Anonymous
11/23/2016 09:26
Subject: This is the REAL reason DCUM is in a frenzy
Anonymous wrote:Here we go again. The genius Republicans will outsource government work to private contractors who make nearly twice as much to dong the same job. All in the name of saving money and socking it to those lazy government workers.
+1 Great for us, though. We are private contractors.
Anonymous
11/23/2016 09:20
Subject: This is the REAL reason DCUM is in a frenzy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/11/21/trump-republicans-plan-to-target-government-workers-benefits-and-job-security/
"President-elect Donald Trump and the Republican-controlled Congress are drawing up plans to take on the government bureaucracy they have long railed against, by eroding job protections and grinding down benefits that federal workers have received for a generation. Hiring freezes, an end to automatic raises, a green light to fire poor performers, a ban on union business on the government’s dime and less generous pensions — these are the contours of the blueprint emerging under Republican control of Washington in January. "
Welcome to the world that the private sector has been living in for years now.
Here's what I don't understand. The world that the private sector has been living in for years has been one that is basically raping the working people while the corporate overlords line their pockets.
The working people would be much better off with job protections and pensions that federal employees enjoy. (But let's not pretend that the job protections and pensions that they enjoy haven't also been eroded--they certainly have. Federal retirement benefits are nothing like they used to be.)
So somehow the questions are not: Why doesn't the private sector offer benefits that are similar to those of federal employees? Why doesn't Congress push to protect their constituents like they protect themselves and their congressional employees?
Instead the question is: Why don't federal employees suffer like the rest of us?
What we have here is a circular firing squad. Rather than turning our weapons on corporations and business owners, we turn the weapons on each other. Misery loves company I suppose.
Smartest comment on this post. Thank you.
Anonymous
11/23/2016 09:19
Subject: This is the REAL reason DCUM is in a frenzy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here we go again. The genius Republicans will outsource government work to private contractors who make nearly twice as much to dong the same job. All in the name of saving money and socking it to those lazy government workers.
This can't be said too often.
+1,000,000
Anonymous
11/23/2016 09:19
Subject: This is the REAL reason DCUM is in a frenzy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here we go again. The genius Republicans will outsource government work to private contractors who make nearly twice as much to dong the same job. All in the name of saving money and socking it to those lazy government workers.
You've got to crack down on the contractors, too. There is plenty of work that employees could do that they contract out. See how much more work gets done - with fewer staff - when they actually have to show up at the office. No more running personal errands on the taxpayers' dime.
Hope you don't mind waiting extra long for your tax refund.
Not if it means less money is being wastes by the deadwood.
Your inability to read is impressive.
Nope....Phi Bet English major. And we won't be waiting extra long for a refund (what refund??) because people will actually be doing a full day's work, rather than laze around the pool and go to the movies on telework days. They'll instead be at their desk, processing refunds.
We've been waiting 10 months for our (very large) refund, which was stolen last January by someone who submitted our returns after stealing our information. You think the IRS having fewer people working on returns is going to speed up that process? Are you going to be there with a whip to make sure they work faster?
I've been employed in private business and at the fed and there are lazy and hardworking people in both worlds. And even if you cut out the "dead wood" in federal employment- those people will just get jobs in private businesses, taking their work ethic with them. Or if they can't find a job, they'll go on the federal dole, so you'll be paying for them anyway.
Anonymous
11/23/2016 09:11
Subject: This is the REAL reason DCUM is in a frenzy
Anonymous wrote:The reality is most federal workers are underpaid and work really hard. Many, if not most, could make more money in the private sector, especially the most highly skilled. The government's draw is public service and decent benefits. Sure, you could outsource the work that needs to get done, but the private sector overcharges the government and has less oversight.
Everyone I know who left private industry got a nice pay RAISE. it's true that the ones at the very top could earn more elsewhere, but for those in the mid-range, their compensation is higher.....and with much better benefits. (A friend of mine just got hired - after two years of trying to get in - and told me she had an increase of 15%. I believe she's a GS 14.)
Anonymous
11/23/2016 09:11
Subject: This is the REAL reason DCUM is in a frenzy
Anonymous wrote:Here we go again. The genius Republicans will outsource government work to private contractors who make nearly twice as much to dong the same job. All in the name of saving money and socking it to those lazy government workers.
This can't be said too often.
Anonymous
11/23/2016 09:10
Subject: This is the REAL reason DCUM is in a frenzy
Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/11/21/trump-republicans-plan-to-target-government-workers-benefits-and-job-security/
"President-elect Donald Trump and the Republican-controlled Congress are drawing up plans to take on the government bureaucracy they have long railed against, by eroding job protections and grinding down benefits that federal workers have received for a generation. Hiring freezes, an end to automatic raises, a green light to fire poor performers, a ban on union business on the government’s dime and less generous pensions — these are the contours of the blueprint emerging under Republican control of Washington in January. "
Welcome to the world that the private sector has been living in for years now.
Here's what I don't understand. The world that the private sector has been living in for years has been one that is basically raping the working people while the corporate overlords line their pockets.
The working people would be much better off with job protections and pensions that federal employees enjoy. (But let's not pretend that the job protections and pensions that they enjoy haven't also been eroded--they certainly have. Federal retirement benefits are nothing like they used to be.)
So somehow the questions are not: Why doesn't the private sector offer benefits that are similar to those of federal employees? Why doesn't Congress push to protect their constituents like they protect themselves and their congressional employees?
Instead the question is: Why don't federal employees suffer like the rest of us?
What we have here is a circular firing squad. Rather than turning our weapons on corporations and business owners, we turn the weapons on each other. Misery loves company I suppose.
Anonymous
11/23/2016 09:05
Subject: This is the REAL reason DCUM is in a frenzy
The reality is most federal workers are underpaid and work really hard. Many, if not most, could make more money in the private sector, especially the most highly skilled. The government's draw is public service and decent benefits. Sure, you could outsource the work that needs to get done, but the private sector overcharges the government and has less oversight.
Anonymous
11/23/2016 09:05
Subject: This is the REAL reason DCUM is in a frenzy
Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/11/21/trump-republicans-plan-to-target-government-workers-benefits-and-job-security/
"President-elect Donald Trump and the Republican-controlled Congress are drawing up plans to take on the government bureaucracy they have long railed against, by eroding job protections and grinding down benefits that federal workers have received for a generation. Hiring freezes, an end to automatic raises, a green light to fire poor performers, a ban on union business on the government’s dime and less generous pensions — these are the contours of the blueprint emerging under Republican control of Washington in January. "
Welcome to the world that the private sector has been living in for years now.
If we were in a frenzy about this, we would have heard about this and discussed it.
But if this is your big hope, prepare for disappointment. Every time Republicans "take on the bureaucracy", they end up spending more money.
Anonymous
11/23/2016 09:05
Subject: This is the REAL reason DCUM is in a frenzy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The sock puppeting on this thread is impressive.
How do you know?
PP can't believe this many people don't agree with him. (Full disclosure: I posted once already in this thread!)
Anonymous
11/23/2016 09:04
Subject: This is the REAL reason DCUM is in a frenzy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The sock puppeting on this thread is impressive.
How do you know?
PP meant to say, "how can you tell?"
Yeah, I'm the PP. What makes you think it's sock puppeting? Just because more than one person shares the same opinion?
Anonymous
11/23/2016 09:03
Subject: This is the REAL reason DCUM is in a frenzy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here we go again. The genius Republicans will outsource government work to private contractors who make nearly twice as much to dong the same job. All in the name of saving money and socking it to those lazy government workers.
You've got to crack down on the contractors, too. There is plenty of work that employees could do that they contract out. See how much more work gets done - with fewer staff - when they actually have to show up at the office. No more running personal errands on the taxpayers' dime.
Hope you don't mind waiting extra long for your tax refund.
Not if it means less money is being wastes by the deadwood.
Your inability to read is impressive.
Nope....Phi Bet English major. And we won't be waiting extra long for a refund (what refund??) because people will actually be doing a full day's work, rather than laze around the pool and go to the movies on telework days. They'll instead be at their desk, processing refunds.
Anonymous
11/23/2016 09:03
Subject: This is the REAL reason DCUM is in a frenzy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The sock puppeting on this thread is impressive.
How do you know?
PP meant to say, "how can you tell?"
Anonymous
11/23/2016 09:00
Subject: This is the REAL reason DCUM is in a frenzy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here we go again. The genius Republicans will outsource government work to private contractors who make nearly twice as much to dong the same job. All in the name of saving money and socking it to those lazy government workers.
You've got to crack down on the contractors, too. There is plenty of work that employees could do that they contract out. See how much more work gets done - with fewer staff - when they actually have to show up at the office. No more running personal errands on the taxpayers' dime.
Hope you don't mind waiting extra long for your tax refund.
Not if it means less money is being wastes by the deadwood.
Your inability to read is impressive.
Anonymous
11/23/2016 09:00
Subject: This is the REAL reason DCUM is in a frenzy
Anonymous wrote:The sock puppeting on this thread is impressive.
How do you know?