Anonymous
01/09/2017 10:30
Subject: Hogan Expanding State-Funded Scholarships to Private Schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where does the state get the money to fund these scholarships?
Taxes?
Okay....so as a homeowner in Montgomery County, now I'm paying for BOTH public schools AND contributing to a scholarship fund so that students can opt NOT to attend the public schools I'm paying for?
You don't get to choose where your tax money is spent. Not directly.
You already provide scholarship money for school, you live in a sanctuary city, remember? That means illegal immigrant children receive a scholarship education via your tax dollars and I am sure those little darlings will be the first to benefit with private school scholarships. See what you voted for all these years. LOL
Ummm....we are a sanctuary county. If people without papers are found, they are NOT turned over unless wanted for a serious crime. They can get driver's licenses etc without proper legal paperwork.
MoCo is not a sanctuary city/county. It turns over undocumented immigrants who are incarcerated as long as the Feds meet probable cause.
Anonymous
01/06/2017 11:09
Subject: Hogan Expanding State-Funded Scholarships to Private Schools
Anonymous wrote:You know who benefits from republican Hogan's program?
- poor minority children. The kids who benefit are not from rich families. They are overwhelmingly A-A or other racial minorities.
What all of these kids have in common is a dismal future if they are condemned to their failing local public schools.
At least this program gives some of these children a glimmer of hope at a better future.
Look, I wish there were no failing public schools in MD; but there are many such schools, and nothing will change that if we just keep repeating what we have always done.
Maryland is a populous state, and majority white. Therefore, it stands to reason, many poor white children will also benefit from scholarships to private schools. Not all non-white people are low income, and not all whites are wealthy.
Anonymous
01/06/2017 09:01
Subject: Hogan Expanding State-Funded Scholarships to Private Schools
You know who benefits from republican Hogan's program?
- poor minority children. The kids who benefit are not from rich families. They are overwhelmingly A-A or other racial minorities.
What all of these kids have in common is a dismal future if they are condemned to their failing local public schools.
At least this program gives some of these children a glimmer of hope at a better future.
Look, I wish there were no failing public schools in MD; but there are many such schools, and nothing will change that if we just keep repeating what we have always done.
- poor minority children. The kids who benefit are not from rich families. They are overwhelmingly A-A or other racial minorities.
What all of these kids have in common is a dismal future if they are condemned to their failing local public schools.
At least this program gives some of these children a glimmer of hope at a better future.
Look, I wish there were no failing public schools in MD; but there are many such schools, and nothing will change that if we just keep repeating what we have always done.
Anonymous
01/05/2017 21:56
Subject: Hogan Expanding State-Funded Scholarships to Private Schools
Anonymous wrote:
Why not improve the public schools in low income areas instead of selecting a small number of kids to go to private school? It's window dressing---it's the easy way out. Instead, we should demand that ALL public schools provide a high quality education.
That would be fine, too, except year after year it doesn't happen.
I don't think it's any coincidence that in Baltimore County the majority of the schools that lack AC are the ones with poorer/more minority children. No, it's not "all the rich kids have AC and none of the poor kids do" because they can't be that blatant. But it's pretty obvious that the areas with more political pull get the benefits first, and everyone else comes last.
Year after year, we pretend that we don't have schools with great test scores and great facilities just a few miles away from schools with poor test scores and poor facilities. We pretend it has absolutely nothing to do with wealthy single family homes providing the students for one school, and poorer apartments and single-head-of-household homes providing the students for another school. We pretend we're liberal and open hearted and the second someone suggests shifting boundaries to make the situations more equitable for the children we scream because Property Values! (And college. But I think the property values screams are louder.) We don't offer paths to let kids into public schools that would serve them perfectly, we force them to stay in their zoned schools. And we're ok with that. For whatever reasons. But the second someone comes in and offers what might be an escape hatch in the form of a voucher? Why, that's just wrong!
We've been contributing to the educational neglect of these kids for decades. Maybe it's time to try something else. Maybe this will motivate all of us to make sure that all of our kids have access to an appropriate education and a safe educational environment. But I expect many of us will just enjoy complaining bitterly about that mean old gov.
Anonymous
01/05/2017 19:18
Subject: Hogan Expanding State-Funded Scholarships to Private Schools
Anonymous wrote:Public schools aren't for free. Our taxes pay for them.
GOP'ers hate funding the common good. Anything they can do to harm public education is cannon.
Lastly, Montgomery county is not a city.
True. So self centered.
Anonymous
01/05/2017 19:16
Subject: Hogan Expanding State-Funded Scholarships to Private Schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where does the state get the money to fund these scholarships?
Taxes?
Okay....so as a homeowner in Montgomery County, now I'm paying for BOTH public schools AND contributing to a scholarship fund so that students can opt NOT to attend the public schools I'm paying for?
You don't get to choose where your tax money is spent. Not directly.
You already provide scholarship money for school, you live in a sanctuary city, remember? That means illegal immigrant children receive a scholarship education via your tax dollars and I am sure those little darlings will be the first to benefit with private school scholarships. See what you voted for all these years. LOL
MoCo is not a sanctuary city/county. It turns over undocumented immigrants who are incarcerated as long as the Feds meet probable cause.
I call BS, I live there and yes they are. Didn't they just spend close to 1 million in taxpayer dollars on an illegal immigration center to push through citizenship more quickly. Our tax dollars paid for that too, and we were not asked. Hence, term limits passed this year in the county. People are getting sick of this crap.
What are you talking about? County doesn't do citizenship. ? That's federal.
Anonymous
01/05/2017 14:49
Subject: Hogan Expanding State-Funded Scholarships to Private Schools
The Democrats angrily opposing this idea come out looking pretty bad, IMO. Why would you oppose giving lower income kids CHOICES?? If the private schools are as bad as the PP says ('subpar'), then the students can choose not to go there.
Where does it say that this program will be limited to parochial schools?
Where does it say that this program will be limited to parochial schools?
Anonymous
01/05/2017 14:48
Subject: Hogan Expanding State-Funded Scholarships to Private Schools
Anonymous wrote:
I call BS, I live there and yes they are. Didn't they just spend close to 1 million in taxpayer dollars on an illegal immigration center to push through citizenship more quickly. Our tax dollars paid for that too, and we were not asked. Hence, term limits passed this year in the county. People are getting sick of this crap.
I hadn't seen that story about the immigration center - is there a link?
Anonymous
01/05/2017 14:31
Subject: Hogan Expanding State-Funded Scholarships to Private Schools
Vouchers/scholarships are typically used to help struggling parochial schools stay afloat on our tax dollars. Republicans get to appear as if they care about poor kids by giving a handful the opportunity to attend (in my opinion subpar private school.
Anonymous
01/05/2017 13:57
Subject: Hogan Expanding State-Funded Scholarships to Private Schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where does the state get the money to fund these scholarships?
Taxes?
Okay....so as a homeowner in Montgomery County, now I'm paying for BOTH public schools AND contributing to a scholarship fund so that students can opt NOT to attend the public schools I'm paying for?
You don't get to choose where your tax money is spent. Not directly.
You already provide scholarship money for school, you live in a sanctuary city, remember? That means illegal immigrant children receive a scholarship education via your tax dollars and I am sure those little darlings will be the first to benefit with private school scholarships. See what you voted for all these years. LOL
Do you mean voting for Hogan? I thought Republicans don't normally like giving handouts. This seems like a decent handout from Hogan.
Plus, this would be for the whole state, not just MoCo. And, most of the kids getting the scholarship are white (not Latino, as you imply by your comment).
You don't know that most of there students would be white. Hogan has cut spending in programs so I am sure he will find the money for this program rather than increasing taxes. The question is why do we want to do this? Just another social handout, why aren't we focusing those funds on making the public schools work for these children? Now we want to put them in a situation where their self esteem may be attacked for not being able to keep up with the all the trappings that typically come with a private school environment.
I seriously doubt these scholarships would be used by kids trying to get into a $40,000 school.
Anonymous
01/05/2017 13:49
Subject: Hogan Expanding State-Funded Scholarships to Private Schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where does the state get the money to fund these scholarships?
Taxes?
Okay....so as a homeowner in Montgomery County, now I'm paying for BOTH public schools AND contributing to a scholarship fund so that students can opt NOT to attend the public schools I'm paying for?
You don't get to choose where your tax money is spent. Not directly.
You already provide scholarship money for school, you live in a sanctuary city, remember? That means illegal immigrant children receive a scholarship education via your tax dollars and I am sure those little darlings will be the first to benefit with private school scholarships. See what you voted for all these years. LOL
Do you mean voting for Hogan? I thought Republicans don't normally like giving handouts. This seems like a decent handout from Hogan.
Plus, this would be for the whole state, not just MoCo. And, most of the kids getting the scholarship are white (not Latino, as you imply by your comment).
You don't know that most of there students would be white. Hogan has cut spending in programs so I am sure he will find the money for this program rather than increasing taxes. The question is why do we want to do this? Just another social handout, why aren't we focusing those funds on making the public schools work for these children? Now we want to put them in a situation where their self esteem may be attacked for not being able to keep up with the all the trappings that typically come with a private school environment.
Anonymous
01/05/2017 13:45
Subject: Hogan Expanding State-Funded Scholarships to Private Schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hogan hates MoCo, so don't expect anything to trickle here.
He's a big Catholic, right? There's likely a connection.
He cut state funding to the universities and to public schools---including MoCo. It's not good, people.
Why not improve the public schools in low income areas instead of selecting a small number of kids to go to private school? It's window dressing---it's the easy way out. Instead, we should demand that ALL public schools provide a high quality education.
Because we've done this and it doesn't work! Maybe it's time to try something new? Let the lower income students who are more motivated attend private schools and see what happens.
MoCo already provides lower income students with free breakfast and lower cost lunch, offers Saturday School, buses kids who need special programs, etc. We spend SO much money per student already, and yet the lower income students still don't perform as well. The current system is not working, so time for a new approach.
Just, for the record, MCPS doesn't provide free lunch. That's a federal program. Busing for special needs students is also federally mandated.
Potatoes, potatoes …. federal funding is given to the school to provide those programs. The kids are still fed at school and it has increased substantially over the last decade. ESOL programs are through the roof. I just applied for a private school that stated on its summer reading list that the book must be read in English no matter what your first language is, why are we spending so much money on ESOL programs?
Anonymous
01/05/2017 13:42
Subject: Hogan Expanding State-Funded Scholarships to Private Schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where does the state get the money to fund these scholarships?
Taxes?
Okay....so as a homeowner in Montgomery County, now I'm paying for BOTH public schools AND contributing to a scholarship fund so that students can opt NOT to attend the public schools I'm paying for?
You don't get to choose where your tax money is spent. Not directly.
You already provide scholarship money for school, you live in a sanctuary city, remember? That means illegal immigrant children receive a scholarship education via your tax dollars and I am sure those little darlings will be the first to benefit with private school scholarships. See what you voted for all these years. LOL
MoCo is not a sanctuary city/county. It turns over undocumented immigrants who are incarcerated as long as the Feds meet probable cause.
I call BS, I live there and yes they are. Didn't they just spend close to 1 million in taxpayer dollars on an illegal immigration center to push through citizenship more quickly. Our tax dollars paid for that too, and we were not asked. Hence, term limits passed this year in the county. People are getting sick of this crap.
Anonymous
01/05/2017 13:37
Subject: Hogan Expanding State-Funded Scholarships to Private Schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hogan hates MoCo, so don't expect anything to trickle here.
He's a big Catholic, right? There's likely a connection.
He cut state funding to the universities and to public schools---including MoCo. It's not good, people.
Why not improve the public schools in low income areas instead of selecting a small number of kids to go to private school? It's window dressing---it's the easy way out. Instead, we should demand that ALL public schools provide a high quality education.
Because we've done this and it doesn't work! Maybe it's time to try something new? Let the lower income students who are more motivated attend private schools and see what happens.
MoCo already provides lower income students with free breakfast and lower cost lunch, offers Saturday School, buses kids who need special programs, etc. We spend SO much money per student already, and yet the lower income students still don't perform as well. The current system is not working, so time for a new approach.
Just, for the record, MCPS doesn't provide free lunch. That's a federal program. Busing for special needs students is also federally mandated.
Anonymous
01/05/2017 13:20
Subject: Hogan Expanding State-Funded Scholarships to Private Schools
Anonymous wrote:Hogan hates MoCo, so don't expect anything to trickle here.
He's a big Catholic, right? There's likely a connection.
He cut state funding to the universities and to public schools---including MoCo. It's not good, people.
Why not improve the public schools in low income areas instead of selecting a small number of kids to go to private school? It's window dressing---it's the easy way out. Instead, we should demand that ALL public schools provide a high quality education.
Because we've done this and it doesn't work! Maybe it's time to try something new? Let the lower income students who are more motivated attend private schools and see what happens.
MoCo already provides lower income students with free breakfast and lower cost lunch, offers Saturday School, buses kids who need special programs, etc. We spend SO much money per student already, and yet the lower income students still don't perform as well. The current system is not working, so time for a new approach.