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Anonymous wrote:My neighbor's DC is at Cap City in 2nd grade. They are happy.

But they absolutely plan to leave for a different middle school option (whether that starts at 5th or 6th). They want a more traditional middle school curriculum.

They've realized they are less enamored with the progressive education model than they imagined.

Is it the progressive education model in general which disillusioned your neighbors? Or is it the model as currently implemented within the Cap City population and constraints?

In general. Not unusual that appeals or works well when your kid is 2.5 changes as they get older and you see what kind of learner/student they are.

Can you clarify? I couldn't understand that.

My neighbors just think their child will be ready for something different when their DC gets to MS.

The rest of my poorly written post was my opinion that when choosing a PK3 school for your child, expeditionary, child-driven learning or dual-language immersion or Montessori or a traditional school may be exactly what you think he/she needs.

Then that kid gets a little turns out to have a propensity for Alegbra, or instrumental music, sports or traditional sciences. Or they have learning disabilities and need more specialized support. Or their particular cohort is a bad social fit and they are miserable. I have friends (not my Cap City neighbors) whose kids fit into all these buckets and they all changed at some point in elementary or at middle or high school.

My advice -- choose a school based on the 3-4 years immediately in front of you, and know that you might have to course correct later.

Okay, thanks. Sounds like good advice.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My neighbor's DC is at Cap City in 2nd grade. They are happy.

But they absolutely plan to leave for a different middle school option (whether that starts at 5th or 6th). They want a more traditional middle school curriculum.

They've realized they are less enamored with the progressive education model than they imagined.

Is it the progressive education model in general which disillusioned your neighbors? Or is it the model as currently implemented within the Cap City population and constraints?

In general. Not unusual that appeals or works well when your kid is 2.5 changes as they get older and you see what kind of learner/student they are.

Can you clarify? I couldn't understand that.

My neighbors just think their child will be ready for something different when their DC gets to MS.

The rest of my poorly written post was my opinion that when choosing a PK3 school for your child, expeditionary, child-driven learning or dual-language immersion or Montessori or a traditional school may be exactly what you think he/she needs.

Then that kid gets a little turns out to have a propensity for Alegbra, or instrumental music, sports or traditional sciences. Or they have learning disabilities and need more specialized support. Or their particular cohort is a bad social fit and they are miserable. I have friends (not my Cap City neighbors) whose kids fit into all these buckets and they all changed at some point in elementary or at middle or high school.

My advice -- choose a school based on the 3-4 years immediately in front of you, and know that you might have to course correct later.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My neighbor's DC is at Cap City in 2nd grade. They are happy.

But they absolutely plan to leave for a different middle school option (whether that starts at 5th or 6th). They want a more traditional middle school curriculum.

They've realized they are less enamored with the progressive education model than they imagined.

Is it the progressive education model in general which disillusioned your neighbors? Or is it the model as currently implemented within the Cap City population and constraints?

In general. Not unusual that appeals or works well when your kid is 2.5 changes as they get older and you see what kind of learner/student they are.

Can you clarify? I couldn't understand that.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My neighbor's DC is at Cap City in 2nd grade. They are happy.

But they absolutely plan to leave for a different middle school option (whether that starts at 5th or 6th). They want a more traditional middle school curriculum.

They've realized they are less enamored with the progressive education model than they imagined.

Is it the progressive education model in general which disillusioned your neighbors? Or is it the model as currently implemented within the Cap City population and constraints?

In general. Not unusual that appeals or works well when your kid is 2.5 changes as they get older and you see what kind of learner/student they are.

Anonymous wrote:My neighbor's DC is at Cap City in 2nd grade. They are happy.

But they absolutely plan to leave for a different middle school option (whether that starts at 5th or 6th). They want a more traditional middle school curriculum.

They've realized they are less enamored with the progressive education model than they imagined.

Is it the progressive education model in general which disillusioned your neighbors? Or is it the model as currently implemented within the Cap City population and constraints?

My neighbor's DC is at Cap City in 2nd grade. They are happy.

But they absolutely plan to leave for a different middle school option (whether that starts at 5th or 6th). They want a more traditional middle school curriculum.

They've realized they are less enamored with the progressive education model than they imagined.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe that it's because there are schools that start in 5th that parents view as better alternatives for middle school: Latin and BASIS and DCI, to name three.

All of those start in 5th grade and have better test scores. Cap City's MS may be improving, but its initial years were been pretty rocky and uneven.

DCI test scores aren't better

DCI is what, 2 years old? And it's already a threat. What does that tell you?

(Hint: it has to do with Cap City's academic expectations)

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Anonymous wrote:More competition. EL Haynes used to have a lot more competition too a few years ago. Still lacking real diversity in upper grades and most high SES families don't want to deal with perceived behavioral issues.

there are real behavioral issues

i.e. the Black kids don't know how to behave, and white parents are afraid that their snowflake will develop bad habits. It could also be that many kids start puberty during MS years, and some white parents don't want their snowflakes to get any affectionate ideas for OOB, AA children.

it is a charter. There are no "OOB" kids

you clearly have no sense of the student population at Cap City if you think the issue is white parents not wanting their children to have relationships with AA students

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Anonymous wrote:More competition. EL Haynes used to have a lot more competition too a few years ago. Still lacking real diversity in upper grades and most high SES families don't want to deal with perceived behavioral issues.

there are real behavioral issues

i.e. the Black kids don't know how to behave, and white parents are afraid that their snowflake will develop bad habits. It could also be that many kids start puberty during MS years, and some white parents don't want their snowflakes to get any affectionate ideas for OOB, AA children.

Anonymous wrote:They can't lose any kids from 4th to 5th going to Hardy because Hardy doesn't start until 6th.

They can lose kids who get into schools that feed Hardy.

You should have said "leaving in large numbers, not "leaving in large amounts" because the fifth graders are individual entities that can be counted. "Amounts" is used when you're referring to things that aren't individually countable, such as, for example, "water." Thus, first ignoring the use of the ordinal numeral "5th" because of the degree of informality expected in a comment board format, the following query would be grammatically correct: "Why are Cap City rising 5th graders allowed to keep wasting large amounts of water because they carelessly forget to turn off the bathroom faucets?"