Anonymous
05/13/2017 10:24
Subject: What so you think happens to us when we die?
As a believer in Jesus Christ, I believe I am going to heaven.
Anonymous
05/13/2017 10:11
Subject: What so you think happens to us when we die?
Anonymous wrote:I believe in God, Jesus , the Holy Spirit , Heaven and Hell.
My personal reasons are spiritual, observational , artifactually and common sense.
1) I believe we have a soul. I think even atheists are a little offended If anybody said their child didn't have a soul.
2) The story of Christ penetrates my soul for some reason. The triumph of love, the balance of justice and the searingly accurate accounting of human weakness does not feel like it originated from human minds. Humans don't like to be humiliated by their character. The way you can't get the story out of your mind or off your hands is unique among any I have witnessed.
3) To me it's obvious their is an intelligent entity that created our existence and physical universe. Matter, time , physical laws, math and love don't just happen from nothing. That is a more unlikely prospect than a Flying Spaghetti Monster. It's obvious that our creation occurred outside the realm of math, time , a sequence of events , and physical laws. That would be a entity beyond our comprehension and capacity.
4) the shroud of Turin is the only man made object on earth that man cannot understand or has any idea how to duplicate. And it is the image of Crucified Christ.
5) there is no downside to belief in Christ. If you are on your deathbed it may be your only hope and it would be absolutely foolish not to grasp the only rescue rope you have. If it's not true you haven't lost anything.
+1
Anonymous
05/13/2017 10:10
Subject: What so you think happens to us when we die?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I believe in God, Jesus , the Holy Spirit , Heaven and Hell.
My personal reasons are spiritual, observational , artifactually and common sense.
1) I believe we have a soul. I think even atheists are a little offended If anybody said their child didn't have a soul.
2) The story of Christ penetrates my soul for some reason. The triumph of love, the balance of justice and the searingly accurate accounting of human weakness does not feel like it originated from human minds. Humans don't like to be humiliated by their character. The way you can't get the story out of your mind or off your hands is unique among any I have witnessed.
3) To me it's obvious their is an intelligent entity that created our existence and physical universe. Matter, time , physical laws, math and love don't just happen from nothing. That is a more unlikely prospect than a Flying Spaghetti Monster. It's obvious that our creation occurred outside the realm of math, time , a sequence of events , and physical laws. That would be a entity beyond our comprehension and capacity.
4) the shroud of Turin is the only man made object on earth that man cannot understand or has any idea how to duplicate. And it is the image of Crucified Christ.
5) there is no downside to belief in Christ. If you are on your deathbed it may be your only hope and it would be absolutely foolish not to grasp the only rescue rope you have. If it's not true you haven't lost anything.
Atheism has nothing to do with what we are (i.e., whether or not we have a soul). It's about whether or not there is a god.
FFS, why is atheism and agnosticism so hard for religious people to understand? It's pretty simple, and it deals with one thing: god. It's not about what it means to be human or whether we have a soul.
As for #5, that's all debatable. Some people genuinely seek the truth. So this ridiculous argument that they should believe in something for some selfish reason because there's "no downslde" runs contrary to what they value. Religious people talk about values all of the time. You don't think non-religious people have values? Some of us genuinely want to know the truth of things (as much as possible).
A soul is just as scientifically irrational a belief as a God. For an atheist to believe in a unprovable soul but not a probably more provable intelligent creator based on observation of creation just seems to indicate irrational stubbornness but that's just my opinion. As to 5) what you value is irrelevant in about 1 minute when your soulless mass of cells dies. On your deathbed it is unarguable that the only thing you have time to do that may effect your future positively is believe and submit to Jesus. There is no downside and it would seem to be foolish not to go for it.
Anonymous
05/13/2017 10:04
Subject: Re:What so you think happens to us when we die?
Nothing. As much as I hope there is an afterlife and we are reunited with those we love, I just can't believe it.
Anonymous
05/13/2017 09:56
Subject: Re:What so you think happens to us when we die?
Anonymous wrote:Can one be Catholic or Jewish or whatever and still believe in no afterlife?
I'm not Jewish but I've been to a number of Jewish funerals and noticed that there was no discussion of an afterlife.
Anonymous
05/13/2017 09:55
Subject: What so you think happens to us when we die?
Anonymous wrote:I believe we die. Our bodies degrade. We live in the memories of those still living. And that's it.
+1
Anonymous
05/13/2017 09:33
Subject: What so you think happens to us when we die?
Anonymous wrote:I believe in God, Jesus , the Holy Spirit , Heaven and Hell.
My personal reasons are spiritual, observational , artifactually and common sense.
1) I believe we have a soul. I think even atheists are a little offended If anybody said their child didn't have a soul.
2) The story of Christ penetrates my soul for some reason. The triumph of love, the balance of justice and the searingly accurate accounting of human weakness does not feel like it originated from human minds. Humans don't like to be humiliated by their character. The way you can't get the story out of your mind or off your hands is unique among any I have witnessed.
3) To me it's obvious their is an intelligent entity that created our existence and physical universe. Matter, time , physical laws, math and love don't just happen from nothing. That is a more unlikely prospect than a Flying Spaghetti Monster. It's obvious that our creation occurred outside the realm of math, time , a sequence of events , and physical laws. That would be a entity beyond our comprehension and capacity.
4) the shroud of Turin is the only man made object on earth that man cannot understand or has any idea how to duplicate. And it is the image of Crucified Christ.
5) there is no downside to belief in Christ. If you are on your deathbed it may be your only hope and it would be absolutely foolish not to grasp the only rescue rope you have. If it's not true you haven't lost anything.
Atheism has nothing to do with what we are (i.e., whether or not we have a soul). It's about whether or not there is a god.
FFS, why is atheism and agnosticism so hard for religious people to understand? It's pretty simple, and it deals with one thing: god. It's not about what it means to be human or whether we have a soul.
As for #5, that's all debatable. Some people genuinely seek the truth. So this ridiculous argument that they should believe in something for some selfish reason because there's "no downslde" runs contrary to what they value. Religious people talk about values all of the time. You don't think non-religious people have values? Some of us genuinely want to know the truth of things (as much as possible).
Anonymous
05/13/2017 09:11
Subject: What so you think happens to us when we die?
Anonymous wrote: I read somewhere that the most vivid dreams that seem to go on all night are really played out in under a minute.
If you are lucky enough to be conscious for your own death I believe that what you will likely experience is the last nice thing your brain does for you; you get washed in dopamine and oxytocin as you peacefully shut down the hard drive.
I'm not looking forward to dieing but I hope it's not while under general anesthesia, if the concious part of your brain is rendered in operative with anesthesia I'll probably miss those great feelings that near death people describe.
I can't really think of a way that this was selected for evolutionarily speaking, but if you die and don't thrash around and make a mess maybe that's better for everyone else involved.
It's very painful when your body is shutting down and that's why I guess through evolution the body sends out the dopamine. Hospices give morphine to most of their dying patients to help ease the pain.
Anonymous
05/13/2017 09:05
Subject: What so you think happens to us when we die?
I believe in God, Jesus , the Holy Spirit , Heaven and Hell.
My personal reasons are spiritual, observational , artifactually and common sense.
1) I believe we have a soul. I think even atheists are a little offended If anybody said their child didn't have a soul.
2) The story of Christ penetrates my soul for some reason. The triumph of love, the balance of justice and the searingly accurate accounting of human weakness does not feel like it originated from human minds. Humans don't like to be humiliated by their character. The way you can't get the story out of your mind or off your hands is unique among any I have witnessed.
3) To me it's obvious their is an intelligent entity that created our existence and physical universe. Matter, time , physical laws, math and love don't just happen from nothing. That is a more unlikely prospect than a Flying Spaghetti Monster. It's obvious that our creation occurred outside the realm of math, time , a sequence of events , and physical laws. That would be a entity beyond our comprehension and capacity.
4) the shroud of Turin is the only man made object on earth that man cannot understand or has any idea how to duplicate. And it is the image of Crucified Christ.
5) there is no downside to belief in Christ. If you are on your deathbed it may be your only hope and it would be absolutely foolish not to grasp the only rescue rope you have. If it's not true you haven't lost anything.
My personal reasons are spiritual, observational , artifactually and common sense.
1) I believe we have a soul. I think even atheists are a little offended If anybody said their child didn't have a soul.
2) The story of Christ penetrates my soul for some reason. The triumph of love, the balance of justice and the searingly accurate accounting of human weakness does not feel like it originated from human minds. Humans don't like to be humiliated by their character. The way you can't get the story out of your mind or off your hands is unique among any I have witnessed.
3) To me it's obvious their is an intelligent entity that created our existence and physical universe. Matter, time , physical laws, math and love don't just happen from nothing. That is a more unlikely prospect than a Flying Spaghetti Monster. It's obvious that our creation occurred outside the realm of math, time , a sequence of events , and physical laws. That would be a entity beyond our comprehension and capacity.
4) the shroud of Turin is the only man made object on earth that man cannot understand or has any idea how to duplicate. And it is the image of Crucified Christ.
5) there is no downside to belief in Christ. If you are on your deathbed it may be your only hope and it would be absolutely foolish not to grasp the only rescue rope you have. If it's not true you haven't lost anything.
Anonymous
05/13/2017 09:04
Subject: What so you think happens to us when we die?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I had a near death experience years ago. I can tell you that it is really peaceful, no need to fear it. I went up a tunnel into peace, then back through the tunnel painfully back into my body.
Mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnmmnnnnnn STFU
It's the truth. I am not a religious person. But I can tell you that it is not 'nothingness'. It's peaceful. I think our energy doesn't die with the body. Perhaps the body is just a vehicle for our energy on Earth.
Anonymous
05/13/2017 08:54
Subject: What so you think happens to us when we die?
I read somewhere that the most vivid dreams that seem to go on all night are really played out in under a minute.
If you are lucky enough to be conscious for your own death I believe that what you will likely experience is the last nice thing your brain does for you; you get washed in dopamine and oxytocin as you peacefully shut down the hard drive.
I'm not looking forward to dieing but I hope it's not while under general anesthesia, if the concious part of your brain is rendered in operative with anesthesia I'll probably miss those great feelings that near death people describe.
I can't really think of a way that this was selected for evolutionarily speaking, but if you die and don't thrash around and make a mess maybe that's better for everyone else involved.
If you are lucky enough to be conscious for your own death I believe that what you will likely experience is the last nice thing your brain does for you; you get washed in dopamine and oxytocin as you peacefully shut down the hard drive.
I'm not looking forward to dieing but I hope it's not while under general anesthesia, if the concious part of your brain is rendered in operative with anesthesia I'll probably miss those great feelings that near death people describe.
I can't really think of a way that this was selected for evolutionarily speaking, but if you die and don't thrash around and make a mess maybe that's better for everyone else involved.
Anonymous
05/13/2017 08:48
Subject: What so you think happens to us when we die?
Anonymous wrote:I'm Catholic. I guess I'm going to Hell, because as much as I want to believe I'm going to Heaven to be reunited with lost loved ones in utopia, my common sense tells me when I die, that's it. End of the line. That's all she wrote. Dead end.
Right. Because your personal "common sense" is the depth of reality on this question
Anonymous
05/13/2017 08:43
Subject: Re:What so you think happens to us when we die?
Anonymous wrote:Can one be Catholic or Jewish or whatever and still believe in no afterlife?
Well if you believe there is a god why not an afterlife?
Anonymous
05/13/2017 08:01
Subject: Re:What so you think happens to us when we die?
Can one be Catholic or Jewish or whatever and still believe in no afterlife?
Anonymous
05/13/2017 07:22
Subject: What so you think happens to us when we die?
I believe we die. Our bodies degrade. We live in the memories of those still living. And that's it.