Anonymous
Post 05/23/2017 21:05     Subject: Where is Kingsbury moving to?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How many students are enrolled at Kingsbury now?

Per the lease/sale brochure, their certificate of occupancy allows 300 people.

I know there are 75 students that DCPS has placed at Kingsbury.

Just for comparison, LAMB has 426 students this year.


This is an apples to oranges comparison.

Special Need children NEED small numbers of students in classes. They may need additional spaces to deliver OT, ST, or counseling that is not being used as a class space. It's not the sheer number that a building can hold.

Kingsbury has children who private pay from DC, MD, and VA. They also have children placed there through the public schools.

This is so sad to hear. SN kids will probably get screwed over. It sounds like as usual the DC government has it's head up it's a$$. Kingsbury parents, where are you? What's the plan? Why did you not come on here and tell us what was going on? Speaking just for myself as a parent with a SN child, I would come to support Kingsbury at public hearings. Let us know what you need.



This is being driven by Kingsbury's Board of Director. Read the real estate posting listed above -- they put their building up for sale and lease[b]. The ad suggested it would be a good site for condos, senior housing or a school.

Plenty you can blame on DC government -- but this decision is not one of them. The 300 refers to the maximum number of people the building is allowed to hold by DCRA as a school.

If LAMB wants to move all its students there eventually, they would have to build an addition or somehow remodel.


I'm sure there may be some financial hardship on the part of Kingsbury and that may be driving this decision. However, it provides unique services for kids who have not been able to be served by public school programs. This would be on DC if they let these kids fall through the cracks. This would be the exact time for a public private partnership.


It doesn't sound like Kingsbury has asked DC for help in any way, and as the other poster pointed out no one is making them do it, including DC. It may be a bad decision, or not, and perhaps they felt like their hand was forced. As fewer children are placed in private placements by DCPS, they may be forced to evolve. I'm just hoping that they have the management talent in place to handle this transition.

Or, maybe they can get a sweetheart deal on a school building like Lab got at the Foxhall road old Hardy School, passed as emergency legislation a couple days before Christmas -- just another option...



Lab didn't get a "sweetheart deal." DC had rented the space to a private school that folded. Lab took the building over--one that doesn't have a gym or a lunch room and DC Mayor Bowser won't extend their lease, so they can't make upgrades to the school:
http://www.thegeorgetowndish.com/thedish/mayor-delays-hardy-lease-negotiation

Another example of how DC screws over SN kids.


I'm fascinated by your assessment of the Lab School situation. The article you site seems to suggest that the mayor supports a more transparent process that includes public input and is consistent with the law regarding disposition of school buildings. How is this an example of D.C. Screwing over SN kids?
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2017 18:11     Subject: Where is Kingsbury moving to?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How many students are enrolled at Kingsbury now?

Per the lease/sale brochure, their certificate of occupancy allows 300 people.

I know there are 75 students that DCPS has placed at Kingsbury.

Just for comparison, LAMB has 426 students this year.


This is an apples to oranges comparison.

Special Need children NEED small numbers of students in classes. They may need additional spaces to deliver OT, ST, or counseling that is not being used as a class space. It's not the sheer number that a building can hold.

Kingsbury has children who private pay from DC, MD, and VA. They also have children placed there through the public schools.

This is so sad to hear. SN kids will probably get screwed over. It sounds like as usual the DC government has it's head up it's a$$. Kingsbury parents, where are you? What's the plan? Why did you not come on here and tell us what was going on? Speaking just for myself as a parent with a SN child, I would come to support Kingsbury at public hearings. Let us know what you need.



This is being driven by Kingsbury's Board of Director. Read the real estate posting listed above -- they put their building up for sale and lease[b]. The ad suggested it would be a good site for condos, senior housing or a school.

Plenty you can blame on DC government -- but this decision is not one of them. The 300 refers to the maximum number of people the building is allowed to hold by DCRA as a school.

If LAMB wants to move all its students there eventually, they would have to build an addition or somehow remodel.


I'm sure there may be some financial hardship on the part of Kingsbury and that may be driving this decision. However, it provides unique services for kids who have not been able to be served by public school programs. This would be on DC if they let these kids fall through the cracks. This would be the exact time for a public private partnership.


It doesn't sound like Kingsbury has asked DC for help in any way, and as the other poster pointed out no one is making them do it, including DC. It may be a bad decision, or not, and perhaps they felt like their hand was forced. As fewer children are placed in private placements by DCPS, they may be forced to evolve. I'm just hoping that they have the management talent in place to handle this transition.

Or, maybe they can get a sweetheart deal on a school building like Lab got at the Foxhall road old Hardy School, passed as emergency legislation a couple days before Christmas -- just another option...



Lab didn't get a "sweetheart deal." DC had rented the space to a private school that folded. Lab took the building over--one that doesn't have a gym or a lunch room and DC Mayor Bowser won't extend their lease, so they can't make upgrades to the school:
http://www.thegeorgetowndish.com/thedish/mayor-delays-hardy-lease-negotiation

Another example of how DC screws over SN kids.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2017 18:05     Subject: Re:Where is Kingsbury moving to?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kingsbury told parents that the building will be sold to a "bilingual charter school." Starting in 2018-2019 and continuing for the next 6 years, Kingsbury and the other school (presumably LAMB) will co-locate. Kingsbury currently uses only half of its building, so there's plenty of space. During those 6 years, the board of trustees will decide how to use the money raises through the sale of the building -- to buy, lease, or build a space in their current neighborhood.


Wow, this is a big decision to have made under an interim head of school. Has enrollment gone down in the last year? Up until then I suppose some of the lower level was underused, but I wouldn't have said they use only half the building. Plus, the addition was only completed a few years ago.




Quote from the email to parents:

"In the short term, proceeds from the sale of the building will enable Kingsbury to fulfill two critically important needs. The first is to invest further in our current programs and teaching staff. Retaining great teachers and building on quality programs will help Kingsbury thrive. The second is to allow us to carefully build our enrollment with students who are a good fit for our school and whom Kingsbury can serve well."

So does that mean that they will be changing their admission criteria?


If they spend the proceeds on that, they'll soon find that they have a new critical need, which is money to buy a site for the school.

Building enrollment means there must have been a drop. DCPS has been moving away from private placements for years. But maybe it's gotten worse. Looks like Peri-Anne left just in time? But if there is an enrollment drop they should have known it was coming in the spring, before she left.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2017 17:39     Subject: Where is Kingsbury moving to?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How many students are enrolled at Kingsbury now?

Per the lease/sale brochure, their certificate of occupancy allows 300 people.

I know there are 75 students that DCPS has placed at Kingsbury.

Just for comparison, LAMB has 426 students this year.


This is an apples to oranges comparison.

Special Need children NEED small numbers of students in classes. They may need additional spaces to deliver OT, ST, or counseling that is not being used as a class space. It's not the sheer number that a building can hold.

Kingsbury has children who private pay from DC, MD, and VA. They also have children placed there through the public schools.

This is so sad to hear. SN kids will probably get screwed over. It sounds like as usual the DC government has it's head up it's a$$. Kingsbury parents, where are you? What's the plan? Why did you not come on here and tell us what was going on? Speaking just for myself as a parent with a SN child, I would come to support Kingsbury at public hearings. Let us know what you need.



This is being driven by Kingsbury's Board of Director. Read the real estate posting listed above -- they put their building up for sale and lease[b]. The ad suggested it would be a good site for condos, senior housing or a school.

Plenty you can blame on DC government -- but this decision is not one of them. The 300 refers to the maximum number of people the building is allowed to hold by DCRA as a school.

If LAMB wants to move all its students there eventually, they would have to build an addition or somehow remodel.


I'm sure there may be some financial hardship on the part of Kingsbury and that may be driving this decision. However, it provides unique services for kids who have not been able to be served by public school programs. This would be on DC if they let these kids fall through the cracks. This would be the exact time for a public private partnership.


It doesn't sound like Kingsbury has asked DC for help in any way, and as the other poster pointed out no one is making them do it, including DC. It may be a bad decision, or not, and perhaps they felt like their hand was forced. As fewer children are placed in private placements by DCPS, they may be forced to evolve. I'm just hoping that they have the management talent in place to handle this transition.

Or, maybe they can get a sweetheart deal on a school building like Lab got at the Foxhall road old Hardy School, passed as emergency legislation a couple days before Christmas -- just another option...


Anonymous
Post 05/22/2017 17:29     Subject: Where is Kingsbury moving to?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How many students are enrolled at Kingsbury now?

Per the lease/sale brochure, their certificate of occupancy allows 300 people.

I know there are 75 students that DCPS has placed at Kingsbury.

Just for comparison, LAMB has 426 students this year.


This is an apples to oranges comparison.

Special Need children NEED small numbers of students in classes. They may need additional spaces to deliver OT, ST, or counseling that is not being used as a class space. It's not the sheer number that a building can hold.

Kingsbury has children who private pay from DC, MD, and VA. They also have children placed there through the public schools.

This is so sad to hear. SN kids will probably get screwed over. It sounds like as usual the DC government has it's head up it's a$$. Kingsbury parents, where are you? What's the plan? Why did you not come on here and tell us what was going on? Speaking just for myself as a parent with a SN child, I would come to support Kingsbury at public hearings. Let us know what you need.



This is being driven by Kingsbury's Board of Director. Read the real estate posting listed above -- they put their building up for sale and lease[b]. The ad suggested it would be a good site for condos, senior housing or a school.

Plenty you can blame on DC government -- but this decision is not one of them. The 300 refers to the maximum number of people the building is allowed to hold by DCRA as a school.

If LAMB wants to move all its students there eventually, they would have to build an addition or somehow remodel.


I'm sure there may be some financial hardship on the part of Kingsbury and that may be driving this decision. However, it provides unique services for kids who have not been able to be served by public school programs. This would be on DC if they let these kids fall through the cracks. This would be the exact time for a public private partnership.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2017 16:58     Subject: Where is Kingsbury moving to?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How many students are enrolled at Kingsbury now?

Per the lease/sale brochure, their certificate of occupancy allows 300 people.

I know there are 75 students that DCPS has placed at Kingsbury.

Just for comparison, LAMB has 426 students this year.


This is an apples to oranges comparison.

Special Need children NEED small numbers of students in classes. They may need additional spaces to deliver OT, ST, or counseling that is not being used as a class space. It's not the sheer number that a building can hold.

Kingsbury has children who private pay from DC, MD, and VA. They also have children placed there through the public schools.

This is so sad to hear. SN kids will probably get screwed over. It sounds like as usual the DC government has it's head up it's a$$. Kingsbury parents, where are you? What's the plan? Why did you not come on here and tell us what was going on? Speaking just for myself as a parent with a SN child, I would come to support Kingsbury at public hearings. Let us know what you need.


Kingsbury's Costar listing http://www.costar.com/costarconnect/MasterPage/Main.aspx?SiteId=22170&CheckSum=40715
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2017 16:57     Subject: Where is Kingsbury moving to?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How many students are enrolled at Kingsbury now?

Per the lease/sale brochure, their certificate of occupancy allows 300 people.

I know there are 75 students that DCPS has placed at Kingsbury.

Just for comparison, LAMB has 426 students this year.


This is an apples to oranges comparison.

Special Need children NEED small numbers of students in classes. They may need additional spaces to deliver OT, ST, or counseling that is not being used as a class space. It's not the sheer number that a building can hold.

Kingsbury has children who private pay from DC, MD, and VA. They also have children placed there through the public schools.

This is so sad to hear. SN kids will probably get screwed over. It sounds like as usual the DC government has it's head up it's a$$. Kingsbury parents, where are you? What's the plan? Why did you not come on here and tell us what was going on? Speaking just for myself as a parent with a SN child, I would come to support Kingsbury at public hearings. Let us know what you need.



This is being driven by Kingsbury's Board of Director. Read the real estate posting listed above -- they put their building up for sale and lease[b]. The ad suggested it would be a good site for condos, senior housing or a school.

Plenty you can blame on DC government -- but this decision is not one of them. The 300 refers to the maximum number of people the building is allowed to hold by DCRA as a school.

If LAMB wants to move all its students there eventually, they would have to build an addition or somehow remodel.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2017 16:46     Subject: Where is Kingsbury moving to?

Anonymous wrote:How many students are enrolled at Kingsbury now?

Per the lease/sale brochure, their certificate of occupancy allows 300 people.

I know there are 75 students that DCPS has placed at Kingsbury.

Just for comparison, LAMB has 426 students this year.


This is an apples to oranges comparison.

Special Need children NEED small numbers of students in classes. They may need additional spaces to deliver OT, ST, or counseling that is not being used as a class space. It's not the sheer number that a building can hold.

Kingsbury has children who private pay from DC, MD, and VA. They also have children placed there through the public schools.

This is so sad to hear. SN kids will probably get screwed over. It sounds like as usual the DC government has it's head up it's a$$. Kingsbury parents, where are you? What's the plan? Why did you not come on here and tell us what was going on? Speaking just for myself as a parent with a SN child, I would come to support Kingsbury at public hearings. Let us know what you need.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2017 16:41     Subject: Re:Where is Kingsbury moving to?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kingsbury told parents that the building will be sold to a "bilingual charter school." Starting in 2018-2019 and continuing for the next 6 years, Kingsbury and the other school (presumably LAMB) will co-locate. Kingsbury currently uses only half of its building, so there's plenty of space. During those 6 years, the board of trustees will decide how to use the money raises through the sale of the building -- to buy, lease, or build a space in their current neighborhood.


Wow, this is a big decision to have made under an interim head of school. Has enrollment gone down in the last year? Up until then I suppose some of the lower level was underused, but I wouldn't have said they use only half the building. Plus, the addition was only completed a few years ago.




Quote from the email to parents:

"In the short term, proceeds from the sale of the building will enable Kingsbury to fulfill two critically important needs. The first is to invest further in our current programs and teaching staff. Retaining great teachers and building on quality programs will help Kingsbury thrive. The second is to allow us to carefully build our enrollment with students who are a good fit for our school and whom Kingsbury can serve well."

So does that mean that they will be changing their admission criteria?
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2017 16:38     Subject: Where is Kingsbury moving to?

Anonymous wrote:How many students are enrolled at Kingsbury now?

Per the lease/sale brochure, their certificate of occupancy allows 300 people.

I know there are 75 students that DCPS has placed at Kingsbury.

Just for comparison, LAMB has 426 students this year.


How will they fit into the Kingsbury site, then?
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2017 16:31     Subject: Where is Kingsbury moving to?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How many students are enrolled at Kingsbury now?

Per the lease/sale brochure, their certificate of occupancy allows 300 people.

I know there are 75 students that DCPS has placed at Kingsbury.

Just for comparison, LAMB has 426 students this year.


Yeah the numbers are for sure not adding up...


LAMB is now operating in 2 buildings; and next fall they are adding a third. So they could move some, but not all students in initially. But they'd still need to build eventually.

Anonymous
Post 05/22/2017 16:27     Subject: Where is Kingsbury moving to?

Anonymous wrote:How many students are enrolled at Kingsbury now?

Per the lease/sale brochure, their certificate of occupancy allows 300 people.

I know there are 75 students that DCPS has placed at Kingsbury.

Just for comparison, LAMB has 426 students this year.


Yeah the numbers are for sure not adding up...
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2017 14:12     Subject: Where is Kingsbury moving to?

How many students are enrolled at Kingsbury now?

Per the lease/sale brochure, their certificate of occupancy allows 300 people.

I know there are 75 students that DCPS has placed at Kingsbury.

Just for comparison, LAMB has 426 students this year.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2017 13:35     Subject: Where is Kingsbury moving to?

PP again. We no longer have a kid at Kingsbury, so I only know what I'm seeing here, but what I see makes me really concerned as to what Kingsbury is doing and what the motivation is for the sale. Sharing the space for 6 years and deciding later where to relocate doesn't sound like a plan, as much as it sounds like the absence of a plan.

The most recent 990's online show a surplus of $11k for the previous year and a deficit of $500k for the one before that, following a number of years of surpluses. I'm hoping that the finances are stable, and that they will not use the proceeds of the sale for operating expenses and leave themselves in a dead-end situation.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2017 13:20     Subject: Re:Where is Kingsbury moving to?

Anonymous wrote:Kingsbury told parents that the building will be sold to a "bilingual charter school." Starting in 2018-2019 and continuing for the next 6 years, Kingsbury and the other school (presumably LAMB) will co-locate. Kingsbury currently uses only half of its building, so there's plenty of space. During those 6 years, the board of trustees will decide how to use the money raises through the sale of the building -- to buy, lease, or build a space in their current neighborhood.


Wow, this is a big decision to have made under an interim head of school. Has enrollment gone down in the last year? Up until then I suppose some of the lower level was underused, but I wouldn't have said they use only half the building. Plus, the addition was only completed a few years ago.