Anonymous
Post 02/20/2017 11:45     Subject: Re:Sleazy trio deliver deal to the White House to lift sanctions on Russia

I don't think this is sensational enough for the random Joe to really care or be affected.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2017 11:36     Subject: Sleazy trio deliver deal to the White House to lift sanctions on Russia

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why don't the Republicans do anything? Are we supposed to rely on the IC to release classified information that will sink these crooked Trump people? And Comey is compromised. Will he limit the FBI investigations?

Aren't the Trump people busy destroying documents that would prove their people met with the Russians during the campaign and the transition?

This is such a mess, all of Trump's making. He's as corrupt as they come.


They are getting away with it because too many foolish voters still think this is a Republican vs. Democrat thing. It's not. It's a 1% vs the 99% thing and most Republicans are among the 99% with the rest of us Democrats.


This is offensive, plenty of rich liberals, particularly in this area, class warfare is not the answer.


Yet that is ENTIRELY what US politics has degenerated into. He who has the most money wins. They have bought Congress and Trump and others pander to them. They totally ignore the 99%. As offensive as it is and as much as you don't want to hear it, the game is all about 1%er libs versus 1%er Republicans versus 1%er Koch bros et cetera and the rest of us are on the sidelines helpless. This is why we need to fix Citizens United, this is why we need to make sure corporations are NOT given the same rights as people, this is why we need to fix campaign finance and eliminate dark money, this is why we need lobbying reform. The rich liberals need to understand and acknowledge and get behind this. As do the rich Republicans who are horrified with Trump.


Members of Congress are having big fundraisers to schmooze with the rich yet many of them are refusing to have townhalls, their phones just ring without being answered, they are not directly reachable via regular email, they are not meeting with constituents and in fact if you show up at some of their offices without an appointment (which for many of them is virtually impossible to get) they will have security come and remove you. Same with Trump who is doing fundraisers and schmoozing with his rich friends at Mar-A-Lago yet anyone who wants to express a concern either cannot get near or is ejected if they do.

That is not a government of the people.


Not it is not.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2017 11:35     Subject: Sleazy trio deliver deal to the White House to lift sanctions on Russia

Anonymous wrote:Nothing will be done until everyone's looted everything. Isn't that obvious by now? Corporations have been working on this set-up for a long time, and their purchased flunkies in Congress are lining their pockets too.


It will only come down when the whole economy comes crashing down and the government is so looted that it can not help the voters.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2017 10:30     Subject: Sleazy trio deliver deal to the White House to lift sanctions on Russia

Anonymous wrote:This link sums things up pretty nicely

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/2/20/14625788/trump-russia-putin-manafort-page-stone


This can no longer be ignored, Republicans should be horrified.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2017 10:29     Subject: Sleazy trio deliver deal to the White House to lift sanctions on Russia

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why don't the Republicans do anything? Are we supposed to rely on the IC to release classified information that will sink these crooked Trump people? And Comey is compromised. Will he limit the FBI investigations?

Aren't the Trump people busy destroying documents that would prove their people met with the Russians during the campaign and the transition?

This is such a mess, all of Trump's making. He's as corrupt as they come.


They are getting away with it because too many foolish voters still think this is a Republican vs. Democrat thing. It's not. It's a 1% vs the 99% thing and most Republicans are among the 99% with the rest of us Democrats.


This is offensive, plenty of rich liberals, particularly in this area, class warfare is not the answer.


Yet that is ENTIRELY what US politics has degenerated into. He who has the most money wins. They have bought Congress and Trump and others pander to them. They totally ignore the 99%. As offensive as it is and as much as you don't want to hear it, the game is all about 1%er libs versus 1%er Republicans versus 1%er Koch bros et cetera and the rest of us are on the sidelines helpless. This is why we need to fix Citizens United, this is why we need to make sure corporations are NOT given the same rights as people, this is why we need to fix campaign finance and eliminate dark money, this is why we need lobbying reform. The rich liberals need to understand and acknowledge and get behind this. As do the rich Republicans who are horrified with Trump.


Members of Congress are having big fundraisers to schmooze with the rich yet many of them are refusing to have townhalls, their phones just ring without being answered, they are not directly reachable via regular email, they are not meeting with constituents and in fact if you show up at some of their offices without an appointment (which for many of them is virtually impossible to get) they will have security come and remove you. Same with Trump who is doing fundraisers and schmoozing with his rich friends at Mar-A-Lago yet anyone who wants to express a concern either cannot get near or is ejected if they do.

That is not a government of the people.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2017 10:27     Subject: Sleazy trio deliver deal to the White House to lift sanctions on Russia

Anonymous
Post 02/20/2017 10:26     Subject: Sleazy trio deliver deal to the White House to lift sanctions on Russia

Anonymous wrote:This thread isn't about regular politics, it is about saving the Republic. According to this, the President is being blackmailed:

https://www.palmerreport.com/politics/russian-mafia-figure-felix-sater-donald-trump-putin/1607/


This is also why we need thorough vetting of political candidates and why they cannot have any outside business or financial interests or issues which are conflicts of interest and which could compromise them.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2017 10:23     Subject: Sleazy trio deliver deal to the White House to lift sanctions on Russia

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why don't the Republicans do anything? Are we supposed to rely on the IC to release classified information that will sink these crooked Trump people? And Comey is compromised. Will he limit the FBI investigations?

Aren't the Trump people busy destroying documents that would prove their people met with the Russians during the campaign and the transition?

This is such a mess, all of Trump's making. He's as corrupt as they come.


They are getting away with it because too many foolish voters still think this is a Republican vs. Democrat thing. It's not. It's a 1% vs the 99% thing and most Republicans are among the 99% with the rest of us Democrats.


This is offensive, plenty of rich liberals, particularly in this area, class warfare is not the answer.


Yet that is ENTIRELY what US politics has degenerated into. He who has the most money wins. They have bought Congress and Trump and others pander to them. They totally ignore the 99%. As offensive as it is and as much as you don't want to hear it, the game is all about 1%er libs versus 1%er Republicans versus 1%er Koch bros et cetera and the rest of us are on the sidelines helpless. This is why we need to fix Citizens United, this is why we need to make sure corporations are NOT given the same rights as people, this is why we need to fix campaign finance and eliminate dark money, this is why we need lobbying reform. The rich liberals need to understand and acknowledge and get behind this. As do the rich Republicans who are horrified with Trump.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2017 10:21     Subject: Sleazy trio deliver deal to the White House to lift sanctions on Russia

This thread isn't about regular politics, it is about saving the Republic. According to this, the President is being blackmailed:

https://www.palmerreport.com/politics/russian-mafia-figure-felix-sater-donald-trump-putin/1607/
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2017 09:19     Subject: Sleazy trio deliver deal to the White House to lift sanctions on Russia

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why don't the Republicans do anything? Are we supposed to rely on the IC to release classified information that will sink these crooked Trump people? And Comey is compromised. Will he limit the FBI investigations?

Aren't the Trump people busy destroying documents that would prove their people met with the Russians during the campaign and the transition?

This is such a mess, all of Trump's making. He's as corrupt as they come.


They are getting away with it because too many foolish voters still think this is a Republican vs. Democrat thing. It's not. It's a 1% vs the 99% thing and most Republicans are among the 99% with the rest of us Democrats.


This is offensive, plenty of rich liberals, particularly in this area, class warfare is not the answer.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2017 09:16     Subject: Sleazy trio deliver deal to the White House to lift sanctions on Russia

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why don't the Republicans do anything? Are we supposed to rely on the IC to release classified information that will sink these crooked Trump people? And Comey is compromised. Will he limit the FBI investigations?

Aren't the Trump people busy destroying documents that would prove their people met with the Russians during the campaign and the transition?

This is such a mess, all of Trump's making. He's as corrupt as they come.


They are getting away with it because too many foolish voters still think this is a Republican vs. Democrat thing. It's not. It's a 1% vs the 99% thing and most Republicans are among the 99% with the rest of us Democrats.


A good number of the people in the top one percent are horrified by Trump, including myself. Trump and the entire Republican Party are bing kept afloat by the elderly and those without college degrees.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2017 09:08     Subject: Sleazy trio deliver deal to the White House to lift sanctions on Russia

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have to have faith that sunlight will destroy this mold on our democracy.


Not if they destroy everyone trying to shine sunlight by declaring the media to be "fake" and "the enemy."

True. But while the nation seems to have lost its collective mind, we need to remember: the political left is the majority. Just because people are engaging in gaslighting doesn't mean we have to fall for it.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2017 08:45     Subject: Sleazy trio deliver deal to the White House to lift sanctions on Russia

Anonymous wrote:The good news is if we know this much think of how much more IC knows. At this point I think they are slowly building such a monumental pile of evidence that congress eventually will have no choice but to impeach and all congressmen and senators will have to vote to impeach to be considered a rational human. They're taking him down.


^^this.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2017 08:35     Subject: Sleazy trio deliver deal to the White House to lift sanctions on Russia

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have to have faith that sunlight will destroy this mold on our democracy.


Not if they destroy everyone trying to shine sunlight by declaring the media to be "fake" and "the enemy."


http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/320268-reince-priebus-take-trump-seriously-when-he-calls-the-press-the-enemy
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2017 08:34     Subject: Sleazy trio deliver deal to the White House to lift sanctions on Russia