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Anonymous wrote:I am sure the schools will be somewhat relieved - smaller class sizes and more attention to students who are not struggling.

Agree in part, though why do you assume all these kids struggle? Kids brought over illegal - sure they're ESL and who knows what primary education they had in their villages. But US citizen kids? They grow up learning English - even if thru TV in a Spanish speaking home; and they go to American school from the start so there's no reason for them to be behind; and while it may be shocking, first gen immigrants are hard on their kids re grades, even illegal ones who don't understand what their kids are studying still demand their kids get As and Bs bc they don't want their kids to be dishwashers and janitors.

My child goes to a high poverty school with high immigrant population- and I don't mean Asian, I mean Hispanic kids from families that hardly have any education and don't speak English. They may be even legal- but the third of their class is in special services due to not doing well in school, many kids are behind, some still have very limited English, etc etc.
just a week ago a new girl came with no English.
It's an uphill battle to teach those kids.

Which countries are they from?

Anonymous wrote:Why would those who are here legally face deportation?

If it happens, administrative incompetence and racism. This can be a factor if there's a big push to get work done and procedures aren't followed.

Obviously it was a different era, but under the Hoover administration people were rounded up based on nationality and shipped across the border. Legal citizens were deported. Some came back. Some did not.

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Anonymous wrote:Obviously the kids will either go to other relatives who can take them, or go into foster care, which is a safe and nurturing experience that will benefit them much more than staying with parents who are in the country illegally.

Oh, just kidding. It'll suck for the kids and it'll be one of the most, if not the most traumatic experience of their lives. The best thing parents who are here illegally can do is to legally name other people (who are here legally) to take their children if they are deported or detained.

Or take their anchor children with them. This isn't North Korea or Cuba, citizens are free to leave the country.

But where should the children go if the parents are citizens of different countries?

Why wouldn't the parents want to take their kids with them if they were deported?

My babysitter is a citizen of the Philippines and her husband is a citizen of Mexico. Where should they and their children go?

That's their problem. Perhaps illegal immigrants should have a plan for this.

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Anonymous wrote:I am sure the schools will be somewhat relieved - smaller class sizes and more attention to students who are not struggling.

Agree in part, though why do you assume all these kids struggle? Kids brought over illegal - sure they're ESL and who knows what primary education they had in their villages. But US citizen kids? They grow up learning English - even if thru TV in a Spanish speaking home; and they go to American school from the start so there's no reason for them to be behind; and while it may be shocking, first gen immigrants are hard on their kids re grades, even illegal ones who don't understand what their kids are studying still demand their kids get As and Bs bc they don't want their kids to be dishwashers and janitors.

My child goes to a high poverty school with high immigrant population- and I don't mean Asian, I mean Hispanic kids from families that hardly have any education and don't speak English. They may be even legal- but the third of their class is in special services due to not doing well in school, many kids are behind, some still have very limited English, etc etc.
just a week ago a new girl came with no English.
It's an uphill battle to teach those kids.

Yeah I don't know where the above poster is seeing that. I've worked in schools with largely poor latino populations, and they can stay in ESOL for the entirety of there high school experience. Many of them don't progress, and they don't come from homes demanding academic excellence. They come from homes that would be fine with them getting a job instead of going to class.

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Anonymous wrote:I am sure the schools will be somewhat relieved - smaller class sizes and more attention to students who are not struggling.

Agree in part, though why do you assume all these kids struggle? Kids brought over illegal - sure they're ESL and who knows what primary education they had in their villages. But US citizen kids? They grow up learning English - even if thru TV in a Spanish speaking home; and they go to American school from the start so there's no reason for them to be behind; and while it may be shocking, first gen immigrants are hard on their kids re grades, even illegal ones who don't understand what their kids are studying still demand their kids get As and Bs bc they don't want their kids to be dishwashers and janitors.

My child goes to a high poverty school with high immigrant population- and I don't mean Asian, I mean Hispanic kids from families that hardly have any education and don't speak English. They may be even legal- but the third of their class is in special services due to not doing well in school, many kids are behind, some still have very limited English, etc etc.
just a week ago a new girl came with no English.
It's an uphill battle to teach those kids.

Anonymous wrote:I am sure the schools will be somewhat relieved - smaller class sizes and more attention to students who are not struggling.

Agree in part, though why do you assume all these kids struggle? Kids brought over illegal - sure they're ESL and who knows what primary education they had in their villages. But US citizen kids? They grow up learning English - even if thru TV in a Spanish speaking home; and they go to American school from the start so there's no reason for them to be behind; and while it may be shocking, first gen immigrants are hard on their kids re grades, even illegal ones who don't understand what their kids are studying still demand their kids get As and Bs bc they don't want their kids to be dishwashers and janitors.

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Anonymous wrote:Obviously the kids will either go to other relatives who can take them, or go into foster care, which is a safe and nurturing experience that will benefit them much more than staying with parents who are in the country illegally.

Oh, just kidding. It'll suck for the kids and it'll be one of the most, if not the most traumatic experience of their lives. The best thing parents who are here illegally can do is to legally name other people (who are here legally) to take their children if they are deported or detained.

Or take their anchor children with them. This isn't North Korea or Cuba, citizens are free to leave the country.

But where should the children go if the parents are citizens of different countries?

Why wouldn't the parents want to take their kids with them if they were deported?

My babysitter is a citizen of the Philippines and her husband is a citizen of Mexico. Where should they and their children go?

Can't they go to either country?

It depends on what the immigration laws are in each country.

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Anonymous wrote:Obviously the kids will either go to other relatives who can take them, or go into foster care, which is a safe and nurturing experience that will benefit them much more than staying with parents who are in the country illegally.

Oh, just kidding. It'll suck for the kids and it'll be one of the most, if not the most traumatic experience of their lives. The best thing parents who are here illegally can do is to legally name other people (who are here legally) to take their children if they are deported or detained.

Or take their anchor children with them. This isn't North Korea or Cuba, citizens are free to leave the country.

Mixed status families are not uncommon, and family detention facilities are hellholes. None of us would want our kids there, particularly if they were US citizens and could avoid it.

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Anonymous wrote:Obviously the kids will either go to other relatives who can take them, or go into foster care, which is a safe and nurturing experience that will benefit them much more than staying with parents who are in the country illegally.

Oh, just kidding. It'll suck for the kids and it'll be one of the most, if not the most traumatic experience of their lives. The best thing parents who are here illegally can do is to legally name other people (who are here legally) to take their children if they are deported or detained.

Or take their anchor children with them. This isn't North Korea or Cuba, citizens are free to leave the country.

But where should the children go if the parents are citizens of different countries?

Why wouldn't the parents want to take their kids with them if they were deported?

My babysitter is a citizen of the Philippines and her husband is a citizen of Mexico. Where should they and their children go?

Either Mexico or the Philippines. See, it's not that difficult.

I am sure the schools will be somewhat relieved - smaller class sizes and more attention to students who are not struggling.

Why would those who are here legally face deportation?

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Anonymous wrote:Obviously the kids will either go to other relatives who can take them, or go into foster care, which is a safe and nurturing experience that will benefit them much more than staying with parents who are in the country illegally.

Oh, just kidding. It'll suck for the kids and it'll be one of the most, if not the most traumatic experience of their lives. The best thing parents who are here illegally can do is to legally name other people (who are here legally) to take their children if they are deported or detained.

Or take their anchor children with them. This isn't North Korea or Cuba, citizens are free to leave the country.

But where should the children go if the parents are citizens of different countries?

Why wouldn't the parents want to take their kids with them if they were deported?

My babysitter is a citizen of the Philippines and her husband is a citizen of Mexico. Where should they and their children go?

Can't they go to either country?

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Anonymous wrote:Obviously the kids will either go to other relatives who can take them, or go into foster care, which is a safe and nurturing experience that will benefit them much more than staying with parents who are in the country illegally.

Oh, just kidding. It'll suck for the kids and it'll be one of the most, if not the most traumatic experience of their lives. The best thing parents who are here illegally can do is to legally name other people (who are here legally) to take their children if they are deported or detained.

Or take their anchor children with them. This isn't North Korea or Cuba, citizens are free to leave the country.

But where should the children go if the parents are citizens of different countries?

Why wouldn't the parents want to take their kids with them if they were deported?

My babysitter is a citizen of the Philippines and her husband is a citizen of Mexico. Where should they and their children go?

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Anonymous wrote:Some local schools are walking kids home to make sure their parent is still there.

I do have friends who have drawn up a power of attorney triggered by detention or deportation. A PoA doesn't need to be filed with the court, so there is no danger of drawing the authorities' attention, but it would allow someone else to hold onto the kids in a mixed status family. Then they could file for guardianship so that the children could be reunited with their parents once the deportation proceedings were over. The child would still end up leaving the country, but not be subjected to the terrible "family detention center."

So you can use a POA instead of a standby guardianship in Virginia?

Do standby guardianship. We were given POA and when we went for guardianship the court would not honor it. We didn't know at the time. (we got set up, complicated situation)

The problem with standby guardianship in Virginia is you need to file it with the court. Not many people at risk of deportation will take that chance.

We made that mistake and lost the child.

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Anonymous wrote:Obviously the kids will either go to other relatives who can take them, or go into foster care, which is a safe and nurturing experience that will benefit them much more than staying with parents who are in the country illegally.

Oh, just kidding. It'll suck for the kids and it'll be one of the most, if not the most traumatic experience of their lives. The best thing parents who are here illegally can do is to legally name other people (who are here legally) to take their children if they are deported or detained.

Or take their anchor children with them. This isn't North Korea or Cuba, citizens are free to leave the country.

But where should the children go if the parents are citizens of different countries?

Why wouldn't the parents want to take their kids with them if they were deported?

Most will do anything to have their US citizen kids in the US - free public education, can work and send money back home at 18 etc. So most want a relative or friend to take them. If you don't have relatives or friends who are legal who can raise your kids, then they go back with you; but deportation takes time and kids will be put into deportation centers etc until the parents' deportation is final. So instead of subjecting kids to that, they want a legal friend to take the kids for the span of time that deportation takes - 2 months, 5 months, whatever - and then fly the kid back to Peru or wherever when the parents are finally there - spares the kid months in some center where they could be (though maybe not) separated from their parents and living in a facility.