that map will NEVER happen. Yorktown folks will fight to keep their kids away from a kemore HS and they will win. As it is, it is hard enough to keep north of 50 kids in Kemore as a middle school.

One of reasons for not putting the HS at kemore was the lack of space for facilties and the fact that it would be a high FARMs school. So, now this wealthier area is willing to do it without the facilities to avoid a bus ride to WF or WL and avoid WF all together.

To me, if the county would allow busing to lower the FARMs rates at WF, then we could look simply at facilities and not at demographics.

What about if Wakefield drew more from the North? This was a map drawn back when this board was discussing Kenmore, but you get the idea -- slide the red area down a bit to the south and move the southern "thumb" boarder back over toward Arlington Heights -- would that balance better?

Anonymous wrote:So there wasn't a vote last night then about the 4th HS?

Last night was the final staff recommendation and public comment. The vote is Thursday the 29th.

One idea they tossed around was that ArlTech could be the "school within the school" in the same way that IB is an option inside the comprehensive W-L. Kenmore has the most land, and from that perspective makes the most sense, but for now it's clearly off the table. The county has to deal with the infrastructure improvements and the neighborhood has to recognize that it's going to happen eventually.

Anonymous wrote:I live in Alcova - I don't think people in N Arlington realize who rapidly the area around the Ed Center is gentrifying - in fact, it is mostly gentrified. Many people already send their children to W-L. If you aren't zoned for Henry, the elem that is moving, a lot of those students are transfers to other schools.

I think a high school at the Ed Center would be a stretch, but I would still support it. It would take the whole piece of land: the Ed Center, Library, and Human Services, along with Henry too though. Arlington is way too small to support all of this for long though. It would turn Wakefield into a low SES school, instead of the slow balancing that is happening.

Do you mean the Career Center?

I live in Alcova - I don't think people in N Arlington realize who rapidly the area around the Ed Center is gentrifying - in fact, it is mostly gentrified. Many people already send their children to W-L. If you aren't zoned for Henry, the elem that is moving, a lot of those students are transfers to other schools.

I think a high school at the Ed Center would be a stretch, but I would still support it. It would take the whole piece of land: the Ed Center, Library, and Human Services, along with Henry too though. Arlington is way too small to support all of this for long though. It would turn Wakefield into a low SES school, instead of the slow balancing that is happening.

To put a comprehensive high school at the Career Center site, you would surely have to move the Career Center itself, Arlington Tech, the county library, and the elementary school. Wouldn't you?

My neighborhood (Alcova Heights) wouldalmost certainly be zoned to that new comprehensive high school, and I could accept not having a pool, or even a football stadium, but I would definitely want plenty of field space.

I'm not sure where all of the other displaced programs/facilities/schools would go, but the county could probably find spaces for most. Finding a new site for an elementary school would be a big problem, though.

I didn't watch this SB meeting, but why is it that Kenmore is a non-starter? Is it just the neighborhood opposition and the traffic issues? We'll surely have to better utilize that 32 acre land plot at some point. Shouldn't we start working on a plan for it now?

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Anonymous wrote:This is the Arlington Heights folks trying to get out of Wakefield. Folks in Oakridge zone will support it too because it will get that wealthy area out of Wakefield.

If this school goes in, Wakefield's FARMs rates will go up dramatically.

Then where do you propose putting the high school?? There are only so many places to put it-Kenmore, Career Center, and Ed center. None of those sites solve the problem you are talking about.

Bullshit. Kenmore absolutely solves that problem. But it would involve pulling from Yorktown.

I proposed putting a 4th at Kenmore and then having a random lottery around the various surrounding planning units so that the school wouldn't be disproportionately FARMS. But, the SB seems to have shot down the possibility of that school with the stupid matrix slide show they marched out during the last work sessions/SB meetings in May etc. They said something like the approvals for egress would take forever b/c they have to also get Fairfax county's sign off. If they knew all this, why didn't they start that process a while ago? Also, what's this crap about Murphy wanting a 4 year contract renewal?!!

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Anonymous wrote:This is the Arlington Heights folks trying to get out of Wakefield. Folks in Oakridge zone will support it too because it will get that wealthy area out of Wakefield.

If this school goes in, Wakefield's FARMs rates will go up dramatically.

Then where do you propose putting the high school?? There are only so many places to put it-Kenmore, Career Center, and Ed center. None of those sites solve the problem you are talking about.

Bullshit. Kenmore absolutely solves that problem. But it would involve pulling from Yorktown.

So there wasn't a vote last night then about the 4th HS?

Anonymous wrote:This is the Arlington Heights folks trying to get out of Wakefield. Folks in Oakridge zone will support it too because it will get that wealthy area out of Wakefield.

If this school goes in, Wakefield's FARMs rates will go up dramatically.

Then where do you propose putting the high school?? There are only so many places to put it-Kenmore, Career Center, and Ed center. None of those sites solve the problem you are talking about.

This is the Arlington Heights folks trying to get out of Wakefield. Folks in Oakridge zone will support it too because it will get that wealthy area out of Wakefield.

If this school goes in, Wakefield's FARMs rates will go up dramatically.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you people forgetting that there is an elementary school there that will need field space? Seems like you are.

Those who were advocating for a comprehensive HS at the CC were also saying they would need to find a different location for Montessori so the HS could use the entire CC/Henry site.

The county is in need of 3-4 new elementary schools. That's just not a realistic option.
Of course those assholes don't care. They will all be redrawn to the shiny new elementary school.
Arlington heights speakers impressive? Hardly. Just more of the selfish arlington way...

Anonymous wrote:Are you people forgetting that there is an elementary school there that will need field space? Seems like you are.

Those who were advocating for a comprehensive HS at the CC were also saying they would need to find a different location for Montessori so the HS could use the entire CC/Henry site.

Are you people forgetting that there is an elementary school there that will need field space? Seems like you are.

Wouldn't we have to raze the building to the ground anyway to build underground parking if you're going to stick 2000 kids in there? So can't you move the equipment for the labs elsewhere?

I don't understand what kind of comprehensive high school a 1300 neighborhood school plus 800 arlington tech seats would be. Maybe that's a failure of my imagination.