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Your suggestion that voters can't really have any insight into Grisafe's thinking, even though the GOP endorsed him in late June, probably helps explain why he lost by such an overwhelming margin. If you don't really show your hand, but rely on support from the likes of Elizabeth Schultz and Resistance Media, it's not going to end well.

Oh, please. I am a conservative and I never heard about Resistance Media until someone wrote about it on here and played dirty politics. That was unfair mudslinging--are you the one who did it? You should be ashamed of yourself. In fact, I wonder if that twitter account was created by one of the bluevirginia people. They sure jumped on it fast.

And, that is what is wrong here. Really low class to accuse someone of racism who is clearly not a racist.

It would have been easy enough to disavow the support of an anti-semitic, white supremacist who photoshopped a picture of Grisafe with Pepe the Frog. As far as I know, no such disavowal took place.

You can keep whining, but such a resounding defeat really ought to prompt introspection on the part of the Fairfax GOP as to why they lost so badly.

He actually did disavow it if you watched the debate. And, FWIW, how was he supposed to know about it if he wasn't following Resistance Media?

That was a dirty attack and you know it.

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Your suggestion that voters can't really have any insight into Grisafe's thinking, even though the GOP endorsed him in late June, probably helps explain why he lost by such an overwhelming margin. If you don't really show your hand, but rely on support from the likes of Elizabeth Schultz and Resistance Media, it's not going to end well.

Oh, please. I am a conservative and I never heard about Resistance Media until someone wrote about it on here and played dirty politics. That was unfair mudslinging--are you the one who did it? You should be ashamed of yourself. In fact, I wonder if that twitter account was created by one of the bluevirginia people. They sure jumped on it fast.

And, that is what is wrong here. Really low class to accuse someone of racism who is clearly not a racist.

It would have been easy enough to disavow the support of an anti-semitic, white supremacist who photoshopped a picture of Grisafe with Pepe the Frog. As far as I know, no such disavowal took place.

You can keep whining, but such a resounding defeat really ought to prompt introspection on the part of the Fairfax GOP as to why they lost so badly.

Your suggestion that voters can't really have any insight into Grisafe's thinking, even though the GOP endorsed him in late June, probably helps explain why he lost by such an overwhelming margin. If you don't really show your hand, but rely on support from the likes of Elizabeth Schultz and Resistance Media, it's not going to end well.

Oh, please. I am a conservative and I never heard about Resistance Media until someone wrote about it on here and played dirty politics. That was unfair mudslinging--are you the one who did it? You should be ashamed of yourself. In fact, I wonder if that twitter account was created by one of the bluevirginia people. They sure jumped on it fast.

And, that is what is wrong here. Really low class to accuse someone of racism who is clearly not a racist.

Dalia is a former teacher though...so yeah she doesn't have kids but she has educational experience. Very different from a random dude who works for a defense consultant with no connections to the educational system at all.

Not necessarily.

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Anonymous wrote:Yay!!! Bad idea by GOP running some dude with no kids. Actually creepy IMO.

And would you find it creepy if a woman with no kids was running?

NP. Yes. I'd also suspect she was a plant, same as this dude. Also, 65,000 people voting in a special school board election is pretty impressive!

Have any of you ever heard of Dalia Palchik? Good to know that you find her "creepy".

How about Martina Hone? She was pretty well respected. I didn't agree with all her views, but I respected her effort to use common sense. Something that is lacking on this Board.

But, you think they are creepy. So...............

Dalia is a former teacher though...so yeah she doesn't have kids but she has educational experience. Very different from a random dude who works for a defense consultant with no connections to the educational system at all.

Anonymous wrote:I like Hone, but, I don't see the difference. She was very, very new to Fairfax County and had her own agenda. Grisafe has been here for several years. Who are you to know what his thinking is? Seems like a well-meaning guy to me.

Your suggestion that voters can't really have any insight into Grisafe's thinking, even though the GOP endorsed him in late June, probably helps explain why he lost by such an overwhelming margin. If you don't really show your hand, but rely on support from the likes of Elizabeth Schultz and Resistance Media, it's not going to end well.

I like Hone, but, I don't see the difference. She was very, very new to Fairfax County and had her own agenda. Grisafe has been here for several years. Who are you to know what his thinking is? Seems like a well-meaning guy to me.

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Anonymous wrote:Yay!!! Bad idea by GOP running some dude with no kids. Actually creepy IMO.

And would you find it creepy if a woman with no kids was running?

NP. Yes. I'd also suspect she was a plant, same as this dude. Also, 65,000 people voting in a special school board election is pretty impressive!

Have any of you ever heard of Dalia Palchik? Good to know that you find her "creepy".

How about Martina Hone? She was pretty well respected. I didn't agree with all her views, but I respected her effort to use common sense. Something that is lacking on this Board.

But, you think they are creepy. So...............

I found Grisafe's right-wing views creepy. Didn't really care if he has kids.

Although, both Palchik and Hone had more skin in the FCPS game than Grisafe ever had. Palchik attended FCPS from K to 12 and is a language teacher. Hone is a public policy expert and has continued with her advocacy since leaving the School Board.

It was very obvious to most voters than Grisafe was just looking for some elected position where he could ingratiate himself further with the local Republicans. With two solid losses under his belt, that seems increasingly unlikely.

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Anonymous wrote:Yay!!! Bad idea by GOP running some dude with no kids. Actually creepy IMO.

And would you find it creepy if a woman with no kids was running?

NP. Yes. I'd also suspect she was a plant, same as this dude. Also, 65,000 people voting in a special school board election is pretty impressive!

Have any of you ever heard of Dalia Palchik? Good to know that you find her "creepy".

How about Martina Hone? She was pretty well respected. I didn't agree with all her views, but I respected her effort to use common sense. Something that is lacking on this Board.

But, you think they are creepy. So...............

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Anonymous wrote:Take that, dirty GOP special election schemers!

We got your Scalia seat ;p

Pardon? You mean you got a liberal SC justice? Wow, how soon we forget!

um, no. Schultz apparently was referring to the way they were planning to get this seat through dirty politics "Scalia seat"

Low voter turnout didn't turn out in the republicans favor as they intended because people were PISSED about having a special election when a few days could have put it into the november general election and saved us $250K

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/7/17/1681138/-This-School-Board-Race-Is-So-Critical-the-GOP-Is-Playing-Dirty-Tricks-to-Keep-It

Yet somehow, spending $1 million to change the name of a high school is not cause for disgust?

No, it's not a waste. Lee and Stuart are attended mostly now by non-white minority children and immigrant children, and it's IMO morally wrong to make them attend high schools named after white supremacist confederates. Lee HS was supposed to have been named Franconia HS, which accurately reflects its neighborhood in Springfield. But when school desegregation started in the late 50s, the school board at the time changed its name to Lee as a protest against integration. It's a historical error that now needs to be corrected.

It's more nuanced than that. The plan was to name the school Franconia HS, and that angered people from Springfield whose kids were slated to attend the school. To resolve that issue, the School Board initially named the school Lee HS, since it would be in the Lee District (which was named because Fitzhugh Lee once had large holdings in the area). In 1964, the name was changed to Robert E. Lee HS. For most of the school's existence, it has honored a Confederate general, but the argument that the 1958 School Board deliberately picked the names to protest integration is debatable.

What is clear is that the FCPS School Board of the late 1950s opposed integration, dragged its heels to integrate the schools, and ultimately landed on names that many current students and families find unacceptable.

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Anonymous wrote:Take that, dirty GOP special election schemers!

We got your Scalia seat ;p

Pardon? You mean you got a liberal SC justice? Wow, how soon we forget!

um, no. Schultz apparently was referring to the way they were planning to get this seat through dirty politics "Scalia seat"

Low voter turnout didn't turn out in the republicans favor as they intended because people were PISSED about having a special election when a few days could have put it into the november general election and saved us $250K

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/7/17/1681138/-This-School-Board-Race-Is-So-Critical-the-GOP-Is-Playing-Dirty-Tricks-to-Keep-It

Yet somehow, spending $1 million to change the name of a high school is not cause for disgust?

Some of us want to try to end institutional racism and I'm glad to see I'm in good company in Fairfax

OMG.

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Anonymous wrote:Yay!!! Bad idea by GOP running some dude with no kids. Actually creepy IMO.

And would you find it creepy if a woman with no kids was running?

NP. Yes. I'd also suspect she was a plant, same as this dude. Also, 65,000 people voting in a special school board election is pretty impressive!

"A plant"?? Is this yet another liberal conspiracy theory? Please put down the pipe.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Take that, dirty GOP special election schemers!

We got your Scalia seat ;p

Pardon? You mean you got a liberal SC justice? Wow, how soon we forget!

um, no. Schultz apparently was referring to the way they were planning to get this seat through dirty politics "Scalia seat"

Low voter turnout didn't turn out in the republicans favor as they intended because people were PISSED about having a special election when a few days could have put it into the november general election and saved us $250K

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/7/17/1681138/-This-School-Board-Race-Is-So-Critical-the-GOP-Is-Playing-Dirty-Tricks-to-Keep-It

Yet somehow, spending $1 million to change the name of a high school is not cause for disgust?

No, it's not a waste. Lee and Stuart are attended mostly now by non-white minority children and immigrant children, and it's IMO morally wrong to make them attend high schools named after white supremacist confederates. Lee HS was supposed to have been named Franconia HS, which accurately reflects its neighborhood in Springfield. But when school desegregation started in the late 50s, the school board at the time changed its name to Lee as a protest against integration. It's a historical error that now needs to be corrected.

Thank you!!! Why can't folks see that spending money to change a racist school name is NOT the same as spending money on a special election, where the same vote could have occurred in November? One is correcting a past mistake, and one is committing a current, avoidable mistake.

Because they don't view it as a mistake. They don't see it as problematic because it doesn't impact them. Whiny babies, snow flake, etc.

Also, racism.

I mean, it's morally wrong to have ANY school named after confederates. But it's particularly egregious now at those schools. Now we're paying for the sins of our grandparents. But that's the way it goes. Btw the town I grew up in changed its name (was established as New Berlin, in a primarily German-American area) during WW1 because the Germans were our enemy then and there was a lot of anti-German sentiment. It was considered the right thing to do. And everyone survived and life went on! Just as it will when we change the name of the schools named after confederates.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Take that, dirty GOP special election schemers!

We got your Scalia seat ;p

Pardon? You mean you got a liberal SC justice? Wow, how soon we forget!

um, no. Schultz apparently was referring to the way they were planning to get this seat through dirty politics "Scalia seat"

Low voter turnout didn't turn out in the republicans favor as they intended because people were PISSED about having a special election when a few days could have put it into the november general election and saved us $250K

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/7/17/1681138/-This-School-Board-Race-Is-So-Critical-the-GOP-Is-Playing-Dirty-Tricks-to-Keep-It

Yet somehow, spending $1 million to change the name of a high school is not cause for disgust?

No, it's not a waste. Lee and Stuart are attended mostly now by non-white minority children and immigrant children, and it's IMO morally wrong to make them attend high schools named after white supremacist confederates. Lee HS was supposed to have been named Franconia HS, which accurately reflects its neighborhood in Springfield. But when school desegregation started in the late 50s, the school board at the time changed its name to Lee as a protest against integration. It's a historical error that now needs to be corrected.

Thank you!!! Why can't folks see that spending money to change a racist school name is NOT the same as spending money on a special election, where the same vote could have occurred in November? One is correcting a past mistake, and one is committing a current, avoidable mistake.

Because they don't view it as a mistake. They don't see it as problematic because it doesn't impact them. Whiny babies, snow flake, etc.

Also, racism.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Take that, dirty GOP special election schemers!

We got your Scalia seat ;p

Pardon? You mean you got a liberal SC justice? Wow, how soon we forget!

um, no. Schultz apparently was referring to the way they were planning to get this seat through dirty politics "Scalia seat"

Low voter turnout didn't turn out in the republicans favor as they intended because people were PISSED about having a special election when a few days could have put it into the november general election and saved us $250K

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/7/17/1681138/-This-School-Board-Race-Is-So-Critical-the-GOP-Is-Playing-Dirty-Tricks-to-Keep-It

Yet somehow, spending $1 million to change the name of a high school is not cause for disgust?

No, it's not a waste. Lee and Stuart are attended mostly now by non-white minority children and immigrant children, and it's IMO morally wrong to make them attend high schools named after white supremacist confederates. Lee HS was supposed to have been named Franconia HS, which accurately reflects its neighborhood in Springfield. But when school desegregation started in the late 50s, the school board at the time changed its name to Lee as a protest against integration. It's a historical error that now needs to be corrected.

Thank you!!! Why can't folks see that spending money to change a racist school name is NOT the same as spending money on a special election, where the same vote could have occurred in November? One is correcting a past mistake, and one is committing a current, avoidable mistake.