Anonymous
04/15/2017 21:55
Subject: Admission to SLACs after TJ
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
TJ sends more kids to MIT each year than SLACs combined. Look at the top TJ placements: GA Tech, the UCs, U Illinois Champaigne, MIT, Cornell, Carnegie Melon, VT Engineering, UT Austin, UVA & WM (which are strong in some areas of STEM, plus UVA Engineeribg), RPI, VCU (6 year MD program). Not SLACs. OP is an idiot. 90% of TJ kids end up in STEM-- generally very strong STEM.
OP here. The point of my question was to figure out how to get into the best college after TJ (not knowing which way my kid would go). My kid does well in all subjects right now but also wants to be able to do language and music all years. Please provide constructive responses if possible. If not just don't.
Oh.. here's an alternative response to your post... Who you calling idiot, you dumb bitch? Go back to school and learn how to read.
Feel free to respond to either of the above if you care..
DP. READING your original post, you DIDN'T say you want the best college. You say: WILL do 4 years of language (not considering it, will do it). You also said WILL do 4 years of music and WILL NOT "dig too deep" in STEM (which is LOL at TJ if you look at the required classes, and then realize each required STEM class easily covers twice the material of a base school STEM class). And you ask, specifically, about TOP SLACs, not "best colleges." Have people been reading the OP correctly? Or do you have a written expression problem?
As pointed out, a top SLAC out of TJ rarely happens. A top SLAC with all those unweighted classes is close to impossible without a huge hook. A great college out of TJ is very possible-- especially in a STEM field. But not a top SLAC. The TJ curriculum just works against being competitive for admission to SLACs.
Average, GPA for UVA admission out of TJ is 4.3. Based on the weighting issues with language and music outlined above, that if going to be very, very difficult to pull off. Technically possible. But highly unlikely. WM and VT might be more doable.
People who are telling you that if your kid is stuck on the language / music combo they should not go to TJ are giving you good advice. Your DC can't have it all: that many non-STEM electives, that many unweighted electives, the TJ diploma requirements, and a decent GPA. It's only 28 classes. You can either do the TJ diploma and maintain a competitive courseload OR do that many non-STEM electives. It will look fine freshman year. But try to do do a 4 year plan that gets everything in. Then calculate the weighted GPA from that plan assuming an UW 4.0. Then realize that the middle of a brilliant class is in the A- B+ range, and only 1 or 2 kids each year graduate with an UW 4.0.
As for the "dumb bitch," part, please just stay at your base school. TJ as a community doesn't need the nasty attitude. I'm sorry you aren't getting the answers you want, but seriously?
Doesn't an AP language get the +1 bump?
Anonymous
04/15/2017 21:46
Subject: Admission to SLACs after TJ
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
TJ sends more kids to MIT each year than SLACs combined. Look at the top TJ placements: GA Tech, the UCs, U Illinois Champaigne, MIT, Cornell, Carnegie Melon, VT Engineering, UT Austin, UVA & WM (which are strong in some areas of STEM, plus UVA Engineeribg), RPI, VCU (6 year MD program). Not SLACs. OP is an idiot. 90% of TJ kids end up in STEM-- generally very strong STEM.
OP here. The point of my question was to figure out how to get into the best college after TJ (not knowing which way my kid would go). My kid does well in all subjects right now but also wants to be able to do language and music all years. Please provide constructive responses if possible. If not just don't.
Oh.. here's an alternative response to your post... Who you calling idiot, you dumb bitch? Go back to school and learn how to read.
Feel free to respond to either of the above if you care..
DP. READING your original post, you DIDN'T say you want the best college. You say: WILL do 4 years of language (not considering it, will do it). You also said WILL do 4 years of music and WILL NOT "dig too deep" in STEM (which is LOL at TJ if you look at the required classes, and then realize each required STEM class easily covers twice the material of a base school STEM class). And you ask, specifically, about TOP SLACs, not "best colleges." Have people been reading the OP correctly? Or do you have a written expression problem?
As pointed out, a top SLAC out of TJ rarely happens. A top SLAC with all those unweighted classes is close to impossible without a huge hook. A great college out of TJ is very possible-- especially in a STEM field. But not a top SLAC. The TJ curriculum just works against being competitive for admission to SLACs.
Average, GPA for UVA admission out of TJ is 4.3. Based on the weighting issues with language and music outlined above, that if going to be very, very difficult to pull off. Technically possible. But highly unlikely. WM and VT might be more doable.
People who are telling you that if your kid is stuck on the language / music combo they should not go to TJ are giving you good advice. Your DC can't have it all: that many non-STEM electives, that many unweighted electives, the TJ diploma requirements, and a decent GPA. It's only 28 classes. You can either do the TJ diploma and maintain a competitive courseload OR do that many non-STEM electives. It will look fine freshman year. But try to do do a 4 year plan that gets everything in. Then calculate the weighted GPA from that plan assuming an UW 4.0. Then realize that the middle of a brilliant class is in the A- B+ range, and only 1 or 2 kids each year graduate with an UW 4.0.
As for the "dumb bitch," part, please just stay at your base school. TJ as a community doesn't need the nasty attitude. I'm sorry you aren't getting the answers you want, but seriously?
Anonymous
04/15/2017 21:21
Subject: Admission to SLACs after TJ
Anonymous wrote:Per the list of persons ACCEPTED v. ENROLLED from 2010-16,
Amherst - 16 accepted, 4 enrolled
Bard - 6 accepted, 2 enrolled
Bates - 2 accepted, 1 enrolled
Bowdoin - 12 accepted, 4 enrolled
Carleton - 6 accepted, 1 enrolled
Colby- 9 accepted, 3 enrolled
Davidson - 12 accepted, 3 enrolled
Reed - 7 accepted, 1 enrolled
Vassar - 8 accepted, 2 enrolled
There just aren't many TJ kids applying to SLACs, but those who are will get in at the same percentage or better as from other schools...
Thanks for the numbers. We don't have access to Naviance yet so wasn't aware..
Anonymous
04/15/2017 21:20
Subject: Admission to SLACs after TJ
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ugh, not another TJ bs thread...
Who's hold a gun to your head and forcing you to read it?
+ 1 mil
Anonymous
04/15/2017 21:17
Subject: Admission to SLACs after TJ
Anonymous wrote:Another Fake-STEM kid going to TJ
Only surprise is most go to UVA. Sorry Op, nothing personal. I just do not like the false PR that kids go to TJ because they want to focus on STEM careers.
OP here.. UVA works great..
Not a fake STEM kid at all.. likes engineering (building things) and biology related stuff, good at most subjects and wants to do music and language all 4 years. Just trying to determine if we should encourage this desire or not. We will encourage this if it does no harm as far as college is concerned. If it will impact college, we will lay out the facts, provide some perspective and let the kid decide.
Anonymous
04/15/2017 21:11
Subject: Admission to SLACs after TJ
Anonymous wrote:
TJ sends more kids to MIT each year than SLACs combined. Look at the top TJ placements: GA Tech, the UCs, U Illinois Champaigne, MIT, Cornell, Carnegie Melon, VT Engineering, UT Austin, UVA & WM (which are strong in some areas of STEM, plus UVA Engineeribg), RPI, VCU (6 year MD program). Not SLACs. OP is an idiot. 90% of TJ kids end up in STEM-- generally very strong STEM.
OP here. The point of my question was to figure out how to get into the best college after TJ (not knowing which way my kid would go). My kid does well in all subjects right now but also wants to be able to do language and music all years. Please provide constructive responses if possible. If not just don't.
Oh.. here's an alternative response to your post... Who you calling idiot, you dumb bitch? Go back to school and learn how to read.
Feel free to respond to either of the above if you care..
Anonymous
04/15/2017 18:56
Subject: Admission to SLACs after TJ
Anonymous wrote:Per the list of persons ACCEPTED v. ENROLLED from 2010-16,
Amherst - 16 accepted, 4 enrolled
Bard - 6 accepted, 2 enrolled
Bates - 2 accepted, 1 enrolled
Bowdoin - 12 accepted, 4 enrolled
Carleton - 6 accepted, 1 enrolled
Colby- 9 accepted, 3 enrolled
Davidson - 12 accepted, 3 enrolled
Reed - 7 accepted, 1 enrolled
Vassar - 8 accepted, 2 enrolled
There just aren't many TJ kids applying to SLACs, but those who are will get in at the same percentage or better as from other schools...
7 years, 450 kids a class. Out of over 3000 kids to graduate, fewer than 80 accepted (and many of these are probably double and triple counts) and just 21 attended these schools. That's less than .7%.
Anonymous
04/15/2017 18:52
Subject: Admission to SLACs after TJ
Anonymous wrote:Per the list of persons ACCEPTED v. ENROLLED from 2010-16,
Amherst - 16 accepted, 4 enrolled
Bard - 6 accepted, 2 enrolled
Bates - 2 accepted, 1 enrolled
Bowdoin - 12 accepted, 4 enrolled
Carleton - 6 accepted, 1 enrolled
Colby- 9 accepted, 3 enrolled
Davidson - 12 accepted, 3 enrolled
Reed - 7 accepted, 1 enrolled
Vassar - 8 accepted, 2 enrolled
There just aren't many TJ kids applying to SLACs, but those who are will get in at the same percentage or better as from other schools...
This doesn't help without knowing how many applied...
Anonymous
04/15/2017 18:38
Subject: Admission to SLACs after TJ
Per the list of persons ACCEPTED v. ENROLLED from 2010-16,
Amherst - 16 accepted, 4 enrolled
Bard - 6 accepted, 2 enrolled
Bates - 2 accepted, 1 enrolled
Bowdoin - 12 accepted, 4 enrolled
Carleton - 6 accepted, 1 enrolled
Colby- 9 accepted, 3 enrolled
Davidson - 12 accepted, 3 enrolled
Reed - 7 accepted, 1 enrolled
Vassar - 8 accepted, 2 enrolled
There just aren't many TJ kids applying to SLACs, but those who are will get in at the same percentage or better as from other schools...
Amherst - 16 accepted, 4 enrolled
Bard - 6 accepted, 2 enrolled
Bates - 2 accepted, 1 enrolled
Bowdoin - 12 accepted, 4 enrolled
Carleton - 6 accepted, 1 enrolled
Colby- 9 accepted, 3 enrolled
Davidson - 12 accepted, 3 enrolled
Reed - 7 accepted, 1 enrolled
Vassar - 8 accepted, 2 enrolled
There just aren't many TJ kids applying to SLACs, but those who are will get in at the same percentage or better as from other schools...
Anonymous
04/15/2017 18:12
Subject: Admission to SLACs after TJ
Anonymous wrote:Another Fake-STEM kid going to TJ
Only surprise is most go to UVA. Sorry Op, nothing personal. I just do not like the false PR that kids go to TJ because they want to focus on STEM careers.
TJ sends more kids to MIT each year than SLACs combined. Look at the top TJ placements: GA Tech, the UCs, U Illinois Champaigne, MIT, Cornell, Carnegie Melon, VT Engineering, UT Austin, UVA & WM (which are strong in some areas of STEM, plus UVA Engineeribg), RPI, VCU (6 year MD program). Not SLACs. OP is an idiot. 90% of TJ kids end up in STEM-- generally very strong STEM.
Anonymous
04/15/2017 18:05
Subject: Admission to SLACs after TJ
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Almost any TJ kids should be fine for SLACs like Trinity,Wesleyan, Reed, Davidson, Bowdoin, Elon, etc. Schools a lot of private school kids going to who aren't the top 10 kids in the class. Have to think past the top 3 box.
Haha. You have not seen TJ naviance. Very few going to those schools. Like 1 each over several years
+1. I looked at Davidson last week for my kid. In the last 3 years, they have admitted 1/1, 1/2 and 1/6 (!!!). None admitted have attended. No GPAs or SATs given because the number who applied are too small. I was shocked at the year they took 1 out of 6. I'm guessing yield protection? At any rate, don't count on Davidson-- it looks like they have given up on TJ kids.
I just pulled Naviance back up. TJ kids are not applying to SLACs. Too few to get GPAs or SATs. And those that do are not being accepted. Here are some other SLAC numbers for 2014-2016:
Bowdoin takes about 1/2 of kids, with 2 enrolling in the last 3 years. Average GPA of applicants: 4.43 (which is mathematically impossible with 10 unweighted classes).
Trinity had 2 apply, 1 accepted, none enroll-- again too few to get a GPA.
Vassar has had 7 kids apply in the last 3 years-- 0 !!! Accepted.
Sarah Lawrence: 1 applied in 2014, not accepted
Pomona: 14 applicants (average applicant GPA 4.25), 3 admitted
Middlebery: 9 applicants, 3 accepted
Elon is 5/5-- but with close to a 60% acceptance rate overall (I grew up near there, and have never considered Elon selective)
Reed did decently: 5 applied, 4 accepted, 1 enrolled (again-- too small for a GPA)-- but it has a 49%!overall acceptance rate, so not sure it is selective
So no-- TJ kids are not getting into SLACs.
Anonymous
04/15/2017 18:03
Subject: Admission to SLACs after TJ
I looked quickly and counted 6-9 students accepted at SLACs. Out of class of 450.
Anonymous
04/15/2017 17:40
Subject: Admission to SLACs after TJ
Another Fake-STEM kid going to TJ
Only surprise is most go to UVA. Sorry Op, nothing personal. I just do not like the false PR that kids go to TJ because they want to focus on STEM careers.
Only surprise is most go to UVA. Sorry Op, nothing personal. I just do not like the false PR that kids go to TJ because they want to focus on STEM careers.
Anonymous
04/15/2017 17:31
Subject: Admission to SLACs after TJ
Anonymous wrote:Almost any TJ kids should be fine for SLACs like Trinity,Wesleyan, Reed, Davidson, Bowdoin, Elon, etc. Schools a lot of private school kids going to who aren't the top 10 kids in the class. Have to think past the top 3 box.
Haha. You have not seen TJ naviance. Very few going to those schools. Like 1 each over several years
Anonymous
04/15/2017 15:28
Subject: Admission to SLACs after TJ
Almost any TJ kids should be fine for SLACs like Trinity,Wesleyan, Reed, Davidson, Bowdoin, Elon, etc. Schools a lot of private school kids going to who aren't the top 10 kids in the class. Have to think past the top 3 box.