Anonymous
Post 08/26/2017 15:43     Subject: Re:Potty training
Anonymous wrote:Please make sure your kid is potty trained. Teachers are there to teach not to change diapers. I heard my childs PK3 teacher complain a few times last year that they were not able to do an activity or go to the playground because they had to spent to much time changing kids. This was especially a problem in aftercare where the ratio was different. None of those kids were kicked out but it was a problem. If your child is not potty trained maybe they are not ready for school.



Wrong. It's possible the child needs school even more in this case.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2017 07:33     Subject: Potty training
Anonymous wrote:Walk into any second grade classroom: do you remember who wore pull-ups in PK3? Every single kid remembers.


You claim this on every potty training thread, which still doesn't make it true. Not everyone has such a weird obsession with pull-ups.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2017 00:59     Subject: Potty training
Walk into any second grade classroom: do you remember who wore pull-ups in PK3? Every single kid remembers.
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2017 17:43     Subject: Potty training
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And some people are clueless about whether or not their child is developmentally ready for all day school at the age of 3. I think these issues go hand in hand.


Any research to back up this correlation? And if there is truth to the theory that ECE gives children an academic edge in the long run (which I don't necessarily believe but I'm guessing you do), then why should your kid have one just because they are better at peeing and pooping earlier in life?


Purely anecdotally: My kid was the only kid in her PK3 that could read at all and one of the 20% least potty trained. (She'd been in underwear for months and had relatively infrequent accidents at home, because she got into a pattern of going at particular times + could rush to the toilet last minute; at school, she had 4 accidents in the first 3 days...). Less anecdotally: There is actually a correlation between income level and potty training age, just as there is a correlation between income level and school performance... it is exactly the opposite correlation.


OP here!
You made my day lol
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2017 17:38     Subject: Potty training
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And some people are clueless about whether or not their child is developmentally ready for all day school at the age of 3. I think these issues go hand in hand.


Any research to back up this correlation? And if there is truth to the theory that ECE gives children an academic edge in the long run (which I don't necessarily believe but I'm guessing you do), then why should your kid have one just because they are better at peeing and pooping earlier in life?


Purely anecdotally: My kid was the only kid in her PK3 that could read at all and one of the 20% least potty trained. (She'd been in underwear for months and had relatively infrequent accidents at home, because she got into a pattern of going at particular times + could rush to the toilet last minute; at school, she had 4 accidents in the first 3 days...). Less anecdotally: There is actually a correlation between income level and potty training age, just as there is a correlation between income level and school performance... it is exactly the opposite correlation.
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2017 11:34     Subject: Potty training
Anonymous wrote:And some people are clueless about whether or not their child is developmentally ready for all day school at the age of 3. I think these issues go hand in hand.


Any research to back up this correlation? And if there is truth to the theory that ECE gives children an academic edge in the long run (which I don't necessarily believe but I'm guessing you do), then why should your kid have one just because they are better at peeing and pooping earlier in life?
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2017 11:30     Subject: Potty training
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My child isn't potty trained. Going to school in pull-ups. Goes when asked but doesn't care about wet diapers. Things are fine and teachers are supportive.


Consider the invention of pull-ups a way for the industry to keep your child in (expensive) wear longer. Good for their bottom line. Yeah, kids don't care (and you'll keep buying and paying...) because they are so darn comfortable. Took me to go abroad for a year, where the preschool teacher frowned upon pull-ups for those reasons. She recommended we put our child in thin underwear, so that when an accident happens, it will be as uncomfortable as it should be. What great advice. Took two days, with presumably a couple of not so comfy accidents, and accidents were a thing of the past.

I actually start to think the whole "wait for these signs of readiness" is one big industrial scam. (probably not quite but close enough)


Good for you that your daughter functioned like that!! Have you ever considered that every child is different?
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2017 11:13     Subject: Potty training
Anonymous wrote:My child isn't potty trained. Going to school in pull-ups. Goes when asked but doesn't care about wet diapers. Things are fine and teachers are supportive.


Consider the invention of pull-ups a way for the industry to keep your child in (expensive) wear longer. Good for their bottom line. Yeah, kids don't care (and you'll keep buying and paying...) because they are so darn comfortable. Took me to go abroad for a year, where the preschool teacher frowned upon pull-ups for those reasons. She recommended we put our child in thin underwear, so that when an accident happens, it will be as uncomfortable as it should be. What great advice. Took two days, with presumably a couple of not so comfy accidents, and accidents were a thing of the past.

I actually start to think the whole "wait for these signs of readiness" is one big industrial scam. (probably not quite but close enough)
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2017 10:30     Subject: Potty training
Anonymous wrote:I fully admit that I was horrible at potty-training both my kids. Luckily, we're well past the potty training stage by now and I have no need/desire to improve those parenting skills.

My first DC had bladder control, knew how to use the potty, did so at home, but was completely resistant at school. Keeping him home did nothing to improve his ability to use the potty at school. I feel fortunate that his PK3 teacher was willing to work with him and me and we tried various solutions. After one-month of stress, ugh, he had a very successful year. His pottying had nothing to do with being otherwise developmentally ready for school.

Rules about potty-readiness, number of accidents, etc. only added to our stress and did nothing to solve the problem. DCPS's approach seems to have become more child-focused in the many years that have passed since our PK3 experience, and I am fully in support of that.


Thanks
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2017 10:28     Subject: Potty training
Anonymous wrote:Be honest. If they aren't potty trained, they aren't ready for full day school. Even though it's free. If you have them at home with you, keep them home. If you have them in daycare, pay for one more year. That's it. Potty training is more about you and how you parent and understand your child than anything else. And your tolerance for keeping a rigid schedule.


If potty training is only about potty training for you than good luck! Lol
I don't need advices from perfect parents.
My kids are found to day care full day since they are 1 month and a half Just FYI
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2017 10:10     Subject: Potty training
Anonymous wrote:And some people are clueless about whether or not their child is developmentally ready for all day school at the age of 3. I think these issues go hand in hand.


No. It's PK, you Americans just happen to call it "school". Some kids take longer with toileting (which is completely normal for a 3yo), and it doesn't mean that they aren't ready to learn. My son was four before he was fully potty trained (he was on the old side for PK3), but was well ahead of his class academically. You may well say he had a "developmental delay" with regard to potty training, but such pathologization is really not founded in any science, as our pediatrician kept reassuring us. Some kids just take longer, and the range of "normal" is wide.

Thankfully, our DCPS was completely supportive, and he never pooped in his pull up at school, so they rarely had to change him. It really was a non-issue with regard to the school.
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2017 09:53     Subject: Potty training
I fully admit that I was horrible at potty-training both my kids. Luckily, we're well past the potty training stage by now and I have no need/desire to improve those parenting skills.

My first DC had bladder control, knew how to use the potty, did so at home, but was completely resistant at school. Keeping him home did nothing to improve his ability to use the potty at school. I feel fortunate that his PK3 teacher was willing to work with him and me and we tried various solutions. After one-month of stress, ugh, he had a very successful year. His pottying had nothing to do with being otherwise developmentally ready for school.

Rules about potty-readiness, number of accidents, etc. only added to our stress and did nothing to solve the problem. DCPS's approach seems to have become more child-focused in the many years that have passed since our PK3 experience, and I am fully in support of that.
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2017 09:51     Subject: Potty training
My child isn't potty trained. Going to school in pull-ups. Goes when asked but doesn't care about wet diapers. Things are fine and teachers are supportive.
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2017 09:32     Subject: Potty training
And some people are clueless about whether or not their child is developmentally ready for all day school at the age of 3. I think these issues go hand in hand.
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2017 09:29     Subject: Re:Potty training
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Please make sure your kid is potty trained. Teachers are there to teach not to change diapers. I heard my childs PK3 teacher complain a few times last year that they were not able to do an activity or go to the playground because they had to spent to much time changing kids. This was especially a problem in aftercare where the ratio was different. None of those kids were kicked out but it was a problem. If your child is not potty trained maybe they are not ready for school.


I get it.
Which school are you in?

My kids are spending their day with no diapers, one asks when he needs to go. But they had accidents at the end of the day (after school hours).

You are very agressive and I don't get why (even if I read your story). They are child and 3 years old in January compare to 3 years old in September is not the same! Every kids are different and I doubt that potty training has nothing to do with school learning. Some kids may not be fully potty train but more ready to learn other things.

Anyway, I know it is not the teacher job!


Np here. I thought this person was polite and not aggressive at all. Be a parent and potty train your 3 year old.


SMH. You clearly are clueless with regard to the developmental differences between children.