Anonymous
Post 12/03/2016 13:40     Subject: My daughter thinks she's good at a sport but she's not
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe you need to wake up, OP.

Small colleges need athletes too. Your daughter may play well enough for them. She doesn't need to be an elite athlete.

I have no idea what your definition of an overpriced college no one has heard of is, but I think I went to one. I went on to an Ivy League law school and a law firm partnership.

Please open your eyes. And even if your daughter is horrible, why would you get off on convincing her of that fact?


OMG you are missing the point.

OP is saying that the only recruiters who say that her daughter has a chance are from super expensive private schools with no name recognition. We are not talking about privates like Cornell, we're talking about small private liberal arts colleges where tuition can be close to 50K a year. Unless you're very very wealthy, it makes a big difference if the kid goes to a good state school with a solid reputation (and no chance of making the team) as opposed to paying through the nose for a small private with no name recognition and a chance to ride the bench on their team.


OMG the horror of going to an elite liberal arts college and having a well-rounded resume including a team sport. Gasp!


Can you read? Not ELITE liberal arts colleges--OP is not talking about Bowdoin and Williams, FFS.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2016 13:22     Subject: My daughter thinks she's good at a sport but she's not
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Your post is all over the place and hard to understand. Are you talking Division II or III? Why are coaches contacting her and telling her to come to their school unless they want her on their team?


DIII. Tiny colleges. Expensive, underfunded. Not coaches, these are admissions recruiters sent out to boost applications. They will tell kids WHATEVER they want to hear.


What is the sport? And is she a senior or only a junior? If she is only a junior, one way to help her is to have her go to a recruiting camp or showcase sponsored by the school. She can go and show her stuff and see first hand what her competition is. If the coaches are interested in her, they will make that clear. It could be a painful wakeup call, but at least they will be delivering the message and not you.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2016 13:12     Subject: My daughter thinks she's good at a sport but she's not
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe you need to wake up, OP.

Small colleges need athletes too. Your daughter may play well enough for them. She doesn't need to be an elite athlete.

I have no idea what your definition of an overpriced college no one has heard of is, but I think I went to one. I went on to an Ivy League law school and a law firm partnership.

Please open your eyes. And even if your daughter is horrible, why would you get off on convincing her of that fact?


OMG you are missing the point.

OP is saying that the only recruiters who say that her daughter has a chance are from super expensive private schools with no name recognition. We are not talking about privates like Cornell, we're talking about small private liberal arts colleges where tuition can be close to 50K a year. Unless you're very very wealthy, it makes a big difference if the kid goes to a good state school with a solid reputation (and no chance of making the team) as opposed to paying through the nose for a small private with no name recognition and a chance to ride the bench on their team.


Those small no-name privatesgive enormous amounts of merit aid, and for many kids a lac with sports to keep them healthy and engaged can be a better choice.

Let her look widely, and apply widely, but set your financial parameters early. Within that, it should be her choice.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2016 13:05     Subject: Re:My daughter thinks she's good at a sport but she's not
If she loves the sport but is bad... Have you ever had her go to clinics or workshops? If not, why not?
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2016 12:55     Subject: My daughter thinks she's good at a sport but she's not
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe you need to wake up, OP.

Small colleges need athletes too. Your daughter may play well enough for them. She doesn't need to be an elite athlete.

I have no idea what your definition of an overpriced college no one has heard of is, but I think I went to one. I went on to an Ivy League law school and a law firm partnership.

Please open your eyes. And even if your daughter is horrible, why would you get off on convincing her of that fact?


OMG you are missing the point.

OP is saying that the only recruiters who say that her daughter has a chance are from super expensive private schools with no name recognition. We are not talking about privates like Cornell, we're talking about small private liberal arts colleges where tuition can be close to 50K a year. Unless you're very very wealthy, it makes a big difference if the kid goes to a good state school with a solid reputation (and no chance of making the team) as opposed to paying through the nose for a small private with no name recognition and a chance to ride the bench on their team.


OMG the horror of going to an elite liberal arts college and having a well-rounded resume including a team sport. Gasp!
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2016 12:21     Subject: Re:My daughter thinks she's good at a sport but she's not
Anonymous wrote:You sound horrible. I played in the school band all the way through high school and even a few years in college. I sucked and knew it but I enjoyed music and being a part of an ensemble. Where is the enjoyment factor here? Other lessons kids learn in sports? You need to detach your discussion of what you are able to afford for college from her ability to play her sport. That's her call.


This! I played a sport all four years in college that I was terrible at. I enjoyed practice and only played in two games the whole four years. However, I loved the experience, loved the team, and got an education. As an adult, I continue to play the sport and get exercise and enjoyment. Some people play sports for pleasure and entertainment! It's certainly better for you than sitting in front of the TV.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2016 11:32     Subject: Re:My daughter thinks she's good at a sport but she's not
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At D3 schools everyone makes the team and practices with the team. Not everyone gets to play games, but everyone makes the team.


That's bullshit. I know plenty kids got cut from my DIII team and some who were on the team previously. You have no idea what you are talking about. I am sure it is different at every school and even between sports.


My brother was promised a spot on the soccer team of a D3 college. He showed up excited to play. He then found out he was third string goalie behind a sophomore and another freshman. They wanted him to practice for 3-4 years to maybe get a chance to play. He didn't get in any games. He quit the team a month into school.

He chose the d3 over Georgetown solely to play soccer.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2016 11:29     Subject: Re:My daughter thinks she's good at a sport but she's not
Anonymous wrote:Your job is to support her and let her explore life. She doesn't have to be good to give it a shot. Her skill is irrelevant here. If she likes sports she should play for as long as she can. Eventually if what you say is true, she will find another passion.


Yes, she can go play intramurals at a reasonably priced college with name recognition. Not some nearly bankrupt d3 college nobody has ever heard of that probably won't exist in 10 years.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2016 11:27     Subject: Re:My daughter thinks she's good at a sport but she's not
Anonymous wrote:At D3 schools everyone makes the team and practices with the team. Not everyone gets to play games, but everyone makes the team.


That's bullshit. I know plenty kids got cut from my DIII team and some who were on the team previously. You have no idea what you are talking about. I am sure it is different at every school and even between sports.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2016 11:26     Subject: My daughter thinks she's good at a sport but she's not
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You can't tell her. She won't believe you anyway. Tell her how much you're planning to give per year or whatever the parameters are for where she can apply and let her try out for whatever team at whatever school she winds up at.

She's NOT going to believe you. If you tell her she can't try, she will simply believe for the rest of her life she was awesome but her mother wouldn't let her realize her dreams.


This.

You can play a sport at the college level; it just may not be one that's highly competitive in the rankings or give you a scholarship.

You can get a good education at a college that "no one has heard of." She can be a mediocre/awful soccer/lacrosse/field hockey/soft ball/tennis player and still get a good education. If she loves a sport, it will help her find her niche.


Both of these. She might have fun at the sport in college, not go anywhere else with it, and get a scholarship. As long as she works hard at her college classes and picks a good major, what's the problem?


D3 colleges don't give athletic scholarships. Stop talking out of your ass.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2016 11:21     Subject: My daughter thinks she's good at a sport but she's not
She'd be required to take out serious loans. It's D3. I'm not being an asshole, she only made the team because she's a senior and the coach is too nice to cut girls.

She's attempting to make a highly irrational decision fueled by her desire to continue playing a sport SHE'S NOT GOOD AT.

We're not rich. This college has no name value. Minimal employment recruiting. I could go on and on.

The bastard recruiters manipulated a kid planting these seeds in her head.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2016 11:16     Subject: My daughter thinks she's good at a sport but she's not
Anonymous wrote:Your post is all over the place and hard to understand. Are you talking Division II or III? Why are coaches contacting her and telling her to come to their school unless they want her on their team?


DIII. Tiny colleges. Expensive, underfunded. Not coaches, these are admissions recruiters sent out to boost applications. They will tell kids WHATEVER they want to hear.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2016 11:06     Subject: Re:My daughter thinks she's good at a sport but she's not
Anonymous wrote:Your job is to support her and let her explore life. She doesn't have to be good to give it a shot. Her skill is irrelevant here. If she likes sports she should play for as long as she can. Eventually if what you say is true, she will find another passion.

Also forgot to add that you are not required to pay if she chooses to go to one of these schools. I she is very passionate about it she can make her own dreams come true.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2016 11:02     Subject: Re:My daughter thinks she's good at a sport but she's not
Your job is to support her and let her explore life. She doesn't have to be good to give it a shot. Her skill is irrelevant here. If she likes sports she should play for as long as she can. Eventually if what you say is true, she will find another passion.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2016 10:57     Subject: My daughter thinks she's good at a sport but she's not
Anonymous wrote:Maybe you need to wake up, OP.

Small colleges need athletes too. Your daughter may play well enough for them. She doesn't need to be an elite athlete.

I have no idea what your definition of an overpriced college no one has heard of is, but I think I went to one. I went on to an Ivy League law school and a law firm partnership.

Please open your eyes. And even if your daughter is horrible, why would you get off on convincing her of that fact?


OMG you are missing the point.

OP is saying that the only recruiters who say that her daughter has a chance are from super expensive private schools with no name recognition. We are not talking about privates like Cornell, we're talking about small private liberal arts colleges where tuition can be close to 50K a year. Unless you're very very wealthy, it makes a big difference if the kid goes to a good state school with a solid reputation (and no chance of making the team) as opposed to paying through the nose for a small private with no name recognition and a chance to ride the bench on their team.