Anonymous wrote:It's not dissimilar in concept to Man In The High Castle.

That's what I was thinking and yes, I am interested in the story.

Even more interesting would be a story where slavery still existed but the tables had turned and it was whites who are enslaved and Blacks who are not.

Anonymous wrote:The two white producers from game of thrones are going to be working on Confederate, which takes place in an alternate reality where slavery still exists. I find this appalling (whites female).

http://www.thewrap.com/game-of-thrones-showrunners-confederate/

I will be watching (a visible minority female). I'm interested in how they are going to tackle this tricky subject, the very worst part of American history. And I think the dystopian future take on American slavery will be particularly interesting and thought-provoking in light of where we are now politically with the Black Lives Matter movement and where we have a President whose campaign featured racism rhetoric. It's kind of like watching The Handmaid's Tale these days at a time when women's rights are under attack.

Two of the partners writing the show are black, if that makes it less "appalling" to PP - here is a thoughtful interview with them and the GoT show runners:

http://www.vulture.com/2017/07/hbo-confederate-producers-exclusive-interview.html

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Anonymous wrote:Considering that the only PoC on GoT are slaves, or recently freed slaves, I don't trust these two with this project for one second.

More to the point, we do not need a show in which the South is glorified and Black folks are shown only in bondage.

Black people won't only be in bondage. They weren't only in bondage during the antebellum period. Even most popular literature and films show free AA, even ones that were prospering despite lack of political rights and the threat of violence. Please do some reading. Free blacks owned businesses throughout the South, formed civic associations, and in some cases were deemed indispensable by local government officials who resisted blanket legislation to force free blacks to move out of state.

So, you totally trust these two showrunners with that nuance? Unless this is an Inglorious Basterds style romp featuring freed and escaped enslaved folks murdering their way through the Confederacy, I'm uninterested in this.

Those two show runners will be partnering with two African-American writers. I would at least give the show a chance to see if it treats the subject with sensitivity.

White southerner here and god no I will not be watching. Just like my Korean husband refused to watch Man in the High Castle because he just did not want to contemplate Japan winning the war. I am glad and thankful the south got its ass kicked or I would've probably been a refugee swimming across the Potomac for a chance at a better life (my family was way too poor to own slaves).

(I know some of DH's friends watched MITHC and loved it so I'm not saying all Koreans refused to watch, but it's a totally understandable reaction imho)

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Anonymous wrote:Considering that the only PoC on GoT are slaves, or recently freed slaves, I don't trust these two with this project for one second.

More to the point, we do not need a show in which the South is glorified and Black folks are shown only in bondage.

Black people won't only be in bondage. They weren't only in bondage during the antebellum period. Even most popular literature and films show free AA, even ones that were prospering despite lack of political rights and the threat of violence. Please do some reading. Free blacks owned businesses throughout the South, formed civic associations, and in some cases were deemed indispensable by local government officials who resisted blanket legislation to force free blacks to move out of state.

So, you totally trust these two showrunners with that nuance? Unless this is an Inglorious Basterds style romp featuring freed and escaped enslaved folks murdering their way through the Confederacy, I'm uninterested in this.

Ok, we got it. See you on a different thread then.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it based on the recent Pulitizer prize winning novel?

There was also a movie some years ago about this.

Is this Underground Airlines? About a world now with slavery in it and a black bounty hunter who tracks down runaways? I heard about it on NPR.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/05/books/ben-winters-underground-airlines.html

It's absolutely chilling but why is something like this racist? It's not a proposal to have slavery. I'm sure it's not going to be so tone deaf as to show this alternate future as being "fun" and "great". I was not quite intrigued enough to go out and buy the book but of course there are tons of questions piqued- how do other countries react to us in this future? etc. If people on here read this or watch this show and there is an intelligent discussion, I would follow along and think that's a good thing.

I read "Underground Airlines" and thought it was terrific. I don't think this series is based on "Underground Airlines" but I would love to watch this show - I love dystopian plots - and I would ALSO love to watch a show based on "Underground Airlines."

Thanks! Maybe I'll read it then!

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Anonymous wrote:Considering that the only PoC on GoT are slaves, or recently freed slaves, I don't trust these two with this project for one second.

More to the point, we do not need a show in which the South is glorified and Black folks are shown only in bondage.

Black people won't only be in bondage. They weren't only in bondage during the antebellum period. Even most popular literature and films show free AA, even ones that were prospering despite lack of political rights and the threat of violence. Please do some reading. Free blacks owned businesses throughout the South, formed civic associations, and in some cases were deemed indispensable by local government officials who resisted blanket legislation to force free blacks to move out of state.

So, you totally trust these two showrunners with that nuance? Unless this is an Inglorious Basterds style romp featuring freed and escaped enslaved folks murdering their way through the Confederacy, I'm uninterested in this.

Anonymous wrote:Considering that the only PoC on GoT are slaves, or recently freed slaves, I don't trust these two with this project for one second.

More to the point, we do not need a show in which the South is glorified and Black folks are shown only in bondage.

Black people won't only be in bondage. They weren't only in bondage during the antebellum period. Even most popular literature and films show free AA, even ones that were prospering despite lack of political rights and the threat of violence. Please do some reading. Free blacks owned businesses throughout the South, formed civic associations, and in some cases were deemed indispensable by local government officials who resisted blanket legislation to force free blacks to move out of state.

Considering that the only PoC on GoT are slaves, or recently freed slaves, I don't trust these two with this project for one second.

More to the point, we do not need a show in which the South is glorified and Black folks are shown only in bondage.

Slavery still exists. Don't kid yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it based on the recent Pulitizer prize winning novel?

There was also a movie some years ago about this.

Is this Underground Airlines? About a world now with slavery in it and a black bounty hunter who tracks down runaways? I heard about it on NPR.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/05/books/ben-winters-underground-airlines.html

It's absolutely chilling but why is something like this racist? It's not a proposal to have slavery. I'm sure it's not going to be so tone deaf as to show this alternate future as being "fun" and "great". I was not quite intrigued enough to go out and buy the book but of course there are tons of questions piqued- how do other countries react to us in this future? etc. If people on here read this or watch this show and there is an intelligent discussion, I would follow along and think that's a good thing.

I read "Underground Airlines" and thought it was terrific. I don't think this series is based on "Underground Airlines" but I would love to watch this show - I love dystopian plots - and I would ALSO love to watch a show based on "Underground Airlines."

Anonymous wrote:"Confederate" chronicles the events leading to the Third American Civil War. The series takes place in an alternate timeline, where the southern states have successfully seceded from the Union, giving rise to a nation in which slavery remains legal and has evolved into a modern institution. The story follows a broad swath of characters on both sides of the Mason-Dixon Demilitarized Zone -- freedom fighters, slave hunters, politicians, abolitionists, journalists, the executives of a slave-holding conglomerate and the families of people in their thrall."

Basically sounds like some bullshit to me.
Not interested.

THIS!

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Anonymous wrote:It's not dissimilar in concept to Man In The High Castle.

Yes. I am the PP. Or Handmaid's tale. It's not sexist to make something like that. I mean, it's not a world we want. It's just provocative stuff.

Right. It's classic what-if. Could be very interesting.

Sounds interesting. I'll definitely watch.

Will it show what a glorious nation this could be without the South?