Anonymous
Post 12/30/2016 16:16     Subject: Trump's worship of Putin

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:This is diplomacy and no worse than that sophomoric and amateurish Reset Button.


Obama has never engaged Russia as he should have. He has disregarded Putin and Russia and now with days left, is grasping at straws to seem like he's an engaged leader.

The whole Romney/the 80s called they want the foreign policy back blather was actually Obama's attitude-dismissive and ineffectual- for 8 years.


He's in the last part of a failed Presidency. Two horrible Secretaries of State and a huge blunder in ME policy.


Failed presidency = no. John Kerry was an excellent SoS.


How was he "excellent"?


Being a Diplomat (one that is serious about real diplomacy) is the most frustrating career anyone could have when you are dealing with massive egos and military might. In my opinion he has never wavered even though he was dealing with serious push back. If he had more time he would have had a lot more 'wins'. Less than 4 years is a very short time with all the global issues we've had since the 80's.
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2016 16:16     Subject: Trump's worship of Putin

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: Did Obama betray the US when he did nothing, zero, to deal with said "hacking?"


I thought he instituted sanctions following a report linking hacking to the Russians. Pretty sure this is true. So my answer is no, he is not a traitor.


Nothing in the said report links evidence to the Russians.

"Likewise, Robert M. Lee, a National Cybersecurity Fellow at New America and CEO and founder of cybersecurity company Dragos, published a thorough critique of the JAR, saying it “reads like a poorly done vendor intelligence report stringing together various aspects of attribution without evidence.”"
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2016 16:15     Subject: Trump's worship of Putin

What about this one:

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/347191326112112640?lang=en

From 2013:

Donald J. TrumpVerified account
?@realDonaldTrump
Do you think Putin will be going to The Miss Universe Pageant in November in Moscow - if so, will he become my new best friend?

I guess not then, but for sure now...

The more I read about Trump's love for Putin, the more I think Putin is going to take him on a wild ride.
He is way out of his league dealing with ex-KGB.

Is it unpatriotic to be amused by this?
Probably. But hey, I did not vote for him...so...


Anonymous
Post 12/30/2016 16:12     Subject: Trump's worship of Putin

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: Did Obama betray the US when he did nothing, zero, to deal with said "hacking?"


I thought he instituted sanctions following a report linking hacking to the Russians. Pretty sure this is true. So my answer is no, he is not a traitor.



There is no evidence in said report.
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2016 16:12     Subject: Trump's worship of Putin

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: Did Obama betray the US when he did nothing, zero, to deal with said "hacking?"


I thought he instituted sanctions following a report linking hacking to the Russians. Pretty sure this is true. So my answer is no, he is not a traitor.


He did nothing but an immature gesture which the Russians are laughing at. He's weak. Russians don't deal with weak people.
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2016 16:12     Subject: Trump's worship of Putin

Obama did nothing to sanction the Russians until it was too late, but Trump is the traitor. Logic FTW.
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2016 16:11     Subject: Trump's worship of Putin

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seems like a pretty solid move on Obama's part to institute sanctions. Now Trump will stand out as the Russian stooge he is as soon as he lifts them.


Too bad Obama didn't sanction Russia this summer when he gave a press conference and told us all he personally told Putin to "cut it out."

But that wouldn't have suited Obama's current kabuki theater. His political machinations are pathetic and transparent.


Too bad Putin didn't cut it out. Actually, I think that the closeness in time to Trump's inauguration is pretty smart. The Russian sanctions will be fresh in everyone's minds, and so will Trump's betrayal of the US when he lifts them.


Did Obama betray the US when he did nothing, zero, to deal with said "hacking?"


The paid CTR shills are just trying to push a bullshit narrative.
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2016 16:10     Subject: Trump's worship of Putin

Anonymous wrote: Did Obama betray the US when he did nothing, zero, to deal with said "hacking?"


I thought he instituted sanctions following a report linking hacking to the Russians. Pretty sure this is true. So my answer is no, he is not a traitor.
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2016 16:10     Subject: Trump's worship of Putin

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is diplomacy and no worse than that sophomoric and amateurish Reset Button.


Obama has never engaged Russia as he should have. He has disregarded Putin and Russia and now with days left, is grasping at straws to seem like he's an engaged leader.

The whole Romney/the 80s called they want the foreign policy back blather was actually Obama's attitude-dismissive and ineffectual- for 8 years.


He's in the last part of a failed Presidency. Two horrible Secretaries of State and a huge blunder in ME policy.


Failed presidency = no. John Kerry was an excellent SoS.


Failed Presentation Denny. Worse relations with Russia in decades, failed economy and first President since Hoover not to see 3% GDP growth, worse racial tension I've seen since the sixties. Obama's is a legacy of failure.

Kerry has accomplished as little as HRC. He's carrying on her failed policies. We haven't had a foreign policy win in at least a decade. The Russians saw our weakness with the SART treaty. They capitalized and became the big boy on the block leaving our limp-wristed President out as Putin and Turkey bring stability to the ME.

I'd say that's a failure
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2016 16:10     Subject: Trump's worship of Putin

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seems like a pretty solid move on Obama's part to institute sanctions. Now Trump will stand out as the Russian stooge he is as soon as he lifts them.


Too bad Obama didn't sanction Russia this summer when he gave a press conference and told us all he personally told Putin to "cut it out."

But that wouldn't have suited Obama's current kabuki theater. His political machinations are pathetic and transparent.


Too bad Putin didn't cut it out. Actually, I think that the closeness in time to Trump's inauguration is pretty smart. The Russian sanctions will be fresh in everyone's minds, and so will Trump's betrayal of the US when he lifts them.


I agree. This will look extremely unpatriotic but Trump supporters won't care. They think everything Trump says and does is great.
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2016 16:09     Subject: Trump's worship of Putin

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seems like a pretty solid move on Obama's part to institute sanctions. Now Trump will stand out as the Russian stooge he is as soon as he lifts them.


Too bad Obama didn't sanction Russia this summer when he gave a press conference and told us all he personally told Putin to "cut it out."

But that wouldn't have suited Obama's current kabuki theater. His political machinations are pathetic and transparent.


Too bad Putin didn't cut it out. Actually, I think that the closeness in time to Trump's inauguration is pretty smart. The Russian sanctions will be fresh in everyone's minds, and so will Trump's betrayal of the US when he lifts them.


Did Obama betray the US when he did nothing, zero, to deal with said "hacking?"
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2016 16:09     Subject: Trump's worship of Putin

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is diplomacy and no worse than that sophomoric and amateurish Reset Button.


Obama has never engaged Russia as he should have. He has disregarded Putin and Russia and now with days left, is grasping at straws to seem like he's an engaged leader.

The whole Romney/the 80s called they want the foreign policy back blather was actually Obama's attitude-dismissive and ineffectual- for 8 years.


He's in the last part of a failed Presidency. Two horrible Secretaries of State and a huge blunder in ME policy.


Failed presidency = no. John Kerry was an excellent SoS.


How was he "excellent"?
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2016 16:08     Subject: Trump's worship of Putin

Obama says he told Putin to ‘cut it out’ on Russia hacking
By LOUIS NELSON 12/16/16 03:08 PM EST Updated 12/16/16 04:24 PM EST
President Barack Obama said Friday that he told Russian President Vladimir Putin in September to “cut it out” in regard to allegations that his nation engaged in cyberattacks against the U.S. electoral process. Obama added that further hacking by Russia did not occur following Obama’s admonition.

Anonymous
Post 12/30/2016 16:06     Subject: Trump's worship of Putin

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seems like a pretty solid move on Obama's part to institute sanctions. Now Trump will stand out as the Russian stooge he is as soon as he lifts them.


Too bad Obama didn't sanction Russia this summer when he gave a press conference and told us all he personally told Putin to "cut it out."

But that wouldn't have suited Obama's current kabuki theater. His political machinations are pathetic and transparent.


Too bad Putin didn't cut it out. Actually, I think that the closeness in time to Trump's inauguration is pretty smart. The Russian sanctions will be fresh in everyone's minds, and so will Trump's betrayal of the US when he lifts them.
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2016 16:03     Subject: Trump's worship of Putin

Anonymous wrote:Seems like a pretty solid move on Obama's part to institute sanctions. Now Trump will stand out as the Russian stooge he is as soon as he lifts them.


Too bad Obama didn't sanction Russia this summer when he gave a press conference and told us all he personally told Putin to "cut it out."

But that wouldn't have suited Obama's current kabuki theater. His political machinations are pathetic and transparent.