OP, if you are hetero, you should not give up on men totally. There are decent guys out there, trust me. It just takes sifting thru years and years of dating to find the right one. Meanwhile, if one isn't exhibiting marriage material qualities, don't waste too much time. I am talking does he cook, clean, have a career, can he fix things. If not, why waste more than 1-2 months. 1-2 weeks. Next! When you are married with kids, having a man who can hold things down and run a ship or wear different hats is great so you don't feel resentful that they are needy entitled blobs.

But tell one of them that they have to some actual heavy lifting to reap the benefits of this life.

WHAAAAAAAAAT? They say. I get all the rewards of life but should not have to work hard. In fact, I will f- up with your life and make you miserable if you expect me to do anything unpleasant.

That's male entitlement and all that goes with it.

With a little feminist conscious-raising, you'll see it everywhere. No cherry-picking from the definition of misandry required.

I am with you.

I just not know what happened with this generation of men. It's not so much that they are a€#holes. It's that they are so needy and incapable.

Friend #1: cancer, bad... Husband useless, can care for kids, can't deal with dinner, can't get the kids to,school. Okay I get it you need help, pick 1 thing you can do, we will create a calendar and do the rest, nope... Useless.

Friend #2: husband can't give her a shot, we make a schedule and trade off days...drive over 3 of us to give the shot for 3 weeks. It's a shot, it's not complivpcated. Do what SHE says, not what you think should be done.

Friend#3: H is in car accident, TBI.. Eventually dies after a long illness. She raises 3 kids alone, cares for a H, gets a job, puts 3 kids through college... Little to no help... We have to force her to take assistance.

I could go in and on and on. It's not that I hate men, I love to watch basketball with them. I just don't think they are much more than a drinking buddy.

Anonymous wrote:Misandry - dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against men (i.e., the male sex). Has nothing to do with inferiority. It's hating men.

No, not men. The behavior that some of them exhibit.

Misandry - dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against men (i.e., the male sex). Has nothing to do with inferiority. It's hating men.

Perhaps because it is misused when mentioned? Objecting to male entitlement is not to presume inferiority, it is object to PATRIARCHY. Quite a different thing. Read up.

Misandry is a far too underused word.

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Anonymous wrote:
After I became a mother, I found that I was less tolerate of the babying that some men need. I used to find it an intimate part of a relationship. I'm a nurturing person, it's my personality.

But, two babies and a divorce later, I surmise myself by how turned off I can get by those little things I used to find so endearing.

Me too. The last thing I need is a man who is gong to "need" me to take care of his needs.

+1

Well glad to see there are some kindred spirits here. I was expecting the other remarks. I guess I AM making the right choice for me, by not putting up with male BS, right? I'm fairly sure my tolerance for this type of thing is as low as it possibly can get.

And a lot of my annoyance is not related to romantic "options," though it has affected my desire to respond to them.

My cryptic original post is that I would never be open to discovering some guy that approached me is actually a rare unicorn of a mature, truly feminist man because every man I have to deal with in various spheres of life has exhibited this entitlement. All. of. them. Maybe some are worse about it than others, but that's not really saying much.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
After I became a mother, I found that I was less tolerate of the babying that some men need. I used to find it an intimate part of a relationship. I'm a nurturing person, it's my personality.

But, two babies and a divorce later, I surmise myself by how turned off I can get by those little things I used to find so endearing.

Me too. The last thing I need is a man who is gong to "need" me to take care of his needs.

Yep. I'm a single parent and my life is much easier just me and the kiddo. I don't have time to date - men always want to become the center of my life within 3-5 dates and/or have a booty call whenever they want. Umm...I HAVE A LIFE. I'd rather stay single than date man babies so that I can take care of yet another person.

Anonymous wrote:
After I became a mother, I found that I was less tolerate of the babying that some men need. I used to find it an intimate part of a relationship. I'm a nurturing person, it's my personality.

But, two babies and a divorce later, I surmise myself by how turned off I can get by those little things I used to find so endearing.

Me too. The last thing I need is a man who is gong to "need" me to take care of his needs.

Anonymous wrote:I agree, OP. For me it has nothing to do with men I choose to have in my life--these are coworkers, relatives, in-laws...all inescapable, and mostly asses.

Has not been my experience at all

If you occasionally bump into an asshole then that person is probably an asshole. If you are constantly bumping into assholes then it's probably you that's the asshole

I agree, OP. For me it has nothing to do with men I choose to have in my life--these are coworkers, relatives, in-laws...all inescapable, and mostly asses.

Make better choices?