Anonymous wrote:Our announced at 4:55pm today they were closing tomorrow for the strike.

I would be really really pissed.

Gosh, I hope our childcare center doesn't do the "day without women" - there'd be nobody there!

How is having 1/3 or whatever it is of the lawyers not working for one day going to make a point at a law firm? That they CAN make it through the day without those people so they should look for a job?

Honestly, this just isn't the way to make a point.

They didn't close and I would have demanded a credit for that day if they did. I pay for daycare. So if you are closing for something not laid out in our contract and not due to the weather than I won't be paying for that day. Make whatever political statement you want but don't expect me to pay you for your time while you do it.

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Anonymous wrote:If that is the case, I hope they are refunding your money for that day.

For real.

Then I'd seriously start looking for another daycare.

Yes, I pay them for a service, if they -by choice- decide to close for a reason not spelled out in advance such as weather, I would expect a refund. I have to report to work and by them closing I lose out on my pay if I have to stay home.

Really?! It's one damn day for them to engage in civil disobedience and stand up for themselves. If ours closes I am taking my kid to work to amplify the point. Yes, I do realize not everyone can do that and there will be some discomfort... but, THIS IS WHAT DEMOCRACY LOOKS LIKE.

Part of civil disobedience is being willing to accept the consequences of your actions for what you perceive to be the greater good. If you commit an illegal act as part of civil disobedience, you are not absolved of the crime and are expected to serve your sentence and/or pay whatever penalty is applicable.

In this context, if the daycare chose to close to suppprt immigrants (their staff or more broadly) they should be expected to accept the consequences of their action which is forgoing they money they were to have received for providing a service that they refused to in protest.

Part of civil disobedience is often sacrificing for the cause.

They should be fired. It's still playing hooky from work imo. Are we talking illegals here, lol.

It's an excuse not to work. It's not a national holiday and basically a bunch of cry babies whose candidate didn't win. Nothing to see here.

It shows UMC privileged white women how important immigrants are.

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Anonymous wrote:A strike is an organized refusal or decision to not show up at work. How is this not a strike?

A strike is usually defined as an organized effort by employees to refuse to work in order to gain concessions from the employer, but it's a different beast in this case. I don't know of any situations (restaurants, schools, etc.) where employees who are participating do not have the permission/blessing of their employers to be out, though perhaps there are some.

It's a different beast in this case because there are no concessions to be gained from employers, which is why the whole concept doesn't make much sense.

My daycare director clearly was not happy about the no shows today, but the choice is either make due or fire the people and I can see why she didn't want to fire them. It just puts the employers in a very bad spot.

A protest would be an organized march.

Correct. If the point of the protest was to show EMPLOYERS how valuable immigrants are, then this would make sense. But I'm not sure how it shows the administration how valuable immigrants are.

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Anonymous wrote:A strike is an organized refusal or decision to not show up at work. How is this not a strike?

A strike is usually defined as an organized effort by employees to refuse to work in order to gain concessions from the employer, but it's a different beast in this case. I don't know of any situations (restaurants, schools, etc.) where employees who are participating do not have the permission/blessing of their employers to be out, though perhaps there are some.

It's a different beast in this case because there are no concessions to be gained from employers, which is why the whole concept doesn't make much sense.

My daycare director clearly was not happy about the no shows today, but the choice is either make due or fire the people and I can see why she didn't want to fire them. It just puts the employers in a very bad spot.

A protest would be an organized march.

Anonymous wrote:A strike is an organized refusal or decision to not show up at work. How is this not a strike?

A strike is usually defined as an organized effort by employees to refuse to work in order to gain concessions from the employer, but it's a different beast in this case. I don't know of any situations (restaurants, schools, etc.) where employees who are participating do not have the permission/blessing of their employers to be out, though perhaps there are some.

I would be looking for another daycare. There is no justification for closing. I can't just bail on work if I want to participate in a political rally. I totally support the cause, but think this is a stupid way to make a point. Most immigrants are hourly employees without paid time off. Closing daycares could create financial hardship for the very people we are supposed to be supporting.

A strike is an organized refusal or decision to not show up at work. How is this not a strike?

Ours isn't closed, but several teachers who are immigrants are out and school is covering through subs. The teachers sent out an email to parents explaining why and giving a brief blurb to share with kids about it. That seemed like an appropriate way to handle it and we are fine with that (though I didn't see email till after dropoff and wish it had come earlier). Obviously would not be possible with small operation where all teachers were involved, though.

This isn't a strike, per se--it's just a protest intended to highlight where the immigrants are in your daily life and what life would be like without them. Unfortunately I agree that it's not super well thought out, though, because many immigrants, especially newer ones, are not in jobs where they can realistically participate. Curious to see what next month's "Day without a Woman" protest looks like since that's a group that is, generally, more empowered to take that time off.

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Anonymous wrote:If that is the case, I hope they are refunding your money for that day.

For real.

Then I'd seriously start looking for another daycare.

Yes, I pay them for a service, if they -by choice- decide to close for a reason not spelled out in advance such as weather, I would expect a refund. I have to report to work and by them closing I lose out on my pay if I have to stay home.

Really?! It's one damn day for them to engage in civil disobedience and stand up for themselves. If ours closes I am taking my kid to work to amplify the point. Yes, I do realize not everyone can do that and there will be some discomfort... but, THIS IS WHAT DEMOCRACY LOOKS LIKE.

This isn't civil disobedience. Civil disobedience is refusing to comply with laws as a peaceful form of protest. This is a strike that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. They are striking against their employers, who in most cases, are the very people that support them the most and pay their salaries (either directly with a nanny or indirectly through a daycare). So you've inconvenienced your supportive employer and I sincerely believe that no one in a position of any power or people who are genuinely anti-immigrant will much care. Well done.

I'm all for immigrants making waves, but this isn't the most well thought out plan I've ever seen. Maybe plan a march.

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Anonymous wrote:If that is the case, I hope they are refunding your money for that day.

For real.

Then I'd seriously start looking for another daycare.

Yes, I pay them for a service, if they -by choice- decide to close for a reason not spelled out in advance such as weather, I would expect a refund. I have to report to work and by them closing I lose out on my pay if I have to stay home.

Really?! It's one damn day for them to engage in civil disobedience and stand up for themselves. If ours closes I am taking my kid to work to amplify the point. Yes, I do realize not everyone can do that and there will be some discomfort... but, THIS IS WHAT DEMOCRACY LOOKS LIKE.

You are terribly mistaken if you think more than just a few work places will allow children to be there as a way to show what democracy looks like.