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Anonymous wrote:Is it just me or is this list underwhelming? If the primary goal of having a child attend TJ is to get them into an elite college, I think many of those TJ parents to be (and their kids) might be in for a rude awakening. Certainly not all TJ parents are pushing their kids to attend TJ so Johnny can get into Harvard, Stanford or MIT but prolly a large number do think this way whether they admit it or not.

There are a lot of families in this area who are in the financial "donut hole," i.e. too rich to qualify for need-based FA, and too poor to pay full price.

This is why looking through a list like this gives you zero information about the quality of the students. Most donut hole families do not even look at elite schools because they cannot afford to send their kids there.

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This is exactly the situation we found ourselves in--$0 in need-based aid, yet unable to pay $70K/year out of pocket. We have saved enough to enable our kids to go to public universities and graduate with no debt, so that's why my TJ kid is headed to Virginia Tech for engineering.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just me or is this list underwhelming? If the primary goal of having a child attend TJ is to get them into an elite college, I think many of those TJ parents to be (and their kids) might be in for a rude awakening. Certainly not all TJ parents are pushing their kids to attend TJ so Johnny can get into Harvard, Stanford or MIT but prolly a large number do think this way whether they admit it or not.

There are a lot of families in this area who are in the financial "donut hole," i.e. too rich to qualify for need-based FA, and too poor to pay full price.

This is why looking through a list like this gives you zero information about the quality of the students. Most donut hole families do not even look at elite schools because they cannot afford to send their kids there.

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This is exactly the situation we found ourselves in--$0 in need-based aid, yet unable to pay $70K/year out of pocket. We have saved enough to enable our kids to go to public universities and graduate with no debt, so that's why my TJ kid is headed to Virginia Tech for engineering.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just me or is this list underwhelming? If the primary goal of having a child attend TJ is to get them into an elite college, I think many of those TJ parents to be (and their kids) might be in for a rude awakening. Certainly not all TJ parents are pushing their kids to attend TJ so Johnny can get into Harvard, Stanford or MIT but prolly a large number do think this way whether they admit it or not.

There are a lot of families in this area who are in the financial "donut hole," i.e. too rich to qualify for need-based FA, and too poor to pay full price.

This is why looking through a list like this gives you zero information about the quality of the students. Most donut hole families do not even look at elite schools because they cannot afford to send their kids there.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just me or is this list underwhelming? If the primary goal of having a child attend TJ is to get them into an elite college, I think many of those TJ parents to be (and their kids) might be in for a rude awakening. Certainly not all TJ parents are pushing their kids to attend TJ so Johnny can get into Harvard, Stanford or MIT but prolly a large number do think this way whether they admit it or not.

There are a lot of families in this area who are in the financial "donut hole," i.e. too rich to qualify for need-based FA, and too poor to pay full price.

This is why looking through a list like this gives you zero information about the quality of the students. Most donut hole families do not even look at elite schools because they cannot afford to send their kids there.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just me or is this list underwhelming? If the primary goal of having a child attend TJ is to get them into an elite college, I think many of those TJ parents to be (and their kids) might be in for a rude awakening. Certainly not all TJ parents are pushing their kids to attend TJ so Johnny can get into Harvard, Stanford or MIT but prolly a large number do think this way whether they admit it or not.

There are a lot of families in this area who are in the financial "donut hole," i.e. too rich to qualify for need-based FA, and too poor to pay full price.

This is why looking through a list like this gives you zero information about the quality of the students. Most donut hole families do not even look at elite schools because they cannot afford to send their kids there.

TJ has the best college placements in the country despite 71% of the graduates facing racial discrimination in college admissions and lacking legacy preferences.

Unfortunately the placements are declining due to a flawed, subjective admissions policy.

They found a problem 6 years ago. They completely revamped the test and selection and the TJ math curriculum. The kids that that affected have now graduated.

Maybe your kid was just the 481st best qualified applicant?

Flawed subjective admissions policy designed to increase black and hispanic students at TJ at the expense of qualified white and asian applicants.

I feel for the qualified kids who are bumped out by the 1/3 of TJ students requiring remedial math.

The so called "remedial math" six years ago was for some students taking TJ level Algebra II with trig. and maintaining B or B- average as opposed to B+ or A-. Not watered down Algebra I class kids at base school in danger of receiving D or F. See the difference?

You are wrong. They changed admissions standards several years ago...particularly math standards. The same standards used today.
What happened? Huge number of admitted students needed remedial math...unheard of before that. Solution? Add remedial math to TJ's curriculum...standards have not changed.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/one-third-of-tj-freshmen-need-math-science-remediation/article/623696

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just me or is this list underwhelming? If the primary goal of having a child attend TJ is to get them into an elite college, I think many of those TJ parents to be (and their kids) might be in for a rude awakening. Certainly not all TJ parents are pushing their kids to attend TJ so Johnny can get into Harvard, Stanford or MIT but prolly a large number do think this way whether they admit it or not.

There are a lot of families in this area who are in the financial "donut hole," i.e. too rich to qualify for need-based FA, and too poor to pay full price.

This is why looking through a list like this gives you zero information about the quality of the students. Most donut hole families do not even look at elite schools because they cannot afford to send their kids there.

TJ has the best college placements in the country despite 71% of the graduates facing racial discrimination in college admissions and lacking legacy preferences.

Unfortunately the placements are declining due to a flawed, subjective admissions policy.

They found a problem 6 years ago. They completely revamped the test and selection and the TJ math curriculum. The kids that that affected have now graduated.

Maybe your kid was just the 481st best qualified applicant?

Flawed subjective admissions policy designed to increase black and hispanic students at TJ at the expense of qualified white and asian applicants.

I feel for the qualified kids who are bumped out by the 1/3 of TJ students requiring remedial math.

The so called "remedial math" six years ago was for some students taking TJ level Algebra II with trig. and maintaining B or B- average as opposed to B+ or A-. Not watered down Algebra I class kids at base school in danger of receiving D or F. See the difference?

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just me or is this list underwhelming? If the primary goal of having a child attend TJ is to get them into an elite college, I think many of those TJ parents to be (and their kids) might be in for a rude awakening. Certainly not all TJ parents are pushing their kids to attend TJ so Johnny can get into Harvard, Stanford or MIT but prolly a large number do think this way whether they admit it or not.

There are a lot of families in this area who are in the financial "donut hole," i.e. too rich to qualify for need-based FA, and too poor to pay full price.

This is why looking through a list like this gives you zero information about the quality of the students. Most donut hole families do not even look at elite schools because they cannot afford to send their kids there.

TJ has the best college placements in the country despite 71% of the graduates facing racial discrimination in college admissions and lacking legacy preferences.

Unfortunately the placements are declining due to a flawed, subjective admissions policy.

They found a problem 6 years ago. They completely revamped the test and selection and the TJ math curriculum. The kids that that affected have now graduated.

Maybe your kid was just the 481st best qualified applicant?

Flawed subjective admissions policy designed to increase black and hispanic students at TJ at the expense of qualified white and asian applicants.

I feel for the qualified kids who are bumped out by the 1/3 of TJ students requiring remedial math.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just me or is this list underwhelming? If the primary goal of having a child attend TJ is to get them into an elite college, I think many of those TJ parents to be (and their kids) might be in for a rude awakening. Certainly not all TJ parents are pushing their kids to attend TJ so Johnny can get into Harvard, Stanford or MIT but prolly a large number do think this way whether they admit it or not.

There are a lot of families in this area who are in the financial "donut hole," i.e. too rich to qualify for need-based FA, and too poor to pay full price.

This is why looking through a list like this gives you zero information about the quality of the students. Most donut hole families do not even look at elite schools because they cannot afford to send their kids there.

TJ has the best college placements in the country despite 71% of the graduates facing racial discrimination in college admissions and lacking legacy preferences.

Unfortunately the placements are declining due to a flawed, subjective admissions policy.

They found a problem 6 years ago. They completely revamped the test and selection and the TJ math curriculum. The kids that that affected have now graduated.

Maybe your kid was just the 481st best qualified applicant?

Flawed subjective admissions policy designed to increase black and hispanic students at TJ at the expense of qualified white and asian applicants.

I feel for the qualified kids who are bumped out by the 1/3 of TJ students requiring remedial math.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just me or is this list underwhelming? If the primary goal of having a child attend TJ is to get them into an elite college, I think many of those TJ parents to be (and their kids) might be in for a rude awakening. Certainly not all TJ parents are pushing their kids to attend TJ so Johnny can get into Harvard, Stanford or MIT but prolly a large number do think this way whether they admit it or not.

There are a lot of families in this area who are in the financial "donut hole," i.e. too rich to qualify for need-based FA, and too poor to pay full price.

This is why looking through a list like this gives you zero information about the quality of the students. Most donut hole families do not even look at elite schools because they cannot afford to send their kids there.

TJ has the best college placements in the country despite 71% of the graduates facing racial discrimination in college admissions and lacking legacy preferences.

Unfortunately the placements are declining due to a flawed, subjective admissions policy.

Flawed subjective admissions policy designed to increase black and hispanic students at TJ at the expense of qualified white and asian applicants.

I feel for the qualified kids who are bumped out by the 1/3 of TJ students requiring remedial math.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just me or is this list underwhelming? If the primary goal of having a child attend TJ is to get them into an elite college, I think many of those TJ parents to be (and their kids) might be in for a rude awakening. Certainly not all TJ parents are pushing their kids to attend TJ so Johnny can get into Harvard, Stanford or MIT but prolly a large number do think this way whether they admit it or not.

There are a lot of families in this area who are in the financial "donut hole," i.e. too rich to qualify for need-based FA, and too poor to pay full price.

This is why looking through a list like this gives you zero information about the quality of the students. Most donut hole families do not even look at elite schools because they cannot afford to send their kids there.

TJ has the best college placements in the country despite 71% of the graduates facing racial discrimination in college admissions and lacking legacy preferences.

Unfortunately the placements are declining due to a flawed, subjective admissions policy.

Flawed subjective admissions policy designed to increase black and hispanic students at TJ at the expense of qualified white and asian applicants.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just me or is this list underwhelming? If the primary goal of having a child attend TJ is to get them into an elite college, I think many of those TJ parents to be (and their kids) might be in for a rude awakening. Certainly not all TJ parents are pushing their kids to attend TJ so Johnny can get into Harvard, Stanford or MIT but prolly a large number do think this way whether they admit it or not.

There are a lot of families in this area who are in the financial "donut hole," i.e. too rich to qualify for need-based FA, and too poor to pay full price.

This is why looking through a list like this gives you zero information about the quality of the students. Most donut hole families do not even look at elite schools because they cannot afford to send their kids there.

TJ has the best college placements in the country despite 71% of the graduates facing racial discrimination in college admissions and lacking legacy preferences.

Unfortunately the placements are declining due to a flawed, subjective admissions policy.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just me or is this list underwhelming? If the primary goal of having a child attend TJ is to get them into an elite college, I think many of those TJ parents to be (and their kids) might be in for a rude awakening. Certainly not all TJ parents are pushing their kids to attend TJ so Johnny can get into Harvard, Stanford or MIT but prolly a large number do think this way whether they admit it or not.

There are a lot of families in this area who are in the financial "donut hole," i.e. too rich to qualify for need-based FA, and too poor to pay full price.

This is why looking through a list like this gives you zero information about the quality of the students. Most donut hole families do not even look at elite schools because they cannot afford to send their kids there.

TJ has the best college placements in the country despite 71% of the graduates facing racial discrimination in college admissions and lacking legacy preferences.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just me or is this list underwhelming? If the primary goal of having a child attend TJ is to get them into an elite college, I think many of those TJ parents to be (and their kids) might be in for a rude awakening. Certainly not all TJ parents are pushing their kids to attend TJ so Johnny can get into Harvard, Stanford or MIT but prolly a large number do think this way whether they admit it or not.

There are a lot of families in this area who are in the financial "donut hole," i.e. too rich to qualify for need-based FA, and too poor to pay full price.

This is why looking through a list like this gives you zero information about the quality of the students. Most donut hole families do not even look at elite schools because they cannot afford to send their kids there.

Anonymous wrote:Is it just me or is this list underwhelming? If the primary goal of having a child attend TJ is to get them into an elite college, I think many of those TJ parents to be (and their kids) might be in for a rude awakening. Certainly not all TJ parents are pushing their kids to attend TJ so Johnny can get into Harvard, Stanford or MIT but prolly a large number do think this way whether they admit it or not.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just me or is this list underwhelming? If the primary goal of having a child attend TJ is to get them into an elite college, I think many of those TJ parents to be (and their kids) might be in for a rude awakening. Certainly not all TJ parents are pushing their kids to attend TJ so Johnny can get into Harvard, Stanford or MIT but prolly a large number do think this way whether they admit it or not.

The list is very impressive for a STEM school. About 10% are going to Ivy plus Stanford. But, going to TJ is not going to get you into an Ivy. There isn't a public school in the country that can consistently get move than it's top 10% or so into an Ivy. These are not legacy and development kids. Do you know anything about the USC, Cal Tech, Illinois, GA Tech (this is an off year for TJ and Ga Tech), CMU, Harvey Mudd, Michigan, Jons Hopkins, MIT, UWash, UT Austin and VT CS and engineering programs? VCU, Case Western, Rice's s direct medical school admissions programs. Several kids are going to SLAC that do the Columbia 3/2 engineering program. If this was full of top SLACs, you would be griping about how TJ kids aren't interested in STEM. This is a STEM powerhouse list. Almost all of the schools with more than one are a top ten stem something, or have a special STEM program, like direct med school admissions or 3/2 Columbia engineering.

You don't got to TJ to get into a top Ivy or SLAC. You go to for the STEM program. And their STEM placement is very good.

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The TJ apologist appears as always. Always spouts out about ALL TJ kids are wunderkinder just because they attend TJ. You don't have to constantly make excuses for these kids. The fact is, many applied to top schools, did not get in, and are attending safety schools, just like from every other high school. This is just fine, the kids will excel! Don't try to pretend that that's where they wanted to attend there all along because it is a "top school" in xyz. The TJ kids face an invisible quota to many of the top schools...124 were rejected by UVA this year.

Go ahead and post the list from any other school. Start with your kid first.