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Anonymous wrote:I also want to know why they change to the nutritional intakes of kids. Where is this coming from?

There is a ton of food waste in the lunch program and it might be an attempt to scale back some of the changes that were made.

Truthfully, the school lunches today are really awful and if there are kids who need the lunch but then don't eat it because of taste , I would rather serve them something they will eat.

That would mean spending a little more money. A real cook in the kitchen, real meat flavored well, i.e. No mystery meat patties, better food items, vegetables cooked creatively- no watery canned beans and peas, make the cafeteria smell like something other than old milk and disinfectant.

Oh good. Every little denomination can have their own definition of what it means to be educated. Doesn't matter if you understand biology and physics but guess what? You can recite bible verses. It's all you'll need. Yippee!

I am a retired teacher. I taught public school for 18 years. I taught in a private school, and I now homeschool and teach tutorials for homeschool students. The county in which I reside, has very low-ranking public schools, three private schools, and a huge population of homeschoolers.

From the public school aspect, in large cities, yes, public school funding may be effected. Better performing public school will have an influx on students from the poorly performing schools, and a few will go to private school. I am from an area of 78% poverty, and the public school where I taught was a Title 1 school. Those schools may see the most fall out in a negative way, from the funds being cut. As far as lunches, we saw hungry children going from eating breakfast and lunch to continuing to be hungry because they would not eat the food, after nutrition standards changed. Teachers and parents, would bring in snacks for the children to have. Our cafeteria staff refused to see children go hungry and food go into the garbage. They went out of their way to prepare the food in a way that would be edible. In all of the research used to say children were more obese and school lunches were unhealthy, the fact that children spend more time indoors on electronics and sedentary, rather than being more active, was ignored in order to push an agenda. When my age group was in school in this same small school, lunches were awesome! Out of the children my age, only three were overweight and thinking back, those three were active children. I don't think their weight could be blamed on one meal a day. We also had two recesses, outdoors. Now, students don't have time for two recesses, because they have to be taught the information on a standardized test, that is biased to mostly city dwellers, rather than a rich, all inclusive education. I am not against a public education. Mine was excellent in that small, rural town. I am against the Federal Government micro-managing every aspect of that education when every community has different needs and standards.

From the private school aspect, many will have a cap on how many students will be allowed to attend. Many private schools will refuse the government money, because with the acceptance of government funds, comes regulations that most private schools do no want. With the bill, only the amount of funds given to public schools (about $65 a day) will be given to children going to private schools. The children already going to private schools do NOT have money going to the public school, anyway, so there wouldn't be a change in their amounts going to the public school system. Have you looked at the cost of private schools? The least expensive private school near us is $6000. They are also the lowest attended and can't even afford substitutes for their classes. One of the most expensive in our area (the city near us, in another county) is about $28K a year. Parents who send their children to this school, would still have to come up with $17K a year for their child to attend.

There will likely be an increase in charter schools, especially large businesses, that may start schools for children of employees.

As far as homeschoolers, most homeschool families (both secular and religious) do not want money from the government, because with that, comes more regulations. After evaluating curriculum for the majority of the years I was a public school teacher, I can safely say that the curriculum our family uses, and what I use to tutor, is much more challenging than any I used in public school. One example that came up a few months ago, in public school science curriculum, the vocabulary for a unit included "living" and "non-living." In the homeschool curriculum I teach, the 2nd grade vocabulary in the same topic was "biotic" and "abiotic. Most families who seriously homeschool their children, are getting the top scholarships in universities. Out of our three high school graduates, we have had two make 31 and one make 32 on the ACT and scholarships that fully paid for college because of their academic success. We do not qualify for financial aid in the form of grants, and they have had to earn their tuition paid in the form of scholarships.

Many uninformed comments have been made about homeschool families in this forum. I wanted to make sure I cleared up some misconceptions.

Anonymous wrote:

There is a ton of food waste in the lunch program and it might be an attempt to scale back some of the changes that were made.

Truthfully, the school lunches today are really awful and if there are kids who need the lunch but then don't eat it because of taste , I would rather serve them something they will eat.

Agree. Food is not nutritious if kids don't eat it.

I volunteer with a weekend backpack program for children to have food on the weekends. At first we gave them things like peanut butter crackers, bananas, oranges, cinnamon oatmeal to which they only had to add hot water, string cheese, shelf life milk, juice boxes, bags of carrots and snap peas, pop top cans of soup with the hope that they or someone would heat them for them. We found that parents, older siblings, and others in the house were taking anything with any flavor and leaving the children with oatmeal, carrots and snap peas. We have had to go mostly to things that don't taste so good, but which the children have a chance of keeping for themselves.

There is a ton of food waste in the lunch program and it might be an attempt to scale back some of the changes that were made.

Truthfully, the school lunches today are really awful and if there are kids who need the lunch but then don't eat it because of taste , I would rather serve them something they will eat.

Agree. Food is not nutritious if kids don't eat it.

Anonymous wrote:House Bill 610 makes some large changes. Inform yourselves.
This bill will effectively start the school voucher system to be used by children ages 5-17, and starts the defunding process of public schools.
In addition the bill will eliminate the Elementary and Education Act of 1965, which is the nation's educational law and provides equal opportunity in education.
It would repeal ESSA (Every Students Succeeds Act):
ESSA is a big comprehensive program that covers programs for struggling learners, AP classes, ESL classes, classes for minorities such as Native Americans, Rural Education, Education for the Homeless, School Safety (Gun-Free schools), Monitoring and Compliance and Federal Accountability Programs.
The Bill also abolishes the Nutritional Act of 2012 (No Hungry Kids Act) which provides nutritional standards in school breakfast and lunch.
The bill has no wording whatsoever protecting SN kids, no mention of IDEA and FAPE.
Some things ESSA does for Children with Disabilities
-Ensures access to the general education curriculum.
-Ensures access to accommodations on assessments.
-Ensures concepts of Universal Design for Learning
-Includes provisions that require local education agencies to provide evidence-based
interventions in schools with consistently underperforming subgroups.
-Requires states in Title I plans to address how they will improve conditions for learning including reducing incidents of bullying and harassment in schools, overuse of discipline practices and reduce the use of aversive behavioral interventions (such as restraints and seclusion).


If this is not what you support, then engage your Congressmen right away.

This is the bill. Did any of you look it up.



Shown Here:
Introduced in House (01/23/2017)

Choices in Education Act of 2017

This bill repeals the Elementary and Secondary Education Act of 1965 and limits the authority of the Department of Education (ED) such that ED is authorized only to award block grants to qualified states.

The bill establishes an education voucher program, through which each state shall distribute block grant funds among local educational agencies (LEAs) based on the number of eligible children within each LEA's geographical area. From these amounts, each LEA shall: (1) distribute a portion of funds to parents who elect to enroll their child in a private school or to home-school their child, and (2) do so in a manner that ensures that such payments will be used for appropriate educational expenses.

To be eligible to receive a block grant, a state must: (1) comply with education voucher program requirements, and (2) make it lawful for parents of an eligible child to elect to enroll their child in any public or private elementary or secondary school in the state or to home-school their child.

No Hungry Kids Act

The bill repeals a specified rule that established certain nutrition standards for the national school lunch and breakfast programs. (In general, the rule requires schools to increase the availability of fruits, vegetables, whole grains, and low-fat or fat free milk in school meals; reduce the levels of sodium, saturated fat, and trans fat in school meals; and meet children's nutritional needs within their caloric requirements.)

Anonymous wrote:House Bill 610 makes some large changes. Inform yourselves.
This bill will effectively start the school voucher system to be used by children ages 5-17, and starts the defunding process of public schools.
In addition the bill will eliminate the Elementary and Education Act of 1965, which is the nation's educational law and provides equal opportunity in education.
It would repeal ESSA (Every Students Succeeds Act):
ESSA is a big comprehensive program that covers programs for struggling learners, AP classes, ESL classes, classes for minorities such as Native Americans, Rural Education, Education for the Homeless, School Safety (Gun-Free schools), Monitoring and Compliance and Federal Accountability Programs.
The Bill also abolishes the Nutritional Act of 2012 (No Hungry Kids Act) which provides nutritional standards in school breakfast and lunch.
The bill has no wording whatsoever protecting SN kids, no mention of IDEA and FAPE.
Some things ESSA does for Children with Disabilities
-Ensures access to the general education curriculum.
-Ensures access to accommodations on assessments.
-Ensures concepts of Universal Design for Learning
-Includes provisions that require local education agencies to provide evidence-based
interventions in schools with consistently underperforming subgroups.
-Requires states in Title I plans to address how they will improve conditions for learning including reducing incidents of bullying and harassment in schools, overuse of discipline practices and reduce the use of aversive behavioral interventions (such as restraints and seclusion).


If this is not what you support, then engage your Congressmen right away.

What an i missing it doesnt say any of those things. Only the top 2.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/610/all-info

There is nothing wrong with school lunches. Some days this is all a kid gets. Our lunches have fruit and veggies everyday. We get lots of thank yous for breakfast and lunch. We need public schools. What is wrong with this new government

Well, Bannon said he wants to destroy the governmental departments. And he meant it.

Why is it that no one in Congress is trying to stop Bannon. His ideology is INSANE and he's call all the shots.

Anonymous wrote:One of the cosponsor of this bill is Andy Harris from Maryland.

A lot of provincial Christian extremist homeschoolers.

It's about the corn and potato lobbies getting phased-out of school lunch programs. High fructose corn syrup, canola, and french fries are very profitable parts of Diabetes Inc.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also want to know why they change to the nutritional intakes of kids. Where is this coming from?

There is a ton of food waste in the lunch program and it might be an attempt to scale back some of the changes that were made.

Truthfully, the school lunches today are really awful and if there are kids who need the lunch but then don't eat it because of taste , I would rather serve them something they will eat.

Schools get about $1.50 from USDA to feed each student. In the past, Congress played games so that ketchup was considered a vegetable and kids got high caloric crap with little nutritional value. Many kids aren't going to eat mass-produced school food unless it's garbage like favored milk, chicken nuggets, pizza and fries. This is about erasing the legacy of the Obamas.

It's also about the Ag lobby. But I agree. I always said that MO's focus on sustainable agriculture and fresh foods was deeply subversive (in the best way possible). It's notable that she switched to a focus on exercise instead of nutrition around the time of the 2012 campaign. She was a huge existential threat to entrenched interests clad in JCrew cardigans and designer dresses.

Wow, do I miss her

This is awful. The school lunch part of it is nothing compared to the rest of the bill. They want to take down the public school system. It's like repeal and replace. But, like with health care, replace is only good for those who already have money.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also want to know why they change to the nutritional intakes of kids. Where is this coming from?

There is a ton of food waste in the lunch program and it might be an attempt to scale back some of the changes that were made.

Truthfully, the school lunches today are really awful and if there are kids who need the lunch but then don't eat it because of taste , I would rather serve them something they will eat.

Schools get about $1.50 from USDA to feed each student. In the past, Congress played games so that ketchup was considered a vegetable and kids got high caloric crap with little nutritional value. Many kids aren't going to eat mass-produced school food unless it's garbage like favored milk, chicken nuggets, pizza and fries. This is about erasing the legacy of the Obamas.

this is awful. i wish we could deport everyone who scored less than a 1450 on their SAT's.