Anonymous
05/09/2017 06:33
Subject: Re:NNAT2 Results
I think the point is that there are tons of posters years after year whose kids ace the nnat and get an "average" score on the cogat and parents are shocked. There are also kids who do poorly on the nnat and do extremely well on the cogat. The point is that the gloater shouldn't be gloating, despite her denials) because she really can't be sure what will happen in the next test.
Anonymous
05/09/2017 05:30
Subject: NNAT2 Results
So many bitter psychos on here.
No one is saying the kid is Einstein - and thanks for the PPs who pointed out the name checked serial killer. How obsessed must one be with IQ scores to know that person's score?
Any rational person with kids in the FCPS system would quickly realize that AAP is designed for a top 15% (county-wide) student achievement population. 15% of the kids running around here are not Einsteins, but 15% of them are ready for above grade level work. That's the whole point of ADVANCED Academics.
And if you think a kid who scores in the 150s on the NNAT would not score above cut-off (132) on the CoGat then you are just not paying attention. Look at all the past years' threads about in/not in decisions and the public scores posted - while NNATs are typically higher than CoGat scores, there isn't a 20 point gap between the scores.
As to the GBRS, well it's culturally biased..
No one is saying the kid is Einstein - and thanks for the PPs who pointed out the name checked serial killer. How obsessed must one be with IQ scores to know that person's score?
Any rational person with kids in the FCPS system would quickly realize that AAP is designed for a top 15% (county-wide) student achievement population. 15% of the kids running around here are not Einsteins, but 15% of them are ready for above grade level work. That's the whole point of ADVANCED Academics.
And if you think a kid who scores in the 150s on the NNAT would not score above cut-off (132) on the CoGat then you are just not paying attention. Look at all the past years' threads about in/not in decisions and the public scores posted - while NNATs are typically higher than CoGat scores, there isn't a 20 point gap between the scores.
As to the GBRS, well it's culturally biased..
Anonymous
05/08/2017 23:09
Subject: Re:NNAT2 Results
Don't let psycho poster make you feel like a 155 NNAT is not a great score. My kid had 158 NNAT but cogat was above average and had a 14 GBRS- in,,
Anonymous
05/08/2017 22:56
Subject: NNAT2 Results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wasn't gloating too much at that 155 - but it's hilarious that people are saying stuff like 'don't count your chickens because your kid may not get in.'
Of course the NNAT is the least important because it is the one furthest in time from the AAP decision. And most kids who score that high will likely not score as high on the CoGat (regression, cogat is a tougher test, etc), but this ain't my first rodeo and I would be shocked if my kid didn't score 135+ on the cogat next year.
Kid's score isn't going to drop more than 20 points between the tests - they are correlated better than that.
Point of the post is to say that your kid with 3s in k and first grade is definitely still in the sweet spot for the aap process.
You actually were gloating.
"Kid's score isn't going to drop more than 20 points between the tests-they are correlated better than that."
No...just no. There are many reasons a kid's score can "drop more than 20 points" between tests (I am sure not your 155-not that your gloating-scoring kid). If he/she retook the same test and the score dropped 20 points, then your correlation statement would be correct. But...no, you are talking about two different tests (yes both used to assess cognitive abilities but neither an IQ test), one of which is use specifically to assist with identifying the cognitive abilities in ESL students.
Honestly. Your child’s score is one data point….and he/she is six. Jacob Barnett and Albert Einstein likely would not have been in AAP or tracked for AAP (Especially Einstein, he drove his teachers crazy, struggled to articulate and took forever to answer questions and failed classes). Richard Feynman and James Watson would never have made the AAP cut in Fairfax with their “sub 130 IQ”.
Andrew Cunanan’s teacher’s adored him (his IQ was 147) and thought he was an “out of the box thinker”.
Ridiculous and in the end just a data point.
You are a moron at best. A kid who scores 160 and is being pulled out for advanced work already is obviously in a great position going forward. You aren't even balanced and this response shows you're potentially a lunatic at worst. Andrew Cunanan . . .
Anonymous
05/08/2017 22:17
Subject: NNAT2 Results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wasn't gloating too much at that 155 - but it's hilarious that people are saying stuff like 'don't count your chickens because your kid may not get in.'
Of course the NNAT is the least important because it is the one furthest in time from the AAP decision. And most kids who score that high will likely not score as high on the CoGat (regression, cogat is a tougher test, etc), but this ain't my first rodeo and I would be shocked if my kid didn't score 135+ on the cogat next year.
Kid's score isn't going to drop more than 20 points between the tests - they are correlated better than that.
Point of the post is to say that your kid with 3s in k and first grade is definitely still in the sweet spot for the aap process.
You actually were gloating.
"Kid's score isn't going to drop more than 20 points between the tests-they are correlated better than that."
No...just no. There are many reasons a kid's score can "drop more than 20 points" between tests (I am sure not your 155-not that your gloating-scoring kid). If he/she retook the same test and the score dropped 20 points, then your correlation statement would be correct. But...no, you are talking about two different tests (yes both used to assess cognitive abilities but neither an IQ test), one of which is use specifically to assist with identifying the cognitive abilities in ESL students.
Honestly. Your child’s score is one data point….and he/she is six. Jacob Barnett and Albert Einstein likely would not have been in AAP or tracked for AAP (Especially Einstein, he drove his teachers crazy, struggled to articulate and took forever to answer questions and failed classes). Richard Feynman and James Watson would never have made the AAP cut in Fairfax with their “sub 130 IQ”.
Andrew Cunanan’s teacher’s adored him (his IQ was 147) and thought he was an “out of the box thinker”.
Ridiculous and in the end just a data point.
Hahaha- this is the best- PP here compares IQ scores for kids/AAP with a serial killer.. get.. away.. from.. the .. computer..
Anonymous
05/08/2017 21:42
Subject: NNAT2 Results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wasn't gloating too much at that 155 - but it's hilarious that people are saying stuff like 'don't count your chickens because your kid may not get in.'
Of course the NNAT is the least important because it is the one furthest in time from the AAP decision. And most kids who score that high will likely not score as high on the CoGat (regression, cogat is a tougher test, etc), but this ain't my first rodeo and I would be shocked if my kid didn't score 135+ on the cogat next year.
Kid's score isn't going to drop more than 20 points between the tests - they are correlated better than that.
Point of the post is to say that your kid with 3s in k and first grade is definitely still in the sweet spot for the aap process.
You actually were gloating.
"Kid's score isn't going to drop more than 20 points between the tests-they are correlated better than that."
No...just no. There are many reasons a kid's score can "drop more than 20 points" between tests (I am sure not your 155-not that your gloating-scoring kid). If he/she retook the same test and the score dropped 20 points, then your correlation statement would be correct. But...no, you are talking about two different tests (yes both used to assess cognitive abilities but neither an IQ test), one of which is use specifically to assist with identifying the cognitive abilities in ESL students.
Honestly. Your child’s score is one data point….and he/she is six. Jacob Barnett and Albert Einstein likely would not have been in AAP or tracked for AAP (Especially Einstein, he drove his teachers crazy, struggled to articulate and took forever to answer questions and failed classes). Richard Feynman and James Watson would never have made the AAP cut in Fairfax with their “sub 130 IQ”.
Andrew Cunanan’s teacher’s adored him (his IQ was 147) and thought he was an “out of the box thinker”.
Ridiculous and in the end just a data point.
Anonymous
05/08/2017 19:27
Subject: NNAT2 Results
Anonymous wrote:Wasn't gloating too much at that 155 - but it's hilarious that people are saying stuff like 'don't count your chickens because your kid may not get in.'
Of course the NNAT is the least important because it is the one furthest in time from the AAP decision. And most kids who score that high will likely not score as high on the CoGat (regression, cogat is a tougher test, etc), but this ain't my first rodeo and I would be shocked if my kid didn't score 135+ on the cogat next year.
Kid's score isn't going to drop more than 20 points between the tests - they are correlated better than that.
Point of the post is to say that your kid with 3s in k and first grade is definitely still in the sweet spot for the aap process.
You actually were gloating.
Anonymous
05/08/2017 19:06
Subject: NNAT2 Results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:wow y'all are bumming me out. I was so excited about our 133 score....
Don't be. Your child may be admitted with a 133 and a child with a 155 may not be admitted. It doesn't work as you're thinking and it doesn't work as the gloaters are thinking either. The NNAT is the least important of the two tests!
Our First Grader is being pulled out for advanced work this year. Very high NNAT. But if your DC is being pulled out this year, and got a lower NNAT, then yes, why worry about one test?
NP but our school doesn't do pull outs for anyone.
Anonymous
05/08/2017 18:15
Subject: NNAT2 Results
Wasn't gloating too much at that 155 - but it's hilarious that people are saying stuff like 'don't count your chickens because your kid may not get in.'
Of course the NNAT is the least important because it is the one furthest in time from the AAP decision. And most kids who score that high will likely not score as high on the CoGat (regression, cogat is a tougher test, etc), but this ain't my first rodeo and I would be shocked if my kid didn't score 135+ on the cogat next year.
Kid's score isn't going to drop more than 20 points between the tests - they are correlated better than that.
Point of the post is to say that your kid with 3s in k and first grade is definitely still in the sweet spot for the aap process.
Of course the NNAT is the least important because it is the one furthest in time from the AAP decision. And most kids who score that high will likely not score as high on the CoGat (regression, cogat is a tougher test, etc), but this ain't my first rodeo and I would be shocked if my kid didn't score 135+ on the cogat next year.
Kid's score isn't going to drop more than 20 points between the tests - they are correlated better than that.
Point of the post is to say that your kid with 3s in k and first grade is definitely still in the sweet spot for the aap process.
Anonymous
05/08/2017 16:05
Subject: NNAT2 Results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:wow y'all are bumming me out. I was so excited about our 133 score....
Don't be. Your child may be admitted with a 133 and a child with a 155 may not be admitted. It doesn't work as you're thinking and it doesn't work as the gloaters are thinking either. The NNAT is the least important of the two tests!
Our First Grader is being pulled out for advanced work this year. Very high NNAT. But if your DC is being pulled out this year, and got a lower NNAT, then yes, why worry about one test?
Oh geesh...and don't throw this out, either. Some kids aren't pulled out and they are just as bright or brighter than your kid. Schools do it differently. It is completely dependent on how the principal and aart divvy up the resources and not necessarily how the school views the brightness of particular first graders.
You should also know that some first graders are pulled out and don't make it into AAP.
Anonymous
05/08/2017 14:00
Subject: NNAT2 Results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:wow y'all are bumming me out. I was so excited about our 133 score....
Don't be. Your child may be admitted with a 133 and a child with a 155 may not be admitted. It doesn't work as you're thinking and it doesn't work as the gloaters are thinking either. The NNAT is the least important of the two tests!
Our First Grader is being pulled out for advanced work this year. Very high NNAT. But if your DC is being pulled out this year, and got a lower NNAT, then yes, why worry about one test?
Anonymous
05/08/2017 10:38
Subject: NNAT2 Results
Anonymous wrote:wow y'all are bumming me out. I was so excited about our 133 score....
Don't be. Your child may be admitted with a 133 and a child with a 155 may not be admitted. It doesn't work as you're thinking and it doesn't work as the gloaters are thinking either. The NNAT is the least important of the two tests!
Anonymous
05/08/2017 10:27
Subject: NNAT2 Results
wow y'all are bumming me out. I was so excited about our 133 score....
Anonymous
05/08/2017 10:22
Subject: NNAT2 Results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can't brag in real life so I'll do it here.
155.
Kid gets 3s and 4s in school and is more interested in friends than classwork.
Confused... dd got 134 And 98th percentile
Is 155 possible? What was the raw score in that case? Perfect?
155 indicates student got one question wrong. Student's age is also considered, so another student may get a 156, 154 etc depending on their age if they answered all questions correctly except for one. A perfect score would always be 160 regardless of age.
Correct. Our DC (older in 1G class) had a raw score of 48, which resulted in a 160 and 99 percentile.
Anonymous
05/08/2017 09:54
Subject: Re:NNAT2 Results
Child's age on test day makes a significant difference. My kid, who is one of oldest in 1st, got more questions right but received a much lower overall score than sibling who was one of youngest in first.