Anonymous
Post 12/29/2016 15:40     Subject: Obama Admin under pressure to provide "hacking" proof
Anonymous wrote:The Russian Troll Army is in full social media attack mode today. It's surprising that so many of Trump's chumps are taking the bait.



Apparently the owner of this site has joined the "Russian Troll Army" according to your post. He even posted a link that shows no event of Russian involvement and you completely ignore it.
jsteele
Post 12/29/2016 15:39     Subject: Obama Admin under pressure to provide "hacking" proof
Anonymous wrote:So is there evidence or not?


The report today contained allegations and assertions but no evidence. I understand that a more detailed report (it would be hard to be less detailed) will be released in a few weeks.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2016 15:35     Subject: Obama Admin under pressure to provide "hacking" proof
The Russian Troll Army is in full social media attack mode today. It's surprising that so many of Trump's chumps are taking the bait.

Anonymous
Post 12/29/2016 15:32     Subject: Obama Admin under pressure to provide "hacking" proof
So is there evidence or not?
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2016 15:31     Subject: Obama Admin under pressure to provide "hacking" proof
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"Private security firms have provided more detailed forensic analysis linking two well-known Russian intelligence groups to the data breach at the DNC.

Beyond that, the evidence of Russian interference is compelling, though circumstantial."

So the Russians hacked the DNC, not the US election.

John Podesta got phished. He is apparently an idiot.


The hack wasn't just a technological hack. The Russians didn't even need to digitally access or manipulate individual voting machines. What they did was social engineering, to use digital media to manipulate voter sentiment. The Russians have tremendous expertise in this area, they have been world class experts in the covert propaganda business for 70+ years, they quite successfully did it in Crimea, Eastern Ukraine and several other places in recent years.


That's psyops or propaganda, not computer hacking. Two entirely different things. It seems to have worked well on the Democrat Party, since it's Democrats who are doing the most to try to undermine Trump's presidency. I don't really see the russians doing anything at all.


LOL! Sorry, it's not "psyops" and "propaganda" to tell the truth about Trump's pussy grabbing and his conflicts of interest and his nutjob twitter rants and everything else. This is what Trump is actually saying and doing.
jsteele
Post 12/29/2016 15:14     Subject: Re:Obama Admin under pressure to provide "hacking" proof
Another update, IP addresses and some hostnames were provided in a separate file that I don't believe was linked in the actual report:

https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/JAR-16-20296.csv

The rest of my criticism stand. The report is useless.
jsteele
Post 12/29/2016 15:11     Subject: Re:Obama Admin under pressure to provide "hacking" proof
jsteele wrote:Here is the joint report that details the Russian hacking:

https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/JAR_16-20296.pdf


Now that I've read the report, it is completely useless and provides no information of value. The report urges network administrators to check their logs for certain IP addresses, but then doesn't provide any addresses. The report is basically a fancy graphic and a list of best practices. It does nothing to confirm the hackers were Russian.

jsteele
Post 12/29/2016 15:04     Subject: Re:Obama Admin under pressure to provide "hacking" proof
Here is the joint report that details the Russian hacking:

https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/JAR_16-20296.pdf
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2016 15:01     Subject: Obama Admin under pressure to provide "hacking" proof
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cruh2p_Wh_4


Obama on video saying no way can ANYONE hack our elections.

Ho him.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2016 14:50     Subject: Obama Admin under pressure to provide "hacking" proof
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"Private security firms have provided more detailed forensic analysis linking two well-known Russian intelligence groups to the data breach at the DNC.

Beyond that, the evidence of Russian interference is compelling, though circumstantial."

So the Russians hacked the DNC, not the US election.

John Podesta got phished. He is apparently an idiot.


The hack wasn't just a technological hack. The Russians didn't even need to digitally access or manipulate individual voting machines. What they did was social engineering, to use digital media to manipulate voter sentiment. The Russians have tremendous expertise in this area, they have been world class experts in the covert propaganda business for 70+ years, they quite successfully did it in Crimea, Eastern Ukraine and several other places in recent years.


That's psyops or propaganda, not computer hacking. Two entirely different things. It seems to have worked well on the Democrat Party, since it's Democrats who are doing the most to try to undermine Trump's presidency. I don't really see the russians doing anything at all.


Well the CIA and NSA and FBI do see the Russians doing it, so why would anyone care what you think?
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2016 14:47     Subject: Obama Admin under pressure to provide "hacking" proof
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:35 Russians just got expelled from the US in connection to the hacking incidents. Someone's got proof.


Obama's gov't. doesn't need proof of any kind to expel foreign nationals. More dog and pony show from Obama on his way out the door.


So let's see it!
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2016 14:45     Subject: Obama Admin under pressure to provide "hacking" proof
Anonymous wrote:35 Russians just got expelled from the US in connection to the hacking incidents. Someone's got proof.


Obama's gov't. doesn't need proof of any kind to expel foreign nationals. More dog and pony show from Obama on his way out the door.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2016 14:43     Subject: Obama Admin under pressure to provide "hacking" proof
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"Private security firms have provided more detailed forensic analysis linking two well-known Russian intelligence groups to the data breach at the DNC.

Beyond that, the evidence of Russian interference is compelling, though circumstantial."

So the Russians hacked the DNC, not the US election.

John Podesta got phished. He is apparently an idiot.


The hack wasn't just a technological hack. The Russians didn't even need to digitally access or manipulate individual voting machines. What they did was social engineering, to use digital media to manipulate voter sentiment. The Russians have tremendous expertise in this area, they have been world class experts in the covert propaganda business for 70+ years, they quite successfully did it in Crimea, Eastern Ukraine and several other places in recent years.


That's psyops or propaganda, not computer hacking. Two entirely different things. It seems to have worked well on the Democrat Party, since it's Democrats who are doing the most to try to undermine Trump's presidency. I don't really see the russians doing anything at all.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2016 14:42     Subject: Obama Admin under pressure to provide "hacking" proof
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"The administration up until now has provided little documentation to back up its official October assessment that the Russian government was attempting to interfere in the U.S. election.

Nor has it corroborated subsequent leaks from anonymous officials contending that the CIA believes the campaign was an attempt by Russian President Vladimir Putin to ensure Donald Trump’s victory."


This is bullshit, and repeating it over and over again does not make it any more true.

You can see the evidence yourself. It has been publicized by three private companies that investigated the DNC hack.


The quote is from the link provided. If you think The Hill is lying perhaps you should read the article and provide the proof to them so they can see it.

What firms are you citing? do you have links you can post here?


I have posted the same information no fewer than five times on DCUM. This is easily obtainable information. Just google "how we know it was the russians".


But the burden of absolute proof is on our gov/Obama admin.


There is no such thing as a "burden of absolute proof". Honestly, is the DCUM community dumber than it used to be?
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2016 14:42     Subject: Obama Admin under pressure to provide "hacking" proof
Anonymous wrote:"Private security firms have provided more detailed forensic analysis linking two well-known Russian intelligence groups to the data breach at the DNC.

Beyond that, the evidence of Russian interference is compelling, though circumstantial."

So the Russians hacked the DNC, not the US election.

John Podesta got phished. He is apparently an idiot.


Actually the private security firms provided no direct link whatsoever to Cozy Bear and Sleepy Bear or Yogi Bear or whatever they're called.

They simply opined that some of the indicators were consistent with those Russian hacking groups. I guess the notion that someone else could have used similar software didn't occur to these forensics guys.