Anonymous
02/07/2017 13:53
Subject: Will DeVos' confirmation as Sec of Education increase applications to the top private schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No. None of the private schools in the top or middle tier are going to take these vouchers. #BelieveMe
Bullshit. It immediately stretches their financial aid. Even if an elite private only has a dozen low income kids, those kids are going to receive voucher checks for $1X,000 each. Solid $120,000-plus in free cash.
This is my thought too. If a school has a million dollars to award out in FA and some of their students now get vouchers and they don't have to dip in that pot to give those students money. I would think that means their million dollar financial aid budget can be used to offer some aid to middle class families who would not ordinarily qualify.
Anonymous
02/07/2017 13:50
Subject: Will DeVos' confirmation as Sec of Education increase applications to the top private schools?
Anonymous wrote:They will just raise tuition. Applications will stay the same. When the voucher program goes away, the schools will not decrease rates again and it's a win for them.
How do you know this? Private schools love to increase the number of their applications. Doing what you suggest would seem to fly in the face4 of that.
Anonymous
02/07/2017 13:48
Subject: Will DeVos' confirmation as Sec of Education increase applications to the top private schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is hard to say what she will or won't do because so far it doesn't appear that she has a clue what the job is. The biggest fall out will occur if she acts like Trump and just starts spouting policy and issuing regulations without process or thought. That could have immediate and serious repercussions that will have wealthy families fleeing the public system. But it really depends on what she actually does. Kids with special needs who don't have money for private services are in the most danger from her ignorance.
Certainly if she decides guns are allowed in public schools (and DC is not allowed by Congress to legislate that locally), then yes, you will see a TON of applications to private, and a huge increase in private tuition. And the thousands who don't get spots will move. Segregation in DC will become worse than it already is. The DC economy will tank. Crime will increase. Corruption in local government will increase. Private schools in DC will need heightened security and will start losing students to suburban private schools.
But maybe no one will notice.
Why do you think this? The DC economy has been strong for some time. It has one of the strongest property tax bases with plenty of strong middle, upper and wealthy tax payers. They also generate a lot of revenue from parking enforcement of all things. I read once that in and of itself generates millions per month. The budget has been balanced since Anthony Williams has been Mayor. Almost every public school will or has been renovated. On what are you basing these predictions? I doubt you live in DC. /s/ Longtime District resident and parent of public and private school students.
So how do you account for the schools with bed bugs and rodent problems? Let's not get hasty here - DC may be better than it was pre-Anthony Williams but it is far from a strong economy for all. People seem to forget that Ward 8 is a part of D.C.
Anonymous
02/07/2017 13:47
Subject: Will DeVos' confirmation as Sec of Education increase applications to the top private schools?
Vouchers will drive the cost of privates up like Federal Student Loans have driven up the cost of college.
Anonymous
02/07/2017 13:47
Subject: Will DeVos' confirmation as Sec of Education increase applications to the top private schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maybe, but if you think you will get it paid for by taxpayers, think again.
Who is expecting to get anything paid for by taxpayers? We can afford to send DC to a $40K private. I am simply asking is if there will be a larger pool of applicants now that some students will have vouchers (and conceivably able to afford private school).
We are big fans of public schools but might rethink our position depending on how this plays out. We can afford to go private.
We're in a similar position--we like our neighborhood public, where our kid is in early elementary. However, we're thinking about the long game (and what setting will best serve our kid in the future), so we applied to private next year. Also concerned about DeVos (we're in DC, where perhaps federal education policy could have more influence?). Getting accepted at one of our top choices would be bittersweet--there are lots of good folks, including friends, working on the neighborhood school, and we'd feel somewhat like we're leaving them adrift in the life raft if we jump aboard the private school boat now..
Anonymous
02/07/2017 13:45
Subject: Will DeVos' confirmation as Sec of Education increase applications to the top private schools?
Anonymous wrote:What if any effect do you all think it will have on the number of applications to private school? My DD is currently in public and the plan was to stay there though 8th grade and then apply to private school. Debating if we should jump for middle before whatever the fall out will be from DeVos' taking over the Dept of Education.
How much is DeVos's voucher supposed to be? It is a nation-wide fixed amount check or does it depend on what your home district receives if your child were a student there?
Anonymous
02/07/2017 13:43
Subject: Will DeVos' confirmation as Sec of Education increase applications to the top private schools?
Anonymous wrote:No. None of the private schools in the top or middle tier are going to take these vouchers. #BelieveMe
Bullshit. It immediately stretches their financial aid. Even if an elite private only has a dozen low income kids, those kids are going to receive voucher checks for $1X,000 each. Solid $120,000-plus in free cash.
Anonymous
02/07/2017 13:41
Subject: Will DeVos' confirmation as Sec of Education increase applications to the top private schools?
They will just raise tuition. Applications will stay the same. When the voucher program goes away, the schools will not decrease rates again and it's a win for them.
Anonymous
02/07/2017 13:41
Subject: Will DeVos' confirmation as Sec of Education increase applications to the top private schools?
question--- I know nothing about vouchers. If a family who can already afford private has a failing school in their neighborhood, can they take the voucher just to get 5K break on tuition? Makes a place like Capitol Hill more appealing.
Anonymous
02/07/2017 13:40
Subject: Will DeVos' confirmation as Sec of Education increase applications to the top private schools?
Anonymous wrote:It is hard to say what she will or won't do because so far it doesn't appear that she has a clue what the job is. The biggest fall out will occur if she acts like Trump and just starts spouting policy and issuing regulations without process or thought. That could have immediate and serious repercussions that will have wealthy families fleeing the public system. But it really depends on what she actually does. Kids with special needs who don't have money for private services are in the most danger from her ignorance.
Certainly if she decides guns are allowed in public schools (and DC is not allowed by Congress to legislate that locally), then yes, you will see a TON of applications to private, and a huge increase in private tuition. And the thousands who don't get spots will move. Segregation in DC will become worse than it already is. The DC economy will tank. Crime will increase. Corruption in local government will increase. Private schools in DC will need heightened security and will start losing students to suburban private schools.
But maybe no one will notice.
Why do you think this? The DC economy has been strong for some time. It has one of the strongest property tax bases with plenty of strong middle, upper and wealthy tax payers. They also generate a lot of revenue from parking enforcement of all things. I read once that in and of itself generates millions per month. The budget has been balanced since Anthony Williams has been Mayor. Almost every public school will or has been renovated. On what are you basing these predictions? I doubt you live in DC. /s/ Longtime District resident and parent of public and private school students.
Anonymous
02/07/2017 13:38
Subject: Will DeVos' confirmation as Sec of Education increase applications to the top private schools?
Anonymous wrote:It is hard to say what she will or won't do because so far it doesn't appear that she has a clue what the job is. The biggest fall out will occur if she acts like Trump and just starts spouting policy and issuing regulations without process or thought. That could have immediate and serious repercussions that will have wealthy families fleeing the public system. But it really depends on what she actually does. Kids with special needs who don't have money for private services are in the most danger from her ignorance.
Certainly if she decides guns are allowed in public schools (and DC is not allowed by Congress to legislate that locally), then yes, you will see a TON of applications to private, and a huge increase in private tuition. And the thousands who don't get spots will move. Segregation in DC will become worse than it already is. The DC economy will tank. Crime will increase. Corruption in local government will increase. Private schools in DC will need heightened security and will start losing students to suburban private schools.
But maybe no one will notice.
Sounds like the good ole (or not so good) Marion Barry days. *sigh*
Anonymous
02/07/2017 13:37
Subject: Will DeVos' confirmation as Sec of Education increase applications to the top private schools?
Anonymous wrote:Why do people think that getting in a school is easy? There are a lot of families willing to drop 40k to get there kids in nursery school.
I never said it was easy. What I asking is if it will become even more difficult?
Anonymous
02/07/2017 13:36
Subject: Will DeVos' confirmation as Sec of Education increase applications to the top private schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maybe, but if you think you will get it paid for by taxpayers, think again.
Who is expecting to get anything paid for by taxpayers? We can afford to send DC to a $40K private. I am simply asking is if there will be a larger pool of applicants now that some students will have vouchers (and conceivably able to afford private school).
We are big fans of public schools but might rethink our position depending on how this plays out. We can afford to go private.
Anonymous
02/07/2017 13:35
Subject: Will DeVos' confirmation as Sec of Education increase applications to the top private schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maybe, but if you think you will get it paid for by taxpayers, think again.
Not arguing for vouchers. But if there were vouchers, why wouldn't you be able to carry your $5000 or whatever they offer over to an elite private school?
Of course, it's quite possible everyone will just raise tuition by this amount. But in theory it might help a little.
The problem with the previous voucher program was that the amount was very small compared to independent school tuition so didn't make much of a dent. There were some parochial schools that benefitted. And I recall that Rock Creek International got in financial trouble because they accepted a lot of voucher students but it wasn't enough to fund operations.
I remember Rock Creek International! I didn't realize that their closure was in part to the number of voucher students they accepted...
Anonymous
02/07/2017 13:35
Subject: Re:Will DeVos' confirmation as Sec of Education increase applications to the top private schools?
Private school tuition is at least 25,000 per year, in the lower grades, and goes up from there. Often, that does not include the "extras" such as field trips, uniforms, charity contributions, ect. Vouchers will not help anyone who cannot currently afford private, at least in this area.