Anonymous
Post 06/22/2017 15:53     Subject: Final grade A- - 92.4%
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your kid is old enough to be in A2, your kid can talk to the teacher and see if there is something that they can do to earn the extra .1-- extra credit, test corrections or the like. In DC's school, some teachers will give extra work or just bump closed grades because they take pity on your kid-- although that might depend on whether you kid gave 100% vs missing the cutoff because of a lot of missing homework. Some teachers will not bump grades ever. It is entirely teacher dependent and entirely the teacher's call.

Your kid can try. But, he should ask for extra work, and not just a grade bump. And it must be your kid who talks to the teacher and works it out. You need to stay out of it. And under no circumstances do you go over the teacher's head. You want the principal or counselor to do what-- change the FCPS grading scale? Your kid earned an A- Good lesson for next time not to cut it so close.


This is all great advice. Go on SIS and see if there were any missing assignments or anything specific that could have made the difference


I'm a MS teacher. PP indicating it is at teacher's discretion is correct, at least in FCPS. I always look at quarter-end grades, and for kids who are this close, I consider (at least my perception of) their overall engagement with the course material -- if they (again, from my perception -- I know I can't possibly know the "truth" about each kid) seemed to be giving it their best, I would bump them up. I'd be less likely to bump if kids were missing more than one assignment.


What if the kid who did all the assignments had the low grade because they got things wrong on everything turned in and truly didn't understand the material, but the kid missing a few assignments totally understood the material, but was immature and forgetful with turning things in? If you are tweaking grades like that, are you ultimately grading maturity or knowledge of the subject matter?


Good question! Again, this is where the overall engagement (or my perception of it) comes in. A kid could choose not to do assignments/forget to turn them in (although that said, my class policy allows kids to turn in work for two weeks after the due date and I work closely with my chronically-forgetful ones to make sure they have their paper materials OR I already have access to them through Google) and engage in the in-class work, which I could observe and use to justify bumping up the grade. I tend to err on the side of giving kids as many opportunities as possible to turn in work, so by the time I'm looking this closely at grades, the student has had many chances to complete and submit the assignments.
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2017 23:11     Subject: Final grade A- - 92.4%
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your kid is old enough to be in A2, your kid can talk to the teacher and see if there is something that they can do to earn the extra .1-- extra credit, test corrections or the like. In DC's school, some teachers will give extra work or just bump closed grades because they take pity on your kid-- although that might depend on whether you kid gave 100% vs missing the cutoff because of a lot of missing homework. Some teachers will not bump grades ever. It is entirely teacher dependent and entirely the teacher's call.

Your kid can try. But, he should ask for extra work, and not just a grade bump. And it must be your kid who talks to the teacher and works it out. You need to stay out of it. And under no circumstances do you go over the teacher's head. You want the principal or counselor to do what-- change the FCPS grading scale? Your kid earned an A- Good lesson for next time not to cut it so close.


This is all great advice. Go on SIS and see if there were any missing assignments or anything specific that could have made the difference


I'm a MS teacher. PP indicating it is at teacher's discretion is correct, at least in FCPS. I always look at quarter-end grades, and for kids who are this close, I consider (at least my perception of) their overall engagement with the course material -- if they (again, from my perception -- I know I can't possibly know the "truth" about each kid) seemed to be giving it their best, I would bump them up. I'd be less likely to bump if kids were missing more than one assignment.


What if the kid who did all the assignments had the low grade because they got things wrong on everything turned in and truly didn't understand the material, but the kid missing a few assignments totally understood the material, but was immature and forgetful with turning things in? If you are tweaking grades like that, are you ultimately grading maturity or knowledge of the subject matter?
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2017 22:45     Subject: Final grade A- - 92.4%
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your kid is old enough to be in A2, your kid can talk to the teacher and see if there is something that they can do to earn the extra .1-- extra credit, test corrections or the like. In DC's school, some teachers will give extra work or just bump closed grades because they take pity on your kid-- although that might depend on whether you kid gave 100% vs missing the cutoff because of a lot of missing homework. Some teachers will not bump grades ever. It is entirely teacher dependent and entirely the teacher's call.

Your kid can try. But, he should ask for extra work, and not just a grade bump. And it must be your kid who talks to the teacher and works it out. You need to stay out of it. And under no circumstances do you go over the teacher's head. You want the principal or counselor to do what-- change the FCPS grading scale? Your kid earned an A- Good lesson for next time not to cut it so close.


This is all great advice. Go on SIS and see if there were any missing assignments or anything specific that could have made the difference


This. Ask the kid to talk to the teacher if he can do an extra assignment to get the grade up. Geometry is a HS credit so why miss out on an A if you can help it?


+1. If your child wants the A, your child should approach the teacher. I suspect if your child is otherwise a fairly good student and is asking about doing extra work to earn a grade improvement, the teacher will at least seriously consider it.

If the teacher says there are no additional opportunities for extra work to raise the grade, at least your child tried and the answer will be a life lesson.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2017 18:09     Subject: Final grade A- - 92.4%
The school/teacher may have determined they didn't want one more student to receive an "A". The grading scale is practically irrelevant but grade distributions, when they are being managed, is what's relevant.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2017 16:39     Subject: Final grade A- - 92.4%
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your kid is old enough to be in A2, your kid can talk to the teacher and see if there is something that they can do to earn the extra .1-- extra credit, test corrections or the like. In DC's school, some teachers will give extra work or just bump closed grades because they take pity on your kid-- although that might depend on whether you kid gave 100% vs missing the cutoff because of a lot of missing homework. Some teachers will not bump grades ever. It is entirely teacher dependent and entirely the teacher's call.

Your kid can try. But, he should ask for extra work, and not just a grade bump. And it must be your kid who talks to the teacher and works it out. You need to stay out of it. And under no circumstances do you go over the teacher's head. You want the principal or counselor to do what-- change the FCPS grading scale? Your kid earned an A- Good lesson for next time not to cut it so close.


This is all great advice. Go on SIS and see if there were any missing assignments or anything specific that could have made the difference


I'm a MS teacher. PP indicating it is at teacher's discretion is correct, at least in FCPS. I always look at quarter-end grades, and for kids who are this close, I consider (at least my perception of) their overall engagement with the course material -- if they (again, from my perception -- I know I can't possibly know the "truth" about each kid) seemed to be giving it their best, I would bump them up. I'd be less likely to bump if kids were missing more than one assignment.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2017 08:55     Subject: Re:Final grade A- - 92.4%
This kind of pressure on kids is truly a sickness. I have a kid who was a National Merit Scholar and went to college on a full merit scholarship. We too value education, but not at the expense of mental health. You people need help.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2017 08:45     Subject: Final grade A- - 92.4%
Offer sexual favors.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2017 08:23     Subject: Final grade A- - 92.4%
Anonymous wrote:Who gives a crap...High school does not matter after college. An A or B here or there does not matter.


DP-- people in the AAP forum instead of VA public school, and freaking out about an A- are almost certainly worried that this will doom their kid's TJ chances. It won't. My kid was admitted with an A- in Algebra I. (ADHD kid and makes stupid mistakes when he rushes). BUT-- Quit overaccelerating your kids. It would have been an easy A if OP's kid wasn't rushing through to get to TJ. TJ does not require a lot of math. It requires that you really, really understand the math you have. An A- does look bad in an overaccelerated kib, because it looks like they may not have the foundation to do well.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2017 07:10     Subject: Final grade A- - 92.4%
Who gives a crap...High school does not matter after college. An A or B here or there does not matter.
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2017 23:35     Subject: Final grade A- - 92.4%
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your kid is old enough to be in A2, your kid can talk to the teacher and see if there is something that they can do to earn the extra .1-- extra credit, test corrections or the like. In DC's school, some teachers will give extra work or just bump closed grades because they take pity on your kid-- although that might depend on whether you kid gave 100% vs missing the cutoff because of a lot of missing homework. Some teachers will not bump grades ever. It is entirely teacher dependent and entirely the teacher's call.

Your kid can try. But, he should ask for extra work, and not just a grade bump. And it must be your kid who talks to the teacher and works it out. You need to stay out of it. And under no circumstances do you go over the teacher's head. You want the principal or counselor to do what-- change the FCPS grading scale? Your kid earned an A- Good lesson for next time not to cut it so close.


This is all great advice. Go on SIS and see if there were any missing assignments or anything specific that could have made the difference


This. Ask the kid to talk to the teacher if he can do an extra assignment to get the grade up. Geometry is a HS credit so why miss out on an A if you can help it?
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2017 12:11     Subject: Final grade A- - 92.4%
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a college professor and every semester there's a student or two in this situation. It is what it is. There's a line and you have to draw it somewhere. If you move it down there's a whole new group of students in the same situation. It's an important life lesson: you can't manipulate or fake your way around a credit score, right?

Let your kid use this as a life experience. They did well. Almost an A. Congratulate them for this. But teach them that the grade earned is the grade earned. Anything else would be a disservice in the long run, IMO.


+100 That is life.


+2

This kind of thing happens in life all the time.
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2017 12:03     Subject: Final grade A- - 92.4%
Anonymous wrote:Just to be clear, if the cut off for an A is 93%, then your child is 0.6 away, not .1. The lee-way is already there in the .5 available for rounding up. Your child missed it. It's not the end of the world - an A- in Algebra 2 is perfectly respectable!


Yes, this and the part about "lesson for life."
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2017 11:55     Subject: Re:Final grade A- - 92.4%
Unacceptable. Get that grade rounded up by all reasonable means necessary.
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2017 11:40     Subject: Final grade A- - 92.4%
$200?
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2017 11:36     Subject: Final grade A- - 92.4%
Just to be clear, if the cut off for an A is 93%, then your child is 0.6 away, not .1. The lee-way is already there in the .5 available for rounding up. Your child missed it. It's not the end of the world - an A- in Algebra 2 is perfectly respectable!