Anonymous wrote:I live in Nauck. I was not aware of the "double boundary" deal with Hoffman-Boston. The PDF that was linked defines Nauck students as: All students who live in the Nauck community (those children residing in the Nauck Civic
Association neighborhood who also live within the Hoffman-Boston attendance area). The Hoffman-Boston attendance zone on the current maps doesn't include Nauck, so I'm confused. Not doubting PP. In fact, it would be interesting to know if we could send our children to Claremont.

I'm not aware of any preference for Nauck neighborhood residents in the Montessori lottery. None was stated when we applied, but we did wind up with a high waitlist number, so I guess it's possible.

the new boundary locator map doesn't show the overlap btwn Nauck and Hoffman Boston for whatever reason. however, the old pdf him fancy version did show it. I think the neighborhood preference thing will go away after they move Montessori to Henry if not sooner.

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Anonymous wrote:I live in Nauck. I was not aware of the "double boundary" deal with Hoffman-Boston. The PDF that was linked defines Nauck students as: All students who live in the Nauck community (those children residing in the Nauck Civic
Association neighborhood who also live within the Hoffman-Boston attendance area). The Hoffman-Boston attendance zone on the current maps doesn't include Nauck, so I'm confused. Not doubting PP. In fact, it would be interesting to know if we could send our children to Claremont.

I'm not aware of any preference for Nauck neighborhood residents in the Montessori lottery. None was stated when we applied, but we did wind up with a high waitlist number, so I guess it's possible.

Did you do pre k Montessori at Drew? The preference works like this - as I understand it.
You get guaranteed admission to Montessori in k, if you do pre k Montessori at Drew. So, if that is your zoned pre-k, you would have much higher likelihood of getting into Montessori at Drew, putting those living nearby at an advantage.
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong.

PP here. As I understand it, the Drew Montessori is a county-wide program. The only lottery preference that I know of is based on income, not address. Once in the Drew Montessori, you're guaranteed admission to APS Montessori (or Drew Montessori?) going forward into elementary. You are also preferred for Drew elementary (not pre-K) Montessori if you live in Nauck and have prior Montessori experience.

I think the neighborhood pre-K thing is VPI, which is different and I don't know anything about that program. I may not know much about the Montessori program either, who knows. But my child is currently in the Drew Montessori pre-K program and the above is what I remember being told when we applied for the lottery.

I am confused. There is Montessori pre k at most of the elementary schools in APS. Where you live determines which school you would apply for Montessori pre k. If you are zoned for Montessori pre k at drew and you are admitted, you are guaranteed a spot in Montessori K at Drew. So, it's a county wide program with preference for children zoned pre k at Drew. Correct?
Who's on first?

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Anonymous wrote:I live in Nauck. I was not aware of the "double boundary" deal with Hoffman-Boston. The PDF that was linked defines Nauck students as: All students who live in the Nauck community (those children residing in the Nauck Civic
Association neighborhood who also live within the Hoffman-Boston attendance area). The Hoffman-Boston attendance zone on the current maps doesn't include Nauck, so I'm confused. Not doubting PP. In fact, it would be interesting to know if we could send our children to Claremont.

I'm not aware of any preference for Nauck neighborhood residents in the Montessori lottery. None was stated when we applied, but we did wind up with a high waitlist number, so I guess it's possible.

Did you do pre k Montessori at Drew? The preference works like this - as I understand it.
You get guaranteed admission to Montessori in k, if you do pre k Montessori at Drew. So, if that is your zoned pre-k, you would have much higher likelihood of getting into Montessori at Drew, putting those living nearby at an advantage.
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong.

drew principal said last night at APS Montessori open house that Drew neighborhood kids also have to enter lottery for pre k Montessori at Drew as well. so there's that.

(of course it's also possible there's room in pre k Montessori at Drew so no need for lottery - i guess first come first served?)

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Anonymous wrote:I live in Nauck. I was not aware of the "double boundary" deal with Hoffman-Boston. The PDF that was linked defines Nauck students as: All students who live in the Nauck community (those children residing in the Nauck Civic
Association neighborhood who also live within the Hoffman-Boston attendance area). The Hoffman-Boston attendance zone on the current maps doesn't include Nauck, so I'm confused. Not doubting PP. In fact, it would be interesting to know if we could send our children to Claremont.

I'm not aware of any preference for Nauck neighborhood residents in the Montessori lottery. None was stated when we applied, but we did wind up with a high waitlist number, so I guess it's possible.

Did you do pre k Montessori at Drew? The preference works like this - as I understand it.
You get guaranteed admission to Montessori in k, if you do pre k Montessori at Drew. So, if that is your zoned pre-k, you would have much higher likelihood of getting into Montessori at Drew, putting those living nearby at an advantage.
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong.

PP here. As I understand it, the Drew Montessori is a county-wide program. The only lottery preference that I know of is based on income, not address. Once in the Drew Montessori, you're guaranteed admission to APS Montessori (or Drew Montessori?) going forward into elementary. You are also preferred for Drew elementary (not pre-K) Montessori if you live in Nauck and have prior Montessori experience.

I think the neighborhood pre-K thing is VPI, which is different and I don't know anything about that program. I may not know much about the Montessori program either, who knows. But my child is currently in the Drew Montessori pre-K program and the above is what I remember being told when we applied for the lottery.

Anonymous wrote:I live in Nauck. I was not aware of the "double boundary" deal with Hoffman-Boston. The PDF that was linked defines Nauck students as: All students who live in the Nauck community (those children residing in the Nauck Civic
Association neighborhood who also live within the Hoffman-Boston attendance area). The Hoffman-Boston attendance zone on the current maps doesn't include Nauck, so I'm confused. Not doubting PP. In fact, it would be interesting to know if we could send our children to Claremont.

I'm not aware of any preference for Nauck neighborhood residents in the Montessori lottery. None was stated when we applied, but we did wind up with a high waitlist number, so I guess it's possible.

Did you do pre k Montessori at Drew? The preference works like this - as I understand it.
You get guaranteed admission to Montessori in k, if you do pre k Montessori at Drew. So, if that is your zoned pre-k, you would have much higher likelihood of getting into Montessori at Drew, putting those living nearby at an advantage.
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong.

I live in Nauck. I was not aware of the "double boundary" deal with Hoffman-Boston. The PDF that was linked defines Nauck students as: All students who live in the Nauck community (those children residing in the Nauck Civic
Association neighborhood who also live within the Hoffman-Boston attendance area). The Hoffman-Boston attendance zone on the current maps doesn't include Nauck, so I'm confused. Not doubting PP. In fact, it would be interesting to know if we could send our children to Claremont.

I'm not aware of any preference for Nauck neighborhood residents in the Montessori lottery. None was stated when we applied, but we did wind up with a high waitlist number, so I guess it's possible.

As I understand it, Montessori at Drew has had room, and no waiting list. Be interesting to see if that changes after they get their own building.

Anonymous wrote:We are in near Nauck and are planning to take advantage of the public pre k and guaranteed ES Montessori placement.

If you are a couple years out from school I'd watch what happens with the boundaries/programs in S. Arlington. Once Montessori is moved and they redraw all the boundaries, neighborhoods may not have the same preferences they do now.

We are in near Nauck and are planning to take advantage of the public pre k and guaranteed ES Montessori placement.

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Anonymous wrote:So we are all in agreement that people living in Nauck are likely SOL to get into Claremont?

No, I am not in agreement, but apparently everyone thinks they know better than someone actually living in Nauck who just registered her kid for school.

What a crazy policy. One neighborhood is zoned to two neighborhood schools, and has guaranteed admittance to two different choice programs? So yes, you're cool for this year but I would not expect anyone living in Nauck to have the same options they do now for the following year.

Yeah, I agree it is crazy. I am not sure what the policy is, but I think it has something to do with the traditional class at Drew being so small due to the Montessori program. I expect it to change once they move the Montessori to Henry.

I think Nauck only has guaranteed admission to one choice program though. They don't have guaranteed admission to the Montessori program if that is what you are thinking. At least not as far as I know!

That is what I'm thinking. Maybe not guaranteed, but they do have preference in the lottery. At least, they have preference for the Pre-K Montessori program, and then those kids have guaranteed acceptance into the Montessori ES, right? So it's a more involved preference, but still one based on neighborhood.

Oh, okay interesting. We didn't look into public preschool so I am not really aware of how that works. Interesting. I guess we kind of lucked out for all the bashing everyone does of Nauck, there are some perks

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Anonymous wrote:So we are all in agreement that people living in Nauck are likely SOL to get into Claremont?

No, I am not in agreement, but apparently everyone thinks they know better than someone actually living in Nauck who just registered her kid for school.

What a crazy policy. One neighborhood is zoned to two neighborhood schools, and has guaranteed admittance to two different choice programs? So yes, you're cool for this year but I would not expect anyone living in Nauck to have the same options they do now for the following year.

Yeah, I agree it is crazy. I am not sure what the policy is, but I think it has something to do with the traditional class at Drew being so small due to the Montessori program. I expect it to change once they move the Montessori to Henry.

I think Nauck only has guaranteed admission to one choice program though. They don't have guaranteed admission to the Montessori program if that is what you are thinking. At least not as far as I know!

That is what I'm thinking. Maybe not guaranteed, but they do have preference in the lottery. At least, they have preference for the Pre-K Montessori program, and then those kids have guaranteed acceptance into the Montessori ES, right? So it's a more involved preference, but still one based on neighborhood.

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Anonymous wrote:So we are all in agreement that people living in Nauck are likely SOL to get into Claremont?

No, I am not in agreement, but apparently everyone thinks they know better than someone actually living in Nauck who just registered her kid for school.

What a crazy policy. One neighborhood is zoned to two neighborhood schools, and has guaranteed admittance to two different choice programs? So yes, you're cool for this year but I would not expect anyone living in Nauck to have the same options they do now for the following year.

Yeah, I agree it is crazy. I am not sure what the policy is, but I think it has something to do with the traditional class at Drew being so small due to the Montessori program. I expect it to change once they move the Montessori to Henry.

I think Nauck only has guaranteed admission to one choice program though. They don't have guaranteed admission to the Montessori program if that is what you are thinking. At least not as far as I know!

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Anonymous wrote:So we are all in agreement that people living in Nauck are likely SOL to get into Claremont?

No, I am not in agreement, but apparently everyone thinks they know better than someone actually living in Nauck who just registered her kid for school.

What a crazy policy. One neighborhood is zoned to two neighborhood schools, and has guaranteed admittance to two different choice programs? So yes, you're cool for this year but I would not expect anyone living in Nauck to have the same options they do now for the following year.

Anonymous wrote:So we are all in agreement that people living in Nauck are likely SOL to get into Claremont?

No, I am not in agreement, but apparently everyone thinks they know better than someone actually living in Nauck who just registered her kid for school.

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If you are zoned for Drew, you do currently get automatic admission to Claremont if you are interested in that.

This is incorrect. Drew is not part of the automatic Claremont cluster admission- https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/legacy_assets/www/26c4621ab8-25-2.2-enrollment-transfers.pdf
" the Cluster (Abingdon/Hoffman-Boston /Oakridge) for Claremont are guaranteed admission to that school."

If you are in the Drew boundary you have almost no chance of getting into Claremont.
Claremont is really overcrowded. It fills with students from the cluster and siblings.

This does not take into account the map. They have basically drawn lines that make Claremont a neighborhood school. If you just signed up with no issue, it is because they have space this year.

Or because the Staff thought you were submitting an application for the lottery. You would have no issue doing that. It is not the same as being admitted.

No, I was admitted. I dropped off all registration paperwork. I have emails from the registrar at Claremont and from Gladis Bourdouane , who is in charge of School and Community relations, I believe for the county. Her exact email to me says

"for addresses such as this one, where they live in Nauck, they also belong to the Hoffman-Boston ES zone and have preference admission to Claremont" And I am not an idiot I know the difference between the transfer app. I dropped the transfer/lottery app off first and then was sent an email which says "Since you live in the Claremont Cluster you child qualifies for priority admission" You are eligible to register now" Then I dropped off the entire registration packet which was accepted.

I know no one wants to believe me here but I researched this when we moved into Nauck in 2014 and then again this year since my son is entering K. I have multiple emails telling me that me neighborhood in Nauck is part of the Hoffman Boston ES zone which gets preference into Claremont. I have been to multiple Drew planning meetings talking about the impact of being also zoned for Hoffman Boston has on the population at Drew and how a large part of Nauck goes to Claremont.

I am not sure why you would think that both the Claremont registar and Ms. Bourdouane would be lying to me or "confused." As you can see from the link the PP so kindly provided it notes that Hoffman-Boston is part of the cluster that is guaranteed admission to Claremont. If you look below that in the Drew section it notes that those living in nauck civic association also live in the Hoffman-boston area and can chose to go to either Drew of Hoffman-Boston. We are zoned for both schools. Because we are zoned for Hoffman-boston as well as Drew we can get into Claremont.


Again, all of my neighbors go to Claremont. They didn't have to apply through the lottery they just registered.