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Anonymous wrote:Because you are clueless and uninformed?

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wow. np here and these posts are just mean. How is a person able to become clued in and informed if they are made to feel like shit every time they ask about something they just heard about?

But the person didn't ask anything about the position of shadow Senator. Just expressed amazement that they existed and asked why they just learned this. That's not trying to become informed, it's just marveling at your own ignorance.

Shadow senators are not unique to DC. Historically, territories elected shadow reps and senators before their admission as states. The first shadows were elected from Tennessee before it became a state, and became Tennessee's actual reps after admission. DC has been electing two shadow senators and a rep since 1990. They are unpaid, and their role is to lobby for DC statehood.

Jesse Jackson was one of the first DC shadow senators.

How did that work out? It didn't seem to both DC's politico class that Jackson is a resident of Illinois.

He was a DC resident for a long time. Lived near Howard University.

True. His sons went to St. Albans.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because you are clueless and uninformed?

+1

wow. np here and these posts are just mean. How is a person able to become clued in and informed if they are made to feel like shit every time they ask about something they just heard about?

But the person didn't ask anything about the position of shadow Senator. Just expressed amazement that they existed and asked why they just learned this. That's not trying to become informed, it's just marveling at your own ignorance.

Shadow senators are not unique to DC. Historically, territories elected shadow reps and senators before their admission as states. The first shadows were elected from Tennessee before it became a state, and became Tennessee's actual reps after admission. DC has been electing two shadow senators and a rep since 1990. They are unpaid, and their role is to lobby for DC statehood.

Jesse Jackson was one of the first DC shadow senators.

How did that work out? It didn't seem to both DC's politico class that Jackson is a resident of Illinois.

He was a DC resident for a long time. Lived near Howard University.

City Paper did a good story a few years ago on the shadow senators and representatives, when the D.C. government was proposing to give them $1 million a year to spend: http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/news/article/13044509/shadow-of-a-doubt-dc-statehood-activists

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because you are clueless and uninformed?

+1

wow. np here and these posts are just mean. How is a person able to become clued in and informed if they are made to feel like shit every time they ask about something they just heard about?

But the person didn't ask anything about the position of shadow Senator. Just expressed amazement that they existed and asked why they just learned this. That's not trying to become informed, it's just marveling at your own ignorance.

Shadow senators are not unique to DC. Historically, territories elected shadow reps and senators before their admission as states. The first shadows were elected from Tennessee before it became a state, and became Tennessee's actual reps after admission. DC has been electing two shadow senators and a rep since 1990. They are unpaid, and their role is to lobby for DC statehood.

Jesse Jackson was one of the first DC shadow senators.

How did that work out? It didn't seem to both DC's politico class that Jackson is a resident of Illinois.

Anonymous wrote:What f'ing bitches. Oops, I mean narcissists. For many posters, no other poster will ever be right-- for asking/for not asking. They just get too much of a power trip and hard-on from making other people wrong. It's immature, yes, but it's a drug to them. Jerry Lewis once said 'you have to allow some people to be right: it consoles them for being nothing else. ' In this context, I take his words to mean not to let the bitches be right in their miserable criticism, but to acknowledge that they're like most other bullies, miserable and cowardly. Why not shake off the cowardice and brave it enough to try and connect and relate to people? It will cure some of your aloneness, then you won't have to use bitchiness to feel important because being commected will make you important. Try it, you'll like it more.

What? This is DC, you keep your ignorance to yourself. We don't tolerate those who are uninformed.

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Anonymous wrote:Why am I just finding out about this now

Because they're pointless.

this. The rep Norton can't vote but she sure as shit makes a big stink on behalf of the district. the shadow senator has about as much power as a 7 grade student council secretary.

They waste a LOT of money, too. The budget for Eleanor's office could be put to many more important things in the district.

Are you dumb? The point is, she can make a big stink and stay in their faces. The shadow senators are a waste of money, but not the Congressional seat. Now, how effective Eleanor is is up for debate, but the seat is important.

You're not alone, OP. I learned in 6th grade government class in a state far away from here that DC had shadow reps in Congress. But even having lived in and around DC for 20 years, I'd sort of assumed they'd been replaced by Eleanor Holmes Norton's Delegate position. I see now that they're just pointless lobbyists and not actually participants in Congress.

Why is D.C.’s nonvoting delegate allowed to participate in official business in the House of Representatives, but D.C.’s shadow senators aren’t allowed to participate in the official business of the Senate?

You’re confusing the District’s mostly pointless elected representative with its entirely pointless ones. While Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton can serve on House committees, she’s denied a vote on full bills (and on virtually all business on the House floor when Republicans are in charge, as they are now). The District’s shadow senators and shadow representative, on the other hand, are unpaid lobbyists elected to push for D.C. statehood—but they’re essentially a figment of the District’s imagination as far as the actual rules of Congress are concerned. The District tried to get a delegatelike representative in the Senate in the ’70s, but the senators weren’t having it. Aside from a few privileges (access to the Senate dining room!), the shadow delegation isn’t recognized as a real thing outside of their basement offices in the Wilson Building.

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/news/article/13045117/why-does-dcs-nonvoting-delegate-have-more-power-than-its

What f'ing bitches. Oops, I mean narcissists. For many posters, no other poster will ever be right-- for asking/for not asking. They just get too much of a power trip and hard-on from making other people wrong. It's immature, yes, but it's a drug to them. Jerry Lewis once said 'you have to allow some people to be right: it consoles them for being nothing else. ' In this context, I take his words to mean not to let the bitches be right in their miserable criticism, but to acknowledge that they're like most other bullies, miserable and cowardly. Why not shake off the cowardice and brave it enough to try and connect and relate to people? It will cure some of your aloneness, then you won't have to use bitchiness to feel important because being commected will make you important. Try it, you'll like it more.