Anonymous
Post 07/31/2017 13:55     Subject: Even The Washington Post Admits "The Quest To Prove Russian Collusion Is Crumbling"
Anonymous wrote:I'm a Dem and have no problem with letting the chips fall where they may as a result of the Mueller investigation. Ironically, this could be the investigation that really serves to drain the swamp.

This was a massive foreign intelligence infiltration of our electoral system. Did anyone see Richard Engel's reporting from Russia on Friday on how a number of highly sophisticated Russian IT specialists for the FSB---in the age range of late 30s---have suddenly been "rolled up", charged with treason, and locked away? I think Putin knows full well what Mueller is going to find on our side, and he is working hard to lock away any Russians who can verify it from their side so he can continue to lie about what they did. [/quote

Link?
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2017 12:53     Subject: Even The Washington Post Admits "The Quest To Prove Russian Collusion Is Crumbling"
Anonymous wrote:This is comical! Welcome to the fall of 2016

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2017/07/27/the-quest-to-prove-collusion-is-crumbling/?utm_term=.cce2a1e9841d
Oh honey, you need to learn to read for comprehension. This is an opinion piece by Ed Rogers, who has always felt this way, and will always feel this way. It is not the Washington Post's official opinion. Please read more carefully.
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2017 12:19     Subject: Even The Washington Post Admits "The Quest To Prove Russian Collusion Is Crumbling"
Unlike Fox news and Breibart, the Washington Post offers space to various sides, hence the right wing viewpoint of the editorial. To give their readers varies viewpoints, instead of propaganda.
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2017 12:03     Subject: Even The Washington Post Admits "The Quest To Prove Russian Collusion Is Crumbling"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's an opinion piece by a Republican lobbyist, not a reported story. But we'll see, right? We'll see what Mueller finds.


You don't want to know what Mueller is going to find, because it is wide reaching and they are following where the leads take them. Like the lead of an IT guy who worked for the DNC chair who happened to be arrested the other day fleeing the country.


Lifelong Democrat here. If the DNC is involved, take them down, too.


+1. F*ck em if there is anything to the story. It sounds like a nothingburger, fake news story (or at least grossly embellished story) that rubes would fall for, but yes investigate it too. Anyway, op that story wasn't biased and written by a Repub lobbyist or anything. So dumb.
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2017 09:56     Subject: Even The Washington Post Admits "The Quest To Prove Russian Collusion Is Crumbling"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's an opinion piece by a Republican lobbyist, not a reported story. But we'll see, right? We'll see what Mueller finds.


You don't want to know what Mueller is going to find, because it is wide reaching and they are following where the leads take them. Like the lead of an IT guy who worked for the DNC chair who happened to be arrested the other day fleeing the country.


Lifelong Democrat here. If the DNC is involved, take them down, too.


Yup. This is what the Trumpkins don't seem to understand.

Most of the dems (and most of the Rs who can see Trump for the fiasco that he is) genuinely want Mueller et al to get to the botton of Russian interference and American collusion. And if the DNC falls into that mess, than YES! Take them down too. Unlike Trumpkins, we're actually more concerned about the country and functioning democracy than petty political "winning"
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2017 07:17     Subject: Re:Even The Washington Post Admits "The Quest To Prove Russian Collusion Is Crumbling"
I just read this testimony

https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/534864/

talks about who Sergei Magnitsky (of the Magnitsky sanctions) was.

"the murder of Sergei Magnitsky was done to cover up the theft of $230 million from the Russian Treasury. I knew that the people who stole that money wouldn’t keep it in Russia. As easily as they stole the money, it could be stolen from them. These people keep their ill-gotten gains in the West, where property rights and rule of law exist. This led to the idea of freezing their assets and banning their visas here in the West. It would not be true justice but it would be much better than the total impunity they enjoyed.

In 2010, I traveled to Washington and told Sergei Magnitsky’s story to Senators Benjamin Cardin and John McCain. They were both shocked and appalled and proposed a new piece of legislation called The Sergei Magnitsky Rule of Law Accountability Act. This would freeze assets and ban visas for those who killed Sergei as well as other Russians involved in serious human rights abuse."


and

"In November 2012 the Magnitsky Act passed the House of Representatives by 364 to 43 votes and later the Senate 92 to 4 votes. On December 14, 2012, President Obama signed the Sergei Magnitsky Act into law.

Putin was furious. Looking for ways to retaliate against American interests, he settled on the most sadistic and evil option of all: banning the adoption of Russian orphans by American families."



and

"The second reason why Putin reacted so badly to the passage of the Magnitsky Act is that it destroys the promise of impunity he’s given to all of his corrupt officials.

There are approximately ten thousand officials in Russia working for Putin who are given instructions to kill, torture, kidnap, extort money from people, and seize their property. Before the Magnitsky Act, Putin could guarantee them impunity and this system of illegal wealth accumulation worked smoothly. However, after the passage of the Magnitsky Act, Putin’s guarantee disappeared. The Magnitsky Act created real consequences outside of Russia and this created a real problem for Putin and his system of kleptocracy."


Groups of Russians have been working hard to lobby Congress to repeal the Magnitsky Act. Read the rest of the testimony to see who they are.

In addition to working on the Katsyv’ s money laundering defense, Ms. Veselnitskaya also headed the aforementioned lobbying campaign to repeal the Magnitsky Act. She hired a number of lobbyists, public relations executives, lawyers, and investigators to assist her in this task.

Her first step was to set up a fake NGO that would ostensibly promote Russian adoptions, although it quickly became clear that the NGO’s sole purpose was to repeal the Magnitsky Act. This NGO was called the Human Rights Accountability Global Initiative Foundation (HRAGI). It was registered as a corporation in Delaware with two employees on February 18, 2016. HRAGI was used to pay Washington lobbyists and other agents for the anti-Magnitsky campaign. (HRAGI now seems to be defunct, with taxes due.)

Through HRAGI, Rinat Akhmetshin, a former Soviet intelligence officer naturalised as an American citizen, was hired to lead the Magnitsky repeal effort. Mr. Akhmetshin has been involved in a number of similar campaigns where he’s been accused of various unethical and potentially illegal actions like computer hacking.

Anonymous
Post 07/31/2017 07:09     Subject: Even The Washington Post Admits "The Quest To Prove Russian Collusion Is Crumbling"
Sigh.

Opinion =\= news

Anonymous
Post 07/31/2017 06:20     Subject: Even The Washington Post Admits "The Quest To Prove Russian Collusion Is Crumbling"
So you still haven't figured out what an opinion piece is, huh?
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2017 23:05     Subject: Re:Even The Washington Post Admits "The Quest To Prove Russian Collusion Is Crumbling"
The key statement is in the final sentence. Let Mueller do his job and complete the investigation.
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2017 23:03     Subject: Even The Washington Post Admits "The Quest To Prove Russian Collusion Is Crumbling"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's an opinion piece by a Republican lobbyist, not a reported story. But we'll see, right? We'll see what Mueller finds.


You don't want to know what Mueller is going to find, because it is wide reaching and they are following where the leads take them. Like the lead of an IT guy who worked for the DNC chair who happened to be arrested the other day fleeing the country.


Lifelong Democrat here. If the DNC is involved, take them down, too.


PP - and yes, exactly. Yes, I do want to know where the Mueller inquiry leads. I'm not a partisan hack who will excuse anything just because it's my team.



I agree 100%. I am a lifelong Democrat and a huge Hillary Clinton supporter - but if she and the DNC was involved, they should go down.
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2017 22:07     Subject: Even The Washington Post Admits "The Quest To Prove Russian Collusion Is Crumbling"
AH, no worries. Things move fast.
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2017 21:54     Subject: Re:Even The Washington Post Admits "The Quest To Prove Russian Collusion Is Crumbling"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It ain't crumbling. It merely hasn't gotten to the Clintons and Debbie Wasserman-Schultz. That's when we'll hear about criminality.


Oh, I think we're already hearing about criminality.


So - this is your new tack, eh? Now that you can't say Russia was a big fat load of nothing anymore, you're just going to repeat the words Clintons and Wasserman Schultz (no hyphen, hon) until you work yourself into a frenzy and finally collapse?


When I said "criminality," I was referring to Flynn, Manafort, Page, Kushner, etc.

Or were you responding just to the comment I quoted?


The comment you quoted - sorry, should have been more clear.
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2017 21:48     Subject: Re:Even The Washington Post Admits "The Quest To Prove Russian Collusion Is Crumbling"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It ain't crumbling. It merely hasn't gotten to the Clintons and Debbie Wasserman-Schultz. That's when we'll hear about criminality.


Oh, I think we're already hearing about criminality.


So - this is your new tack, eh? Now that you can't say Russia was a big fat load of nothing anymore, you're just going to repeat the words Clintons and Wasserman Schultz (no hyphen, hon) until you work yourself into a frenzy and finally collapse?


When I said "criminality," I was referring to Flynn, Manafort, Page, Kushner, etc.

Or were you responding just to the comment I quoted?
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2017 21:45     Subject: Re:Even The Washington Post Admits "The Quest To Prove Russian Collusion Is Crumbling"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It ain't crumbling. It merely hasn't gotten to the Clintons and Debbie Wasserman-Schultz. That's when we'll hear about criminality.


Oh, I think we're already hearing about criminality.


So - this is your new tack, eh? Now that you can't say Russia was a big fat load of nothing anymore, you're just going to repeat the words Clintons and Wasserman Schultz (no hyphen, hon) until you work yourself into a frenzy and finally collapse?
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2017 21:44     Subject: Even The Washington Post Admits "The Quest To Prove Russian Collusion Is Crumbling"
OP, this is the difference between legitimate media outlets like the WaPo, NPR, NY Times, PBS Newshour: they actually bring in different voices to give opposing opinions about news events. And they do it on a regular basis.

Your Breitbart etc. is not going to do that.

p.s. it's not the WaPo admitting what you say, it's the opinion of the right wring opinion writer whose pieces the Post publishes.