Anonymous
05/17/2017 19:46
Subject: How do you buy a gun in VA?
Anonymous wrote:Statistics from the Violence Policy Center show a gun in the home is 7,428 X more likely to kill you or a family member than be used to stop a criminal.
What that means, for those who can't math, is that for each criminal stopped by a home owner, 7,428 innocent people are killed.
The Southern Povery Law Center conducted a survey and found that 96.6% of all admitted gun owners are either slightly or very racist.
Is that the company you want to keep?
That isn't true. You do realize that the VPC is an extremely biased advocacy group don't you? You look as ridiculous as someone citing the NRA as a source of unbiased facts on this issue.
Anonymous
05/17/2017 19:10
Subject: How do you buy a gun in VA?
Anonymous wrote:Statistics from the Violence Policy Center show a gun in the home is 7,428 X more likely to kill you or a family member than be used to stop a criminal.
What that means, for those who can't math, is that for each criminal stopped by a home owner, 7,428 innocent people are killed.
The Southern Povery Law Center conducted a survey and found that 96.6% of all admitted gun owners are either slightly or very racist.
Is that the company you want to keep?
Generally, no. But with the increasing government instability I want to be prepared.
Anonymous
05/17/2017 19:08
Subject: How do you buy a gun in VA?
Anonymous wrote:Statistics from the Violence Policy Center show a gun in the home is 7,428 X more likely to kill you or a family member than be used to stop a criminal.
What that means, for those who can't math, is that for each criminal stopped by a home owner, 7,428 innocent people are killed.
The Southern Povery Law Center conducted a survey and found that 96.6% of all admitted gun owners are either slightly or very racist.
Is that the company you want to keep?
"For those who can't math . . "
-can you be any more patronizing??!
Anonymous
05/17/2017 16:53
Subject: How do you buy a gun in VA?
Statistics from the Violence Policy Center show a gun in the home is 7,428 X more likely to kill you or a family member than be used to stop a criminal.
What that means, for those who can't math, is that for each criminal stopped by a home owner, 7,428 innocent people are killed.
The Southern Povery Law Center conducted a survey and found that 96.6% of all admitted gun owners are either slightly or very racist.
Is that the company you want to keep?
What that means, for those who can't math, is that for each criminal stopped by a home owner, 7,428 innocent people are killed.
The Southern Povery Law Center conducted a survey and found that 96.6% of all admitted gun owners are either slightly or very racist.
Is that the company you want to keep?
Anonymous
05/17/2017 12:51
Subject: Re:How do you buy a gun in VA?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, we have guns. My DH is federal law enforcement so he has several service weapons plus his personal weapons. I have a Glock 43 9 mm and a conceal carry permit. We have several hunting rifles because most of the boys and men in our family hunt. Take a class before you buy a gun. They'll help you select the right weapon and teach you how to safely use it.
Thanks. Have you and your kids taken training too?
They have. They have all taken several gun safety courses. One of my kids is an NRA Range Safety Officer. He became certified right after he got his Eagle Scout so that he could supervise Boy Scouts when they were at the range.
Thank you. Very helpful.
Anonymous
05/17/2017 12:48
Subject: Re:How do you buy a gun in VA?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, we have guns. My DH is federal law enforcement so he has several service weapons plus his personal weapons. I have a Glock 43 9 mm and a conceal carry permit. We have several hunting rifles because most of the boys and men in our family hunt. Take a class before you buy a gun. They'll help you select the right weapon and teach you how to safely use it.
Thanks. Have you and your kids taken training too?
They have. They have all taken several gun safety courses. One of my kids is an NRA Range Safety Officer. He became certified right after he got his Eagle Scout so that he could supervise Boy Scouts when they were at the range.
Anonymous
05/17/2017 12:30
Subject: How do you buy a gun in VA?
One more thing on the 3 days:
- if the buyer has not been approved or denied by the authorities within 3 days, it's technically lawful for the seller (the federally licensed dealer or "FFL") to then transfer the gun to the buyer, HOWEVER:
- it is at their discretion, and I have never, ever heard of a case in VA where an FFL did that; they don't want to take the risk for the small profit they make on each gun sale. If you are not approved within 3 days, you are not going to be allowed to buy a gun.
- if the buyer has not been approved or denied by the authorities within 3 days, it's technically lawful for the seller (the federally licensed dealer or "FFL") to then transfer the gun to the buyer, HOWEVER:
- it is at their discretion, and I have never, ever heard of a case in VA where an FFL did that; they don't want to take the risk for the small profit they make on each gun sale. If you are not approved within 3 days, you are not going to be allowed to buy a gun.
Anonymous
05/17/2017 12:29
Subject: Re:How do you buy a gun in VA?
Anonymous wrote:OP, we have guns. My DH is federal law enforcement so he has several service weapons plus his personal weapons. I have a Glock 43 9 mm and a conceal carry permit. We have several hunting rifles because most of the boys and men in our family hunt. Take a class before you buy a gun. They'll help you select the right weapon and teach you how to safely use it.
Thanks. Have you and your kids taken training too?
Anonymous
05/17/2017 12:28
Subject: Re:How do you buy a gun in VA?
OP, we have guns. My DH is federal law enforcement so he has several service weapons plus his personal weapons. I have a Glock 43 9 mm and a conceal carry permit. We have several hunting rifles because most of the boys and men in our family hunt. Take a class before you buy a gun. They'll help you select the right weapon and teach you how to safely use it.
Anonymous
05/17/2017 12:26
Subject: How do you buy a gun in VA?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A gun shop requires:
- a full background check which takes up to 3 days
- completing of TWO (2) investigation forms - one state and one federal. Any falsifications on the forms are federal and state crimes which are routinely prosecuted
- presentation of 2 forms of identification which are required to match and match the info on your form.
Only after completion of the background check will you be allowed to leave with the firearm you purchased.
Thanks. So approx three days lead time.
Any limit on the quantity of guns/ammunition?
Just curious, why aren't you able to look this info up online? Why are you relying on people to spoon feed you the info you can easily find?
Unable to use the googles?
I've googled gun laws before but haven't seen a step by step process before. Thanks to PP above for laying it out nicely.
You are not to bright then because it can be found in like .072 seconds. You don't want to google "gun laws", you want to google "process to purchase gun in Virginia" and the info immediately pops up.
You can also visit the website for ANY gun store and it is listed there, did you attempt to do that? Even says "HOW TO BUY A GUN"... Again, you are not very bright. http://www.novaarmory.com/how-to-buy-a-gun/
This doesn't say anything about the three-day wait for the background check.
It CAN be delayed for up to 3 days; no one said it was a mandatory 3 day waiting period.
It is called the "instant background check" - in this case "instant" = up to 3 days.
Ok. Thanks for clarifying.
Anonymous
05/17/2017 12:25
Subject: How do you buy a gun in VA?
Anonymous wrote:Some other requirements:
-VA has had an assault-weapons ban since the 1990s incident in Langley.
-besides banning outright certain types of guns, the law mandates that buyers of certain guns PROVE UNITED STATES CITIZENSHIP. Typically, stores will require a valid US passport in addition to the other ID requirements.
-VA laws are in line with ALL 50 states (and D.C.) in issuing qualified state residents a limited permit to carry a concealed weapon (yes - all 50 states issue these). HOWEVER, the permit requires proof of training and DOES NOT WAIVE the background check requirement.
- the background check verifies no felony convictions (of course) but also any misdemeanor domestic violence charges and protection orders or restraining orders in ANY state (whether you know about them or not).
-also banned form purchase are any individuals who cannot pass a drug test. It is irrelevant that DC tried to "legalize" pot or that California considers it "medicine." If you take pot for any reason at all, you cannot buy a gun in VA.
- warrants are checked. Ever get a speeding ticket? I hope you paid it or showed up to court; if not, there will be an outstanding bench warrant on your record; not only will you be denied from purchasing a firearm, the gun shops will delay you until the police arrive to arrest you (and they will file additional charges for attempting to illegally buy a gun). This happens often.
Proof of training only required for concealed carry permit, right?
I'm good on drug test and background check.
Anonymous
05/17/2017 12:25
Subject: How do you buy a gun in VA?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A gun shop requires:
- a full background check which takes up to 3 days
- completing of TWO (2) investigation forms - one state and one federal. Any falsifications on the forms are federal and state crimes which are routinely prosecuted
- presentation of 2 forms of identification which are required to match and match the info on your form.
Only after completion of the background check will you be allowed to leave with the firearm you purchased.
Thanks. So approx three days lead time.
Any limit on the quantity of guns/ammunition?
Just curious, why aren't you able to look this info up online? Why are you relying on people to spoon feed you the info you can easily find?
Unable to use the googles?
I've googled gun laws before but haven't seen a step by step process before. Thanks to PP above for laying it out nicely.
You are not to bright then because it can be found in like .072 seconds. You don't want to google "gun laws", you want to google "process to purchase gun in Virginia" and the info immediately pops up.
You can also visit the website for ANY gun store and it is listed there, did you attempt to do that? Even says "HOW TO BUY A GUN"... Again, you are not very bright. http://www.novaarmory.com/how-to-buy-a-gun/
This doesn't say anything about the three-day wait for the background check.
It CAN be delayed for up to 3 days; no one said it was a mandatory 3 day waiting period.
It is called the "instant background check" - in this case "instant" = up to 3 days.
Anonymous
05/17/2017 12:23
Subject: How do you buy a gun in VA?
Anonymous wrote:OP, odds are most, if not all, FFL dealers (gun dealers) will refuse sale to you based on you not knowing anything about firearm laws or safe storage and handling.
You'll have more success trying to buy a gun from a local gang member. I'd go that route. No paperwork either.
What if I go in looking for guns & training? You don't think they'd sell to me?
Anonymous
05/17/2017 12:22
Subject: How do you buy a gun in VA?
Some other requirements:
-VA has had an assault-weapons ban since the 1990s incident in Langley.
-besides banning outright certain types of guns, the law mandates that buyers of certain guns PROVE UNITED STATES CITIZENSHIP. Typically, stores will require a valid US passport in addition to the other ID requirements.
-VA laws are in line with ALL 50 states (and D.C.) in issuing qualified state residents a limited permit to carry a concealed weapon (yes - all 50 states issue these). HOWEVER, the permit requires proof of training and DOES NOT WAIVE the background check requirement.
- the background check verifies no felony convictions (of course) but also any misdemeanor domestic violence charges and protection orders or restraining orders in ANY state (whether you know about them or not).
-also banned form purchase are any individuals who cannot pass a drug test. It is irrelevant that DC tried to "legalize" pot or that California considers it "medicine." If you take pot for any reason at all, you cannot buy a gun in VA.
- warrants are checked. Ever get a speeding ticket? I hope you paid it or showed up to court; if not, there will be an outstanding bench warrant on your record; not only will you be denied from purchasing a firearm, the gun shops will delay you until the police arrive to arrest you (and they will file additional charges for attempting to illegally buy a gun). This happens often.
-VA has had an assault-weapons ban since the 1990s incident in Langley.
-besides banning outright certain types of guns, the law mandates that buyers of certain guns PROVE UNITED STATES CITIZENSHIP. Typically, stores will require a valid US passport in addition to the other ID requirements.
-VA laws are in line with ALL 50 states (and D.C.) in issuing qualified state residents a limited permit to carry a concealed weapon (yes - all 50 states issue these). HOWEVER, the permit requires proof of training and DOES NOT WAIVE the background check requirement.
- the background check verifies no felony convictions (of course) but also any misdemeanor domestic violence charges and protection orders or restraining orders in ANY state (whether you know about them or not).
-also banned form purchase are any individuals who cannot pass a drug test. It is irrelevant that DC tried to "legalize" pot or that California considers it "medicine." If you take pot for any reason at all, you cannot buy a gun in VA.
- warrants are checked. Ever get a speeding ticket? I hope you paid it or showed up to court; if not, there will be an outstanding bench warrant on your record; not only will you be denied from purchasing a firearm, the gun shops will delay you until the police arrive to arrest you (and they will file additional charges for attempting to illegally buy a gun). This happens often.
Anonymous
05/17/2017 12:20
Subject: How do you buy a gun in VA?
OP, odds are most, if not all, FFL dealers (gun dealers) will refuse sale to you based on you not knowing anything about firearm laws or safe storage and handling.
You'll have more success trying to buy a gun from a local gang member. I'd go that route. No paperwork either.
You'll have more success trying to buy a gun from a local gang member. I'd go that route. No paperwork either.