagree, but that's just not how life works.
Anonymous
09/05/2017 21:30
Subject: Janney In-Bound Pk3?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Imagine what it must be like to have preK for your 3-year-old.
Still, we can't complain. We're better off than the MoCo schools across Western Avenue who pack 28 kids into a classroom and don't have preK, period.
You still have preK for your kid, just not at Janney. You choose to not use it.
Hmm. Except if you *do* use it, people will slam you for taking slots that they wanted. So you can have PK3, but only in schools that few other people want to use.
A couple anonymous posts on DCUM are gonna scare you off? Please.
Anonymous
09/05/2017 20:05
Subject: Janney In-Bound Pk3?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Imagine what it must be like to have preK for your 3-year-old.
Still, we can't complain. We're better off than the MoCo schools across Western Avenue who pack 28 kids into a classroom and don't have preK, period.
You still have preK for your kid, just not at Janney. You choose to not use it.
Hmm. Except if you *do* use it, people will slam you for taking slots that they wanted. So you can have PK3, but only in schools that few other people want to use.
You can enter the lottery just like anyone else - if you get a slot at a desirable school you can take it.
NP. Sure we can (and we did), but haven't you observed the posts on this board complaining about Ward 3 kids "squatting" in PK at EOTP schools, and how they shouldn't be allowed to play the lottery for PK3? I mean, it's of course ridiculous, but I think that's what PP is referring to.
Anonymous
09/05/2017 19:01
Subject: Janney In-Bound Pk3?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Imagine what it must be like to have preK for your 3-year-old.
Still, we can't complain. We're better off than the MoCo schools across Western Avenue who pack 28 kids into a classroom and don't have preK, period.
You still have preK for your kid, just not at Janney. You choose to not use it.
Hmm. Except if you *do* use it, people will slam you for taking slots that they wanted. So you can have PK3, but only in schools that few other people want to use.
You can enter the lottery just like anyone else - if you get a slot at a desirable school you can take it.
Anonymous
09/05/2017 07:51
Subject: Janney In-Bound Pk3?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Imagine what it must be like to have preK for your 3-year-old.
Still, we can't complain. We're better off than the MoCo schools across Western Avenue who pack 28 kids into a classroom and don't have preK, period.
You still have preK for your kid, just not at Janney. You choose to not use it.
Hmm. Except if you *do* use it, people will slam you for taking slots that they wanted. So you can have PK3, but only in schools that few other people want to use.
Anonymous
09/04/2017 22:33
Subject: Janney In-Bound Pk3?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Imagine what it must be like to have preK for your 3-year-old.
Still, we can't complain. We're better off than the MoCo schools across Western Avenue who pack 28 kids into a classroom and don't have preK, period.
You still have preK for your kid, just not at Janney. You choose to not use it.
Is it true that MoCo schools across western put 28 kids in a classroom? I'm not sure that is true, but just a DCUM rumor.
Some years yes. The threshold for a new class is 28, but if there are late enrollments the classes can bulge to 29 or 30.
Janney also has years where there are 28 kids in a class, there's been lots of threads discussing this. Some Montgomery county schools have as few as 18 kids on a class, it depends on the school and the enrollment dynamics in a given year.
A big difference being that when JAnney did it there were two fully accredited teachers in each classroom. Additionally, it did it one year and then ended the practice. It is not typical at all.