Anonymous wrote:Nope women look like crap if they don't keep up. Only men can look good with gray and some wrinkles. It's science
Anonymous wrote:Nope women look like crap if they don't keep up. Only men can look good with gray and some wrinkles. It's science
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No. I work at a big Fed agency and the women in senior leadership roles aren't appearance-oriented. They look professional and groomed, but not surgeries/Botoxed/maintaining youthful heads of hair. None of them are fat, though.
Another fed here, though I work in a small independent agency. It is a very intellectual environment. More than half the women don't wear make-up at all. It does not seem to affect advancement. As I've aged, I've become more and more impressed with how much better the federal workplace is for women, generally speaking.
I'm 50. I color my hair because I want to, not because I think it is necessary professionally. I wear a small amount of make-up and reasonably current clothing and stay fit because I want to, not because I think it is necessary professionally. I have no interest in botox or any other procedures. I don't whiten my teeth, get manicures, straighten my hair, etc., because I don't care to spend my free time that way.
Anonymous wrote:No. I work at a big Fed agency and the women in senior leadership roles aren't appearance-oriented. They look professional and groomed, but not surgeries/Botoxed/maintaining youthful heads of hair. None of them are fat, though.
Anonymous wrote:Nope women look like crap if they don't keep up. Only men can look good with gray and some wrinkles. It's science
Anonymous wrote:14:27 again - BTW, since my late 20's, I opted not to dye my scattered grays (in dark hair, came in pretty evenly and looked nice) because it actually was an advantage at that point to look a bit older. I worked primary with the Executive team.
However, as I get older, I agree there becomes a turning point where they become a liability and not an asset. I think it's unique to your organization, role, tenure at the company, etc.
If I was interviewing or at a new company - I'd dye them in a heartbeat. I also think after about 45 I'll likely dye them.
If I could stay looking about 38 forever, that would be ideal. Old enough to have experience and be considered for any role, generally considered out of childbearing years for most people (total unspoken bias in hiring/advancement during your late 20's/early to mid 30's), but still young enough to not be old in the workforce.
TLDR: I definitely agree with you and see your point OP.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm 49 and I absolutely perform beauty interventions to look more youthful and vital at work (a hospital). Botox, fillers, highlights, retinA, laser for dark spots, "no makeup" makeup every day, eyebrow tint to hide greys, subtle (!) teeth whitening, and tons of yoga and swimming, plus a little
running and cycling.
It would be really nice to pretend all middle aged professional women are assessed exclusively on their skill. I know better,
I've seen it first hand, and I'm not going to capitulate with my livelihood and earning potential, just to make some feminist points with flyaway grey hairs and jowls. I'm well aware I'm playing The Game.
I get it, but this regimen sounds exhausting. I truly feel sorry that you think this level of vigilance is necessary. Ageism and sexism suck.