Anonymous
Post 06/20/2017 10:52     Subject: 3 year old DS bites and pinches family members
Anonymous wrote:If he loves books, try the snack in the car as the pp suggested.

Have a quiet, unstimulating place in your home (try a fort or a play tent). When you guys get home, go straight there with him and read with him for 15 minutes or so before you start getting dinner etc.



Thanks I'm so happy I came here for advice.. This is such a great idea. I was so focus on the wrong things I was stressing out and feeling so sad. Thanks for helping me see the bigger picture this has really put me in a positive. And I can't wait to see the outcome
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2017 10:45     Subject: 3 year old DS bites and pinches family members
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is your child in a special ed classroom?

What do you do when he behaves this way?



We will ignore him but when it get out of hand we hold his hands until he stops. And then sit him alone on the couch and tell him things like soft touches and that we do not bite or pinch others it's hurts.


Respectfully, OP, I think that he's outgrown these methods. These are the methods you use on a young toddler. Now he needs something like a sticker chart for good behavior. A reward system that he can see -- Today Larlo did not head butt anyone! He got a sticker! Three stickers means a trip to the splash park! Can you count how many stickers


Develop mentally he's 15 months old. He's been seen by a behavior health specialist for a couple months now. I will try this method but like I mentioned before since the special education placement his not interested in learning new things. When I sit with him to teach him something new he becomes very frustrated because it something he doesn't want to participate in. I could sit with a book with him and he loves it but that's about it. PECS cards and other things he'll throw across the room and become frustrated.


All human beings respond to rewards, OP. If his rewards are books, then set him up for that. He sounds bored and frustrated and he's learned how to act out. I don't know if he's learned that in school and I'm not sure it really matters.



Ok I'm taking all this in. It's just really hard to understand the behavior because this kid never cries. He just attack. I will look more into what I'm doing and try different things. It was so helpful when he had some words. With all this advice I'm going to take it and figure out what works best for us. Thank you
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2017 10:38     Subject: 3 year old DS bites and pinches family members
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Can he eat a snack in the car on the way home?

I'm surprised they don't do lunch at school.


Well I said lunch but it's a snack before dinner. He has a huge appetite. So during the school year school is 8:30 to 3:00. Then after care 3:30 to 4:30. We live 2 mins away from the after care program. That's why that never came to mind but I will try thanks


That's a long day for any 3 year old, let alone one with SN. What does he do in after care? He could just be completely exhausted and overstimulated.



Yes I know it's a long day but I work. both of my children get out of school at the same time. Two different schools. He rides the school bus, I use the aftercare as a drop off point for the bus so I won't have to rush. He's never there for more than an hour. He's the only special needs kid and there's other 3 and 4 old so he'll be able to delevop social skills too. He's there for the summer too while I'm at work.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2017 10:02     Subject: 3 year old DS bites and pinches family members
If he loves books, try the snack in the car as the pp suggested.

Have a quiet, unstimulating place in your home (try a fort or a play tent). When you guys get home, go straight there with him and read with him for 15 minutes or so before you start getting dinner etc.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2017 10:00     Subject: 3 year old DS bites and pinches family members
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can he eat a snack in the car on the way home?

I'm surprised they don't do lunch at school.


Well I said lunch but it's a snack before dinner. He has a huge appetite. So during the school year school is 8:30 to 3:00. Then after care 3:30 to 4:30. We live 2 mins away from the after care program. That's why that never came to mind but I will try thanks


That's a long day for any 3 year old, let alone one with SN. What does he do in after care? He could just be completely exhausted and overstimulated.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2017 07:58     Subject: 3 year old DS bites and pinches family members
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is your child in a special ed classroom?

What do you do when he behaves this way?



We will ignore him but when it get out of hand we hold his hands until he stops. And then sit him alone on the couch and tell him things like soft touches and that we do not bite or pinch others it's hurts.


Respectfully, OP, I think that he's outgrown these methods. These are the methods you use on a young toddler. Now he needs something like a sticker chart for good behavior. A reward system that he can see -- Today Larlo did not head butt anyone! He got a sticker! Three stickers means a trip to the splash park! Can you count how many stickers


Develop mentally he's 15 months old. He's been seen by a behavior health specialist for a couple months now. I will try this method but like I mentioned before since the special education placement his not interested in learning new things. When I sit with him to teach him something new he becomes very frustrated because it something he doesn't want to participate in. I could sit with a book with him and he loves it but that's about it. PECS cards and other things he'll throw across the room and become frustrated.


All human beings respond to rewards, OP. If his rewards are books, then set him up for that. He sounds bored and frustrated and he's learned how to act out. I don't know if he's learned that in school and I'm not sure it really matters.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2017 07:54     Subject: 3 year old DS bites and pinches family members
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He's in a special ed classroom for children with behavior problems. All the children can talk but have behavior problems. He's the only child with Down syndrome and the only 3 year old. The other children's are 4 to 6. It's the wrong placement for him.


He is in the wrong placement. Down Syndrome and behavioral issues are very different needs. He will pick up on their behavior if that is all he knows and is exposed to.


A kid can pick up behaviors any where. I don't think there's enough info to know if it's the wrong placement. It's also much easier said than done. Placements aren't glass slippers with the perfect fit. Programs were designed for the masses, so nothing is a perfect fit.

This kid sounds completely zonked at the end of his day and has few ways to express his frustrations.



My son didn't meet any goals on his IEP this year. So it's safe to say it's the wrong placement. He will not be there next year.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2017 07:51     Subject: Re:3 year old DS bites and pinches family members
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is this on the Kids with SN forum? This sounds like a discipline problem, not a SN problem.


A 3 year old in a special ed preschool class with behavioral issues is a SN problem. Obviously.

OP, have you been able to track what kinds of situations precede the head banging?
. Most of the time it's when I'm not sticking to his schedule. If I make a stop after I pick him up from school instead of going directly home. When we get home from school I have to start on making his lunch while he watch me or let him watch TV. If I do anything else when I walk in the house like let the dog out before going in the kitchen he will get upset and bang his head. When things doesn't go his way. But the pinching and biting is random and done often.


Make his lunch the night before. He sounds tired and hungry. I would let him eat first thing and maybe letting him take a short nap. Make sure he's getting plenty of water b/c it's easy to become dehydrated.

Skip the tv. Even though it seems very passive, it's actually very stimulating to the brain. He needs some time to decompress. If he doesn't want to nap maybe just sit with him and read some books.


This is a great plan. The tv (which I know is bad) it's apart of "his schedule". He has a 8 year old brother and I allow them to do it together. Doctors told me to skip TV all together but it's hard now. He can use the remote to turn it on and everything. It's something I'm trying to work on. He doesn't use a cell phone or iPad I managed to keep that completely away. So if we're out he knows it's no other way to watch a show only at home.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2017 07:31     Subject: 3 year old DS bites and pinches family members
Anonymous wrote:Can he eat a snack in the car on the way home?

I'm surprised they don't do lunch at school.


Well I said lunch but it's a snack before dinner. He has a huge appetite. So during the school year school is 8:30 to 3:00. Then after care 3:30 to 4:30. We live 2 mins away from the after care program. That's why that never came to mind but I will try thanks
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2017 07:28     Subject: 3 year old DS bites and pinches family members
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is your child in a special ed classroom?

What do you do when he behaves this way?



We will ignore him but when it get out of hand we hold his hands until he stops. And then sit him alone on the couch and tell him things like soft touches and that we do not bite or pinch others it's hurts.


Respectfully, OP, I think that he's outgrown these methods. These are the methods you use on a young toddler. Now he needs something like a sticker chart for good behavior. A reward system that he can see -- Today Larlo did not head butt anyone! He got a sticker! Three stickers means a trip to the splash park! Can you count how many stickers


Develop mentally he's 15 months old. He's been seen by a behavior health specialist for a couple months now. I will try this method but like I mentioned before since the special education placement his not interested in learning new things. When I sit with him to teach him something new he becomes very frustrated because it something he doesn't want to participate in. I could sit with a book with him and he loves it but that's about it. PECS cards and other things he'll throw across the room and become frustrated.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2017 07:07     Subject: 3 year old DS bites and pinches family members
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your child is just three and has special needs it is likely that this is just his behavior. Not learned behaviors. How is his speech? My child with speech issues started hitting at the and still occasionally does at 5. It's not because other kids hits kids with special needs often have behavioral delays. Sometimes they look like not interacting or parallel playing for far too long. Other times they look like aggression. Regardless of the origin it's now your child's behavior problem so you have to deal with it and that's not going to be done by tracking down the source. Start behavioral therapy.


That has nothing to do with language delays especially at age 5.


That's nonsense kids are well known for having issues with speech delays.

For the love of god is this merld lady?
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When my son was in an inclusionary daycare he would use words 8 sign 5. And would sing songs and do hand motions for 5 little monkey and little tea pot. Now the only word he uses is Eat. And he's not interested in learning anything new. Since the new placement last August he has regressed a lot. When he was in daycare he learned a lot. Good and bad he picks up things so it is possible he learned this behavior from school because he didn't do it before


If he is regressing in this placement, it is the wrong placement and why would you leave him there? He needs a better program.


Early stages placed my child in this setting. This was his first year in elementary school. I expressed all my concerns at IEP meetings and I have an advocate. He had to finish the school year there. This school year coming he'll be in an inclusionary setting.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2017 05:55     Subject: 3 year old DS bites and pinches family members
Can he eat a snack in the car on the way home?

I'm surprised they don't do lunch at school.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2017 04:37     Subject: 3 year old DS bites and pinches family members
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is your child in a special ed classroom?

What do you do when he behaves this way?



We will ignore him but when it get out of hand we hold his hands until he stops. And then sit him alone on the couch and tell him things like soft touches and that we do not bite or pinch others it's hurts.


Respectfully, OP, I think that he's outgrown these methods. These are the methods you use on a young toddler. Now he needs something like a sticker chart for good behavior. A reward system that he can see -- Today Larlo did not head butt anyone! He got a sticker! Three stickers means a trip to the splash park! Can you count how many stickers you have, Larlo?
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2017 22:14     Subject: 3 year old DS bites and pinches family members
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He's in a special ed classroom for children with behavior problems. All the children can talk but have behavior problems. He's the only child with Down syndrome and the only 3 year old. The other children's are 4 to 6. It's the wrong placement for him.


He is in the wrong placement. Down Syndrome and behavioral issues are very different needs. He will pick up on their behavior if that is all he knows and is exposed to.


A kid can pick up behaviors any where. I don't think there's enough info to know if it's the wrong placement. It's also much easier said than done. Placements aren't glass slippers with the perfect fit. Programs were designed for the masses, so nothing is a perfect fit.

This kid sounds completely zonked at the end of his day and has few ways to express his frustrations.
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2017 21:37     Subject: 3 year old DS bites and pinches family members
Anonymous wrote:He's in a special ed classroom for children with behavior problems. All the children can talk but have behavior problems. He's the only child with Down syndrome and the only 3 year old. The other children's are 4 to 6. It's the wrong placement for him.


He is in the wrong placement. Down Syndrome and behavioral issues are very different needs. He will pick up on their behavior if that is all he knows and is exposed to.